To those that used to shop at Walmart, why have you stopped?

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: MX2times
I shop wherever my buck gets stretched the farthest...period.

Clearly you don't shop at WalMart, then. :thumbsup:
Not true. Sometimes Walmart is the cheapest, sometimes it isnt. I try to pay attention and do research before making purchases.
 

AnonymouseUser

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Originally posted by: MX2times
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: MX2times
I shop wherever my buck gets stretched the farthest...period.

Clearly you don't shop at WalMart, then. :thumbsup:
Not true. Sometimes Walmart is the cheapest, sometimes it isnt. I try to pay attention and do research before making purchases.

Their products are always the cheapest, though, despite the price. Cheapest = more expensive (in the long run) in my book.
 

myusername

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Originally posted by: EatSpam
I only buy their "Made in USA" stuff, like cleaning supplies and OTC drugs. All their other stuff is of poor quality and/or Made in China.

You do realize that this label means absolutely nothing about where the product was made, and only has a strong correlation to where the label was applied, right?

I used to do all my shopping at walmart (Okay, not clothes, or electronics, but food and household goods, and auto, and random "I need something at 2 in the morning" items), but:

-30 registers with 3 cashiers, one of which is changing out, and a 20 minute line at the 2 that are open.

-Corporate policy of relying on government welfare to supplement payroll

-Corporate policy of strong-arming suppliers

-Corporate policy of abandoning old buildings unusable by anyone else and constructing new ones across the street

-The cheapest products available, including cheapest quality. This also goes back to leveraging. I actually had to stop in for an emergency socket set at 11PM 200 miles from home when my vehicle puked tranny fluid all over the highway. I saw a 5 quart container of mobil1 and HAD to pick it up for $20 .. while walking the 3 miles back to the register, I started thinking of companies like RCA and Kohler that provide the same-branded product with inferior quality to walmart (see previous threads this forum) and I realized that just because it was Mobil1 didn't mean that I could trust it was the same stuff from the auto parts store for $2 more a quart. I left it on a aisle display with 1.5 gallon containers of generic branded fruit juice.

I would complain about killing mom and pop, because I think it's disturbing and depressing, but let's face it - any megastore, including online (anyone ever shop at that newegg place?) kills mom and pop, and it's a one way street .. so it's not really a valid complaint in this situation, imo
 

TMPadmin

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Originally posted by: ajpa123
I stopped going when I heard they were changing the name to ChinaMart.... j/k

I have memberships to BJ's, Sam's, Restaurant places, etc.. so i don't go to any B&M Walmart Stores (although Sam's is Walmart).

It sucks how Walmart can dictate what their suppliers produce and how much they will pay for it.

It's funny how in my tiny state, one supermarket chain, Stop and Shop, is buying up lots of prime land and occupied business real estate (even at a premium), just to stop walmart from sprouting up. Chinamart is a PITA for many peeps.

I'm not disputing your quote just stating something. How many shop at Stop and Shop, Tops, Giant, a a few others I don't remember. Do you know these are owned by Ahold? Ahold is a company based in Holland? Would you rather your money go there (anywhere out of the USA) or keep it here? Just another point to ponder.

www.ahold.com
www.aholdusa.com
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: MX2times
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: MX2times
I shop wherever my buck gets stretched the farthest...period.

Clearly you don't shop at WalMart, then. :thumbsup:
Not true. Sometimes Walmart is the cheapest, sometimes it isnt. I try to pay attention and do research before making purchases.

Their products are always the cheapest, though, despite the price. Cheapest = more expensive (in the long run) in my book.

Just because Walmart is Walmart, how does the exact same product from the exact same manufacturer become degraded quality just because its at Walmart:confused:

For instance...

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=1929793

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/re...ding=UTF8&frombrowse=1&asin=B000062XQ8

I use Target against Walmart because those are the two stores nearest me.
 

myusername

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Originally posted by: MX2times
Just because Walmart is Walmart, how does the exact same product from the exact same manufacturer become degraded quality just because its at Walmart:confused:

Because it's not the same product.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: myusername
Originally posted by: MX2times
Just because Walmart is Walmart, how does the exact same product from the exact same manufacturer become degraded quality just because its at Walmart:confused:

Because it's not the same product.

:roll:

I'll pick up a tin foil hat for you next time I am at Walmart.
 

artikk

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Originally posted by: myusername
Originally posted by: MX2times
Just because Walmart is Walmart, how does the exact same product from the exact same manufacturer become degraded quality just because its at Walmart:confused:

Because it's not the same product.

It's the same product, different retailer.
 

mwtgg

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Originally posted by: myusername
Originally posted by: MX2times
Just because Walmart is Walmart, how does the exact same product from the exact same manufacturer become degraded quality just because its at Walmart:confused:

Because it's not the same product.

Wow...

Would you like to supply a source to back that up or would you like me to keep assuming where you're getting this information from?
 

TMPadmin

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Originally posted by: myusername
Originally posted by: MX2times
Just because Walmart is Walmart, how does the exact same product from the exact same manufacturer become degraded quality just because its at Walmart:confused:

Because it's not the same product.

Now that is not an intelligent argument. Please show us how those products differ.
 

jtvang125

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Originally posted by: OdiN
I never shop there unless I absoltely have to. I would rather shop at Target.

Here are the reasons:

1. The stores are very dirty and horribly kept. Crap is all over the place...people treat all the crap like crap and the employees don't clean it up or put it back where it belongs.

2. Mexicans. Yeah..that's the only people that shop there (at least where I live) and it's annoying as hell. They fill the damn place...most of them do not make their kids behave in an appropriate manner.

3. Because of said Mexicans....when I do have to go there for something they advertise over the PA in spanish. This is America....SPEAK ENGLISH. I actually will refuse to buy products that have spanish printed on them because I don't want to support all the catering to these people. They came here...a lot of times illegally and then think that they are entitled to have every damn form and thing in the whole fsking world printed in spanish just for them. Yeah? WELL FVCK YOU! If I go to Mexico...I will speak spanish. Now...mind you I'm not that good but I at least will be able to communicate the basic stuff. Why can they not do the same damn thing...and if I was to go live down there (which...why I don't know) then I would learn spanish even better. They don't have everything in english down there...why should we do things differently?

4. Again...too many damn people...lines are too long...horrible service...nobody knows how to park their run-down POS cars that fill the parking lot.

5. I hate walmart.


I have actually been to a Walmart in Colorado and it was nice and kept clean and all and I wouldn't mind shopping at that one.

That's exactly what's going on at the Walmart in my area, which consist mostly of lower class hispanics. I hate to say it but it's the people who shop there that makes the place dirty and ghetto. They bring their whole family there which they wont bother to control or look after. They all look like they just woke up or got off the couch and decided they needed to go to walmart.

There's another Walmart that's alittle further out but in a middle to upper class neighborhood and that one is so much nicer and cleaner. None of the stuff I mentioned above. Like someone mentioned, it doesn't feel like you're in a third world country when shopping at this Walmart.

 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: jtvang125
They all look like they just woke up or got off the couch and decided they needed to go to walmart.

LMAO :laugh:
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: myusername
Originally posted by: MX2times
Just because Walmart is Walmart, how does the exact same product from the exact same manufacturer become degraded quality just because its at Walmart:confused:

Because it's not the same product.

That and all the damn indigents that have picked over it with their dirty hands!
 

dugweb

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#1 REASON: It's the company wal-mart keeps. It draws out some dirty people for some reason, and i feel dirty shopping there. Target somehow draws out all the Hot Chicks, and I enjoy looking at goodness while doing my shopping
 

paulney

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Because it's a freaking thirld-world country zoo now. At least at the closest one to where I live.

I go to Target. More civil.
 

iwearnosox

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Originally posted by: paulney
Because it's a freaking thirld-world country zoo now. At least at the closest one to where I live.

I go to Target. More civil.

Lol, I see you're in California. That's not the Mountain View Walmart, is it? My God that place IS like a third world country! :)
 

Ricemarine

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Uhh...
Cause the nearest walmart is 20 miles away?...

Yet there are 2 malls only a few miles away from me... so :D
 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: dugweb
#1 REASON: It's the company wal-mart keeps. It draws out some dirty people for some reason, and i feel dirty shopping there. Target somehow draws out all the Hot Chicks, and I enjoy looking at goodness while doing my shopping

This is true... Target just seems to attract a better class of people. You'll always see lots of well dressed people parking their BMW's and Audi's in the Target lot, but almost never at a Walmart. That place just seems to attract the rednecks in their beatup pickup trucks by the dozen.
 

paulney

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Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: paulney
Because it's a freaking thirld-world country zoo now. At least at the closest one to where I live.

I go to Target. More civil.

Lol, I see you're in California. That's not the Mountain View Walmart, is it? My God that place IS like a third world country! :)

Yes, yes, it is :)
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: ultimatebob
This is true... Target just seems to attract a better class of people. You'll always see lots of well dressed people parking their BMW's and Audi's in the Target lot, but almost never at a Walmart. That place just seems to attract the rednecks in their beatup pickup trucks by the dozen.

And the ones whose stereo systems are worth more than their entire vehicles :p

That said, Wal-Mart really does suck the big one. I haven't shopped there for over 7 years and I don't intend to. Not that I'm a big fan of the other corporate behemoths - Target, K-Mart - either, but I'll gladly go to either of those two and even spend a few dollars more.

 

ajpa123

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Articles like this one make me want to stop shopping there totally.. they are growing way to fast. I don't know the validity of the article.. so don't quote me on it :beer:

We are going to continue to grow, and we are going to do it because many, many communities want Wal-Mart," Scott said. "But I can assure you, the individual approvals that occur will never garner the press that those that are declined will.

To illustrate that point, Wal-Mart disclosed its real estate committee already has approved plans for an additional 950 Supercenter locations, noting there are thousands of opportunities to add Supercenters beyond those already approved by the committee. That view was supported by another nugget of information shared with analysts concerning the growing number of high volume locations and the opportunity to put stores closer together than previously thought. Wal-Mart operates nearly 300 Supercenters with sales in excess of $100 million compared with only 10 units that topped that threshold five years earlier. Many of those high-volume locations are being cannibalized intentionally--a process Wal-Mart refers to as "market development"--in an effort to gain greater market share.

The strategy has a short-term impact on same-store sales, but after a two- or three-year period, the end result is Wal-Mart has two stores operating at highly profitable sales volumes as opposed to a single highly profitable store prone to scores of operational issues due to high customer counts and enormous sales volumes.

A perfect example is St. Petersburg, Fl. One of the company's highest-volume stores is a Supercenter in the nearby community of Pinellas Park. The unit generated estimated sales of $165 million during the recently ended fiscal year. This year, those sales are expected to decline, but only by approximately 15 percent as a new 200,000-square-foot Supercenter opened seven miles away on Jan. 26. That unit is expected to generate first-year sales in excess of $100 million.

While this example is believed to be the most extreme in Wal-Mart's real estate portfolio, a similar process is taking place throughout the nation, which explains why Wal-Mart executives are optimistic about the company's ability to add thousands more stores and continue growing.

WAL-MART 2005 EXPANSION

...........................................PROJECTED.........UNITS TO.......PROJECTED
STORE TYPE......................YEAR-END '04........BE ADDED..........YEAR-END
..................................................TOTAL ...........IN '05..............'05 TOTAL

SUPERCENTERS.............................1,713...........240-250..........1,963
DISCOUNT STORES........................1,365..............40-45..........1,240
SAM'S CLUBS.................................549.................30-40.............564
INTERNATIONAL.............................1,487...........155-165..........1,650
NEIGHBORHOOD MARKETS..............76...................25-30.............101
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:shocked:
 

AnonymouseUser

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Originally posted by: MX2times
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: MX2times
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: MX2times
I shop wherever my buck gets stretched the farthest...period.

Clearly you don't shop at WalMart, then. :thumbsup:
Not true. Sometimes Walmart is the cheapest, sometimes it isnt. I try to pay attention and do research before making purchases.

Their products are always the cheapest, though, despite the price. Cheapest = more expensive (in the long run) in my book.

Just because Walmart is Walmart, how does the exact same product from the exact same manufacturer become degraded quality just because its at Walmart:confused:

For instance...

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=1929793

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/re...ding=UTF8&frombrowse=1&asin=B000062XQ8

I use Target against Walmart because those are the two stores nearest me.

While there may be a few (maybe even many) instances where the exact product is cheaper at WalMart, there are more instances where nearly identical items aren't. Short term or long term.

There are many hidden factors to consider as well, such as your time spent to save that $2.11, the cleanliness of the store, the overall attitude of the other patrons and staff, etc, etc.

Unfortunately, a lot of customers are duped into believing that everything at WalMart is cheaper since many things are, and they end up paying more for some items than if they comparison shopped. Example: Target is $8.49 cheaper than WalMart.
 

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Lifer
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As stated originally, I go where my buck gets stretched farther, no matter what the item is. Saving money is saving money...but thats just me. If its cheaper a Walmart when I am out to buy it, thats where I go. If its Target, you will find me there. Both stores are equally the same distance from me and I do my best not to let other people ruin my day or shopping experience.