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To those Mac heads

So

Lifer
You are looking at current definitions, stop ignoring the history.

IBM made their line of computers called simply the "IBM PC"

then other manufacturers began to make desktop computers and called them "IBM PC Compatible"

then they shortened it to "IBM compatible" or "PC compatible"

finally, "PC" especially after IBM died out as a major player in the submarket that they had created.

Oy.

/rant.
 
A PC has to do with the operating system, not really the hardware (although in some cases the hardware really matters). Mac OS X is a PC Operating System regardless of whether it is running on PowerPC, or x86.
 
Originally posted by: PowerMacG5
A PC has to do with the operating system, not really the hardware (although in some cases the hardware really matters). Mac OS X is a PC Operating System regardless of whether it is running on PowerPC, or x86.

This makes no sense to me. A PC in the formal sense (i.e. personal computer) has to do with the nature of the hardware. In the informal sense it has to do with the ability to run the same apps that PCs following in the legacy of the IBM PC can.
 
i think you're jealous cause all your pc does is spreadsheets

I think you're jealous because the company you bought your computer from makes 70% of it's profit selling i-Pods to teenagers rather than professional software. BTW, as for doing "just spreadsheets," I've been doing the corporate IT thing for 15 years and have never seen an Apple product inside a server farm. Seems if Macs were actually superior to Windows based PC's you'd actually see them entrusted trusted to corporate tasks other than editing the stretch marks off of models.

Note that my Windows servers also run off a mix of Intel and AMD. Apple's will run of the hardware (legally) Steve Jobe's tells you to use. That's enough for me to give a big middle finger to that platform and deal with Windows because at least I have some choices.

What I don't get is why Mac hypocrites have been bad mouthing Intel as bad as Windows for the past decade, then run by the hordes to buy dual core centrino based laptops because your own G4s suck. This being the same G4 Steve Jobes claimed was superior to anything Intel makes, so someobdy needs some ritalin here.

In conclusion, note that Microsoft is limited legally from including their own i-Ware alternatives while Apple can load up their OS with anything they want because their market share is about the same as Sega and Atari combined. That's a load of crap if you ask me, and another reason Apple is the most irrelevant product in the history of computing.
 

Originally posted by: spikespiegal
i think you're jealous cause all your pc does is spreadsheets
What I don't get is why Mac hypocrites have been bad mouthing Intel as bad as Windows for the past decade, then run by the hordes to buy dual core centrino based laptops because your own G4s suck. This being the same G4 Steve Jobes claimed was superior to anything Intel makes, so someobdy needs some ritalin here.

and the STUPID commercials with MAC > PC is B.S.

I agree with your post.
 
The kid in the Apple vs PC commercials doesn't tell you he lives in his parent's basement, has $60,000 in student loans, and gets most of his MP3's from illegal download sites.

The Bill Gate's look-alike uses his PC to run his business, and has house in the Hamptons along with a condo in Florida.
 
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
i think you're jealous cause all your pc does is spreadsheets

I think you're jealous because the company you bought your computer from makes 70% of it's profit selling i-Pods to teenagers rather than professional software. BTW, as for doing "just spreadsheets," I've been doing the corporate IT thing for 15 years and have never seen an Apple product inside a server farm. Seems if Macs were actually superior to Windows based PC's you'd actually see them entrusted trusted to corporate tasks other than editing the stretch marks off of models.

Note that my Windows servers also run off a mix of Intel and AMD. Apple's will run of the hardware (legally) Steve Jobe's tells you to use. That's enough for me to give a big middle finger to that platform and deal with Windows because at least I have some choices.

What I don't get is why Mac hypocrites have been bad mouthing Intel as bad as Windows for the past decade, then run by the hordes to buy dual core centrino based laptops because your own G4s suck. This being the same G4 Steve Jobes claimed was superior to anything Intel makes, so someobdy needs some ritalin here.

In conclusion, note that Microsoft is limited legally from including their own i-Ware alternatives while Apple can load up their OS with anything they want because their market share is about the same as Sega and Atari combined. That's a load of crap if you ask me, and another reason Apple is the most irrelevant product in the history of computing.

I'm fairly certain he was making a joking reference to those dumb commercials
 
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
i think you're jealous cause all your pc does is spreadsheets

I think you're jealous because the company you bought your computer from makes 70% of it's profit selling i-Pods to teenagers rather than professional software. BTW, as for doing "just spreadsheets," I've been doing the corporate IT thing for 15 years and have never seen an Apple product inside a server farm. Seems if Macs were actually superior to Windows based PC's you'd actually see them entrusted trusted to corporate tasks other than editing the stretch marks off of models.

Note that my Windows servers also run off a mix of Intel and AMD. Apple's will run of the hardware (legally) Steve Jobe's tells you to use. That's enough for me to give a big middle finger to that platform and deal with Windows because at least I have some choices.

What I don't get is why Mac hypocrites have been bad mouthing Intel as bad as Windows for the past decade, then run by the hordes to buy dual core centrino based laptops because your own G4s suck. This being the same G4 Steve Jobes claimed was superior to anything Intel makes, so someobdy needs some ritalin here.

In conclusion, note that Microsoft is limited legally from including their own i-Ware alternatives while Apple can load up their OS with anything they want because their market share is about the same as Sega and Atari combined. That's a load of crap if you ask me, and another reason Apple is the most irrelevant product in the history of computing.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
i think you're jealous cause all your pc does is spreadsheets

I think you're jealous because the company you bought your computer from makes 70% of it's profit selling i-Pods to teenagers rather than professional software. BTW, as for doing "just spreadsheets," I've been doing the corporate IT thing for 15 years and have never seen an Apple product inside a server farm. Seems if Macs were actually superior to Windows based PC's you'd actually see them entrusted trusted to corporate tasks other than editing the stretch marks off of models.

Well, let's see about all this. While most of it's hardware profits do come from iPods (not per device, as a whole. Per device, the profit/cost ratio on a G5 is much higher than an iPod), Apple makes significant profit off of it's professional software.

Final Cut Pro is used in a good amount of major TV outlets for on the fly editing, as well as for making movies. Shake is probably the best product at what it does, and made The Lord of the Rings movies what they were.

To your server farm comment, Virginia Tech's Supercomputer FTW.

Note that my Windows servers also run off a mix of Intel and AMD. Apple's will run of the hardware (legally) Steve Jobe's tells you to use. That's enough for me to give a big middle finger to that platform and deal with Windows because at least I have some choices.

The reason Apple wants to lock it's hardware and software together is so it can guarantee a level of stability that Windows cannot. Because Windows must support thousands of devices, Microsoft cannot guarantee that their entire system won't be brough down by a bad motherboard driver.

What I don't get is why Mac hypocrites have been bad mouthing Intel as bad as Windows for the past decade, then run by the hordes to buy dual core centrino based laptops because your own G4s suck. This being the same G4 Steve Jobes claimed was superior to anything Intel makes, so someobdy needs some ritalin here.

If you knew anything about the history their, you would bite your tongue. When the G4 first came out, it was superior to the current line of Intel/AMD. The problem arose when they started using G5, and .IBM could not deliver a mobile version, which forced Apple to stick with the Moto/Freescale G4's since they had no alternative. Their was no way IBM could deliver a mobile G5 without some serious R&D, which they did not seem to be willing to do. IBM caused it's own downfall in that respect. If they had made a mobile G5, I can almost guarantee the Intel build would still be a secret.

In conclusion, note that Microsoft is limited legally from including their own i-Ware alternatives while Apple can load up their OS with anything they want because their market share is about the same as Sega and Atari combined. That's a load of crap if you ask me, and another reason Apple is the most irrelevant product in the history of computing.

In regards to that, the difference is, Apple's software isn't intertwined with the OS. I can delete Safari, and it's actually gone. When you "uninstall" IE it's not gone, since Windows Explorer and IE are using the same engine.
 
Originally posted by: PowerMacG5
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
i think you're jealous cause all your pc does is spreadsheets

I think you're jealous because the company you bought your computer from makes 70% of it's profit selling i-Pods to teenagers rather than professional software. BTW, as for doing "just spreadsheets," I've been doing the corporate IT thing for 15 years and have never seen an Apple product inside a server farm. Seems if Macs were actually superior to Windows based PC's you'd actually see them entrusted trusted to corporate tasks other than editing the stretch marks off of models.

Well, let's see about all this. While most of it's hardware profits do come from iPods (not per device, as a whole. Per device, the profit/cost ratio on a G5 is much higher than an iPod), Apple makes significant profit off of it's professional software.

Final Cut Pro is used in a good amount of major TV outlets for on the fly editing, as well as for making movies. Shake is probably the best product at what it does, and made The Lord of the Rings movies what they were.

To your server farm comment, Virginia Tech's Supercomputer FTW.

Note that my Windows servers also run off a mix of Intel and AMD. Apple's will run of the hardware (legally) Steve Jobe's tells you to use. That's enough for me to give a big middle finger to that platform and deal with Windows because at least I have some choices.

The reason Apple wants to lock it's hardware and software together is so it can guarantee a level of stability that Windows cannot. Because Windows must support thousands of devices, Microsoft cannot guarantee that their entire system won't be brough down by a bad motherboard driver.

What I don't get is why Mac hypocrites have been bad mouthing Intel as bad as Windows for the past decade, then run by the hordes to buy dual core centrino based laptops because your own G4s suck. This being the same G4 Steve Jobes claimed was superior to anything Intel makes, so someobdy needs some ritalin here.

If you knew anything about the history their, you would bite your tongue. When the G4 first came out, it was superior to the current line of Intel/AMD. The problem arose when they started using G5, and .IBM could not deliver a mobile version, which forced Apple to stick with the Moto/Freescale G4's since they had no alternative. Their was no way IBM could deliver a mobile G5 without some serious R&D, which they did not seem to be willing to do. IBM caused it's own downfall in that respect. If they had made a mobile G5, I can almost guarantee the Intel build would still be a secret.

In conclusion, note that Microsoft is limited legally from including their own i-Ware alternatives while Apple can load up their OS with anything they want because their market share is about the same as Sega and Atari combined. That's a load of crap if you ask me, and another reason Apple is the most irrelevant product in the history of computing.

In regards to that, the difference is, Apple's software isn't intertwined with the OS. I can delete Safari, and it's actually gone. When you "uninstall" IE it's not gone, since Windows Explorer and IE are using the same engine.


^^^^^
FTW!!
 
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
i think you're jealous cause all your pc does is spreadsheets

I think you're jealous because the company you bought your computer from makes 70% of it's profit selling i-Pods to teenagers rather than professional software. BTW, as for doing "just spreadsheets," I've been doing the corporate IT thing for 15 years and have never seen an Apple product inside a server farm. Seems if Macs were actually superior to Windows based PC's you'd actually see them entrusted trusted to corporate tasks other than editing the stretch marks off of models.

Note that my Windows servers also run off a mix of Intel and AMD. Apple's will run of the hardware (legally) Steve Jobe's tells you to use. That's enough for me to give a big middle finger to that platform and deal with Windows because at least I have some choices.

What I don't get is why Mac hypocrites have been bad mouthing Intel as bad as Windows for the past decade, then run by the hordes to buy dual core centrino based laptops because your own G4s suck. This being the same G4 Steve Jobes claimed was superior to anything Intel makes, so someobdy needs some ritalin here.

In conclusion, note that Microsoft is limited legally from including their own i-Ware alternatives while Apple can load up their OS with anything they want because their market share is about the same as Sega and Atari combined. That's a load of crap if you ask me, and another reason Apple is the most irrelevant product in the history of computing.

lol holysht effort

 
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