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To spank or not to spank...this is the question...

Sounds like they offered her a cup of sh|t, said "Here, this cup has sh|t in it" then she drank it and started to cry when it wasn't OJ.
 
aggrement or not. NOBODY is going to tell me to spank my kids. I know for a fact if that woman was my wife, that administrator would have gotten slapped for making such a demand.
 
I don't think spanking is bad, but people certainly shouldn't be FORCED to spank their kids.

That said, the situation is screwy from a couple different angles...
Woman enrolls kid in a school that requires spanking, even though she doesn't believe in it.
Woman does not sign required paper endorsing spanking, but the school lets the kid enroll anyway.

Sounds like neither of them was thinking very hard.
 
Originally posted by: Citrix
aggrement or not. NOBODY is going to tell me to spank my kids. I know for a fact if that woman was my wife, that administrator would have gotten slapped for making such a demand.

I would have preferred that they just spanked him and been done with it. Getting spanked in school was one of the few things that kept my age in line.
 
Please... the lack of corporal punishment in schools is a travisty. Its a proven deterrant to misbehavior, and it was especially so when I was in high school and all the female teachers would send you directly to the coaches, who did not hold back at all and when they were done, you felt weak in the knees and you knew damn well you'd better not screw up again. I'm not overly religious by any means, but whether you believe every word of the Bible implicitly or take the fables and stories there and glean your own little nuggets of wisdom, one area in which its pretty darn accurate is "spare the rod, spoil the child". Whether she spanks the kid or not at home doesn't really matter much to me, but if he's misbehaving, then he needs to be punished somehow. My Mom hardly ever spanked me and neither did my Dad, but if faced with this, they would have tore my butt up... at home, they could always get me to behave by explaining to me why it was important to be a decent kid. This woman needs to do the same thing to her kid. And yes, I will tell her how to raise her kid, and I will tell anyone how to raise their kids, especially if their kids are acting like little heathens. Child-rearing in the past (as in, go back 5,000 years) has been a responsbility of the social group in which the kids were living in, not just relegated to one set of parents. Its that mentality that we've eroded over the past 50 years that I personally believe is contributing to more misbehavior in schools today.
 
Originally posted by: Boze
Please... the lack of corporal punishment in schools is a travisty. Its a proven deterrant to misbehavior, and it was especially so when I was in high school and all the female teachers would send you directly to the coaches, who did not hold back at all and when they were done, you felt weak in the knees and you knew damn well you'd better not screw up again. I'm not overly religious by any means, but whether you believe every word of the Bible implicitly or take the fables and stories there and glean your own little nuggets of wisdom, one area in which its pretty darn accurate is "spare the rod, spoil the child". Whether she spanks the kid or not at home doesn't really matter much to me, but if he's misbehaving, then he needs to be punished somehow. My Mom hardly ever spanked me and neither did my Dad, but if faced with this, they would have tore my butt up... at home, they could always get me to behave by explaining to me why it was important to be a decent kid. This woman needs to do the same thing to her kid. And yes, I will tell her how to raise her kid, and I will tell anyone how to raise their kids, especially if their kids are acting like little heathens. Child-rearing in the past (as in, go back 5,000 years) has been a responsbility of the social group in which the kids were living in, not just relegated to one set of parents. Its that mentality that we've eroded over the past 50 years that I personally believe is contributing to more misbehavior in schools today.

:beer: for you
 
Couple points some may miss:

- Private school, ie. not compulsory
- She signed an agreement of which this was a part

Whether you're for or against spanking is irrelevant, the school is clearly right. If she didnt' like their policies, nobody forced her into it. She needs a spanking (and going by the pic, I'm willing to volunteer my services for that...)
 
Originally posted by: Gurck
Couple points some may miss:

- Private school, ie. not compulsory
- She signed an agreement of which this was a part

Whether you're for or against spanking is irrelevant, the school is clearly right. If she didnt' like their policies, nobody forced her into it. She needs a spanking (and going by the pic, I'm willing to volunteer my services for that...)

LOL :beer: I'll second that.

 
Originally posted by: Gurck
- She signed an agreement of which this was a part

actually, the funny thing is that she DIDN'T sign the agreement...yet the school let the kid attend classes. Hmm...
 
Originally posted by: Citrix
aggrement or not. NOBODY is going to tell me to spank my kids. I know for a fact if that woman was my wife, that administrator would have gotten slapped for making such a demand.

A. she was given the option to spank or suspension
B. If you slapped her, then you would have fun with the legal system for a while.

-MC
 
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Gurck
- She signed an agreement of which this was a part
actually, the funny thing is that she DIDN'T sign the agreement...yet the school let the kid attend classes. Hmm...
You're right, that changes things a bit. Dunno why he was allowed to attend
 
You know, I can't fault the school here...even if she didn't sign it...its not like they forced the kids pants down, grabbed her arm and made her spank the kid. They just suspended him instead. And look at that little sh|t...you know that little bastard has his mom wrapped around his little finger.
 
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Boze
Please... the lack of corporal punishment in schools is a travisty. Its a proven deterrant to misbehavior, and it was especially so when I was in high school and all the female teachers would send you directly to the coaches, who did not hold back at all and when they were done, you felt weak in the knees and you knew damn well you'd better not screw up again. I'm not overly religious by any means, but whether you believe every word of the Bible implicitly or take the fables and stories there and glean your own little nuggets of wisdom, one area in which its pretty darn accurate is "spare the rod, spoil the child". Whether she spanks the kid or not at home doesn't really matter much to me, but if he's misbehaving, then he needs to be punished somehow. My Mom hardly ever spanked me and neither did my Dad, but if faced with this, they would have tore my butt up... at home, they could always get me to behave by explaining to me why it was important to be a decent kid. This woman needs to do the same thing to her kid. And yes, I will tell her how to raise her kid, and I will tell anyone how to raise their kids, especially if their kids are acting like little heathens. Child-rearing in the past (as in, go back 5,000 years) has been a responsbility of the social group in which the kids were living in, not just relegated to one set of parents. Its that mentality that we've eroded over the past 50 years that I personally believe is contributing to more misbehavior in schools today.

:beer: for you

Ditto :beer:
 
Parents have every right how to raise their kids, but from what is described in the story, the kid is a little out of control. So she really needs to question on how lenient she has raised this kid so far.
 
Originally posted by: Boze
Please... the lack of corporal punishment in schools is a travisty. Its a proven deterrant to misbehavior, and it was especially so when I was in high school and all the female teachers would send you directly to the coaches, who did not hold back at all and when they were done, you felt weak in the knees and you knew damn well you'd better not screw up again. I'm not overly religious by any means, but whether you believe every word of the Bible implicitly or take the fables and stories there and glean your own little nuggets of wisdom, one area in which its pretty darn accurate is "spare the rod, spoil the child". Whether she spanks the kid or not at home doesn't really matter much to me, but if he's misbehaving, then he needs to be punished somehow. My Mom hardly ever spanked me and neither did my Dad, but if faced with this, they would have tore my butt up... at home, they could always get me to behave by explaining to me why it was important to be a decent kid. This woman needs to do the same thing to her kid. And yes, I will tell her how to raise her kid, and I will tell anyone how to raise their kids, especially if their kids are acting like little heathens. Child-rearing in the past (as in, go back 5,000 years) has been a responsbility of the social group in which the kids were living in, not just relegated to one set of parents. Its that mentality that we've eroded over the past 50 years that I personally believe is contributing to more misbehavior in schools today.

You should meet this cool guy I know. His name is PARAGRAPHS
 
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Boze
Please... the lack of corporal punishment in schools is a travisty. Its a proven deterrant to misbehavior, and it was especially so when I was in high school and all the female teachers would send you directly to the coaches, who did not hold back at all and when they were done, you felt weak in the knees and you knew damn well you'd better not screw up again. I'm not overly religious by any means, but whether you believe every word of the Bible implicitly or take the fables and stories there and glean your own little nuggets of wisdom, one area in which its pretty darn accurate is "spare the rod, spoil the child". Whether she spanks the kid or not at home doesn't really matter much to me, but if he's misbehaving, then he needs to be punished somehow. My Mom hardly ever spanked me and neither did my Dad, but if faced with this, they would have tore my butt up... at home, they could always get me to behave by explaining to me why it was important to be a decent kid. This woman needs to do the same thing to her kid. And yes, I will tell her how to raise her kid, and I will tell anyone how to raise their kids, especially if their kids are acting like little heathens. Child-rearing in the past (as in, go back 5,000 years) has been a responsbility of the social group in which the kids were living in, not just relegated to one set of parents. Its that mentality that we've eroded over the past 50 years that I personally believe is contributing to more misbehavior in schools today.

You should meet this cool guy I know. His name is PARAGRAPHS

That guy must have gotten a lot of sh|t growing up.
 
I know that when we adopted my wife's niece last year, we tried the "talk to them and tell them what they did wrong" $hit and it got us nowhere. My mother, despite having spanked us growing up, has received years of formal education and worked with small children, during which time she's come to the conclusion that spanking isn't necessary or even effective. Needless to say, I listened to her for the first 5 months, then I had my fill. The kid wouldn't listen, blew us off and generally didn't care and she's only 5. It was like living with a teenager, literally. I finally put out the word that she was gonna get her ass whooped for acting up and you know what, she's been better ever since. She usually gets a measure of how many swats she's going to get verbally and then when we get home, I hold to that. She's straightened up immeasurably in that time and continues to do so.
 
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Boze
Please... the lack of corporal punishment in schools is a travisty. Its a proven deterrant to misbehavior, and it was especially so when I was in high school and all the female teachers would send you directly to the coaches, who did not hold back at all and when they were done, you felt weak in the knees and you knew damn well you'd better not screw up again. I'm not overly religious by any means, but whether you believe every word of the Bible implicitly or take the fables and stories there and glean your own little nuggets of wisdom, one area in which its pretty darn accurate is "spare the rod, spoil the child". Whether she spanks the kid or not at home doesn't really matter much to me, but if he's misbehaving, then he needs to be punished somehow. My Mom hardly ever spanked me and neither did my Dad, but if faced with this, they would have tore my butt up... at home, they could always get me to behave by explaining to me why it was important to be a decent kid. This woman needs to do the same thing to her kid. And yes, I will tell her how to raise her kid, and I will tell anyone how to raise their kids, especially if their kids are acting like little heathens. Child-rearing in the past (as in, go back 5,000 years) has been a responsbility of the social group in which the kids were living in, not just relegated to one set of parents. Its that mentality that we've eroded over the past 50 years that I personally believe is contributing to more misbehavior in schools today.

You should meet this cool guy I know. His name is PARAGRAPHS

Yeah, he's a nice guy and all, and Boze really should use him more often, but he got his point across and I agree with it 100%.
 
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