To Serve and Protect....

MikeMike

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Has this saying lost all its meaning to police force in the US instead devolving into "to enforce"...

I don't think i have seen cops lately serving the citizens, they normally just enforce laws... They will lecture you if your car is stuck in snow, but wont help you out...
 

Bateluer

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Except when I see cops passing people broke down on the side of the road. I believe they used to stop and see if people need help.

I've seen them stop before. Must be a regional thing. Would be dangerous in say, Detroit.

When I had my car accident back in December, the local police were extremely courteous and professional.
 

boomerang

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Has this saying lost all its meaning to police force in the US instead devolving into "to enforce"...

I don't think i have seen cops lately serving the citizens, they normally just enforce laws... They will lecture you if your car is stuck in snow, but wont help you out...
Got your car stuck huh?
 

CycloWizard

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Laws were intended to protect the populous back in the day as well. Now, most of the laws cops spend their time on are intended to generate revenue.
 

werepossum

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Laws were intended to protect the populous back in the day as well. Now, most of the laws cops spend their time on are intended to generate revenue.
True, but that's set from above the cops. Although maybe not totally; I can remember a buddy telling me that since a particular area had been instrumental in defeating a measure to raise cops' salaries, they were going to be patrolling that area very thoroughly and writing parking tickets like candy because half the money went straight into the police retirement fund. So part of it is probably enlightened self interest.
 

Craig234

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I remember when Service Stations had SERVICE! Pump my gas, wash my windshield, check my oil! Kids today!
 

FalseChristian

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Remember, the police are sinful, imperfect humans like all of us. There are cops who are power mad and there are cops who are humble. Unfortunately they are a necessary evil.
 

dmcowen674

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To Serve and Protect....

Has this saying lost all its meaning to police force in the US instead devolving into "to enforce"...

I don't think i have seen cops lately serving the citizens, they normally just enforce laws... They will lecture you if your car is stuck in snow, but wont help you out...

No it has just changed focus

To Serve and Protect....profits
 

Craig234

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No it has just changed focus

To Serve and Protect....profits

That seems like a baseless attack on the police to me. For all the issues of harmful policies to protect profits, like wars, I don't see the problem with police on it.

Police seem to me more of public servants who should be appreciated, even if there has been a decline in the 'service for road car problems'.

There can be problems - the unwillingness at times to turn each other in for wrongdoing, for example - but we have it very good IMO.

The larger issue I don't like is around cost-cutting affecting policies, where many crimes are basically not investigated now - what 'small budget right' really gets.
 

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In many places cops have turned into a means of generating revenue for cities.

This also goes hand-in-hand with the "progressive" destruction of personal responsibility.
 

dfuze

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Must be lucky, all the cops I've ever had to deal with around here have been stand up people.
 

MikeMike

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All i know, is i hear stories CONSTANTLY from people my parents age talking about being helped home, even if they were drunk, just the cops letting them go home, way back when... (like 20 years)... they were protecting by serving...
 

HAL9000

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I was just told about that it's not a legal requirement for the police in the US to protect anymore!
 

Craig234

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In many places cops have turned into a means of generating revenue for cities.

This also goes hand-in-hand with the "progressive" destruction of personal responsibility.

95% of what is said here about liberals is wrong or lies, and I can't remember the other 5%. But it's 100% for what I've seen from Patranus.
 

Zebo

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Without question in larger cities we have militarized our police forces where they come in in combat gear. And I think they might get more cooperation from the local citizens they didn't smash in people's doors especially the wrong ones and shoot wrong people. You know more community have officers live in area's served not in the burbs I think would help.

But in general cops are good people doing a tough job. Most cities, especially small ones, they are a lot like Andy the big ones not so much.
 

Zebo

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In many places cops have turned into a means of generating revenue for cities.

Bullshit fast driver. I've had 1 ticket in my life in King Country California a notorious "speed trap" guess what I was doing, speeding, hence the ticket. I've gone trough there probably 100 times since on the way to giants games never one problem. They should fine you for breaking the law or else there is no rule of law. I wish they would generate more revenue with all the speedsters these days.
 

CycloWizard

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Bullshit fast driver. I've had 1 ticket in my life in King Country California a notorious "speed trap" guess what I was doing, speeding, hence the ticket. I've gone trough there probably 100 times since on the way to giants games never one problem. They should fine you for breaking the law or else there is no rule of law. I wish they would generate more revenue with all the speedsters these days.
But the law should not be designed to generate revenue: the law should be there to keep people safe and keep traffic moving.
 

1prophet

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That seems like a baseless attack on the police to me. For all the issues of harmful policies to protect profits, like wars, I don't see the problem with police on it.

Police seem to me more of public servants who should be appreciated, even if there has been a decline in the 'service for road car problems'.

There can be problems - the unwillingness at times to turn each other in for wrongdoing, for example - but we have it very good IMO.

The larger issue I don't like is around cost-cutting affecting policies, where many crimes are basically not investigated now - what 'small budget right' really gets.

You must be white. :biggrin:

All kidding aside,

Don't talk to the police

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4097602514885833865#docid=8167533318153586646
 

destrekor

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Except when I see cops passing people broke down on the side of the road. I believe they used to stop and see if people need help.

I've seen numerous police stopped on the side of the road helping a citizen with their stranded vehicle.

Though I'll admit, I've seen it far more often with State Troopers than I have in the city.