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To rat out the ex-con or not? (Need help, please)

MichaelD

Lifer
Here's something you don't read every day...especially not from me. Usually it's a "woman thread" or something.
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This is waaaay different and quite involved. I'll try to be concise.

My GF has a younger brother who is not that bright. He's easily influenced. (20 years old...we'll call him "Pete") a few years ago, Pete got involved w/some not so upstanding criminal types...basically young punks that went to his school/dropped out of school and the guys they hung out with. Bad news types. They were a little older than him and played him like a fiddle.

Contrary to everyone's advice and wishes, her brother moved in (shared a house) with one of these criminal types and the guy's GF. This guy is a convicted felon. Did 18 months in jail for possesion of stolen cars and fraudulently selling vehicles with altered VIN numbers...in other words, they guy was selling stolen cars/parts and forging titles. Not exactly child's play.

This guy and his GF stole money/jewelery/food from Pete while he lived there. They also used/banged up his car w/o Pete's permission...never fixed anything either. Whenever Pete would talk about moving out, they would "threaten" him...saying things like "it would be a shame for something to happen to your nice, new car..." and things like that.

Finally, Pete moved out and moved back in w/his Dad. Fine and good. Well, my GF found out yesterday that Pete is STILL hanging out with this guy...Pete's gonna get what's coming to him for being a dumbass.

Here's the reason for my post. My GF found out from her brother that The Felon is now working at the car dealership where I bought my truck...in the Finanace Dept.

The guy would have access to all my personal info. SSN, bank account, credit report etc. Forging checks, CC's is just one thing that this guy has done over his illustrious career. One condition of his Parole is that he's not to be involved with ANYTHING related to the selling/repairing of automobiles.

I am worried about my personal info. When I bring my truck in for service, I'm bound to run into this guy...I've butted heads w/him before about many things...like hitting on my GF when she went over to see her brother, and ripping off a stupid kid who doesn't know any better.

Do I call the dealership and essentially tell them "do you know you have a convicted car thief/felon working for you?" I firmly believe in "live and let live" but this guy has not cleaned up his act one bit. Still hangs out with the same criminals...he's just less conspicuous now.

I have no personal vendetta against this guy. I never met him until I started dating my GF and I had to help her brother out. I"m worried about ME and MY INFO.

To rat or not to rat...that is the question.

 
make an anonymous call, don't worry about it. THat is, unless you think he's making an attempt to clean himself up, but if he's still a lowlife I wouldn't sweat it.
 
Damn, dude...could you possibly have any more drama in your life?😉

Anyway...tough question. The dealership may already be aware of his record. OTOH, I doubt it as the last person you'd want to give access to that kind of info at a dealership is a guy who has been convicted for the stuff he did. That'd be like giving Mitnick a job at the CIA ferchrissakes. I say rat the f*cker out and slap some sense into Pete before he ends up in the joint.

Fausto
 
Thanks guys; appreciate the opinions. I'm really torn on this. I don't want to piss this guy off, but OTOH, I have a great relationship w/this dealership...they take very good care of me. But, I'd kick myself in the 'nads if I wound up getting screwed b/c this guy got his hands on my personal info.

What to do?
 


<< What to do? >>


If he can't work in auto, then he violated his parole. How is he doing this without his parole officer knowing?
Can you call the Parole board or whatever and say you think he's violating his parole?
 
I would recommend giving the dealership a call about this. It's not only you he may screw over, it's other people also. The dealership will then take a hit for it if the guy starts the info he has access to for scams.
 


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<< What to do? >>


If he can't work in auto, then he violated his parole. How is he doing this without his parole officer knowing?
Can you call the Parole board or whatever and say you think he's violating his parole?
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The problem is that I don't know his last name. I know his first name and what he looks like. That's about it. It's just a matter of time before I bump into him there at the dealership. From my GFs brother, I know he sees his parole officer on a regular basis, but not much else about the situation.

He's very slick. By speaking w/him, you wouldn't guess he's a criminal. Pretty well-spoken. He's a scam artist. The type that talks little old ladies out of their nest eggs...POS, that's what he is.
 


<< The problem is that I don't know his last name. I know his first name and what he looks like. That's about it. >>

Not knowing the POS's last name should not be a problem. What you know should be enough for the dealership to identify him, considering they should know who they employ.🙂 I agree with whoever said to anonymously call the dealership and just point the scammer out and let them know about the possible parole violation. Then leave it in the dealer's hands as what to do with the asswipe that's working for them. If they know what's good for their business, they will take action.
 
Thanks, Klee58. Yours makes two suggestions for an anonymous call. That's what I'll do. From a payphone at lunch, today. Can't use my cell phone...caller ID and all that. Thanks. Hopefully, they can his @ss on the spot. Crook. :|
 
This is a tough one no doubt. If you call anonymously you'll no doubt screw him over whether he gets fired or not because the word will get around among the other ee's from who you talk to that he's a felon regarding autos etc. I'd anonymously call the parole place and let them handle it so the dealer can say they talked the them instead of someone 'anonymous' - but you don't know his last name. Reason being, to minimize the chance of it 'coming back' to your g/f's brother, if the felon suspects someone close to him ratted. Anyhow, it sounds like you want to make the call anyways so what the heck, take 'em down!
 
Believe me, if I knew more info, I'd just call the PO. I'm just going to make an anonymous call to the dealership manager. Let him know "hey, you may want to check out your new guy, XXXXXX as he's had some prior convictions for stolen autos." and hang up and hope for the best.

If I sit idly by and do nothing, I'll kick myself later if something goes wrong.
 
Does the dealership have a website online? If so go there and see if they list the guys name under the employee section(assuming they have it).

Or, maybe have a friend of a friend, who would be very tough to be tracked back to you slip into the dealership and see if he can pull a last name off of a desk nameplate or snag a business card off of him. They seem to be readily available to hand those out.

Once you get that, I'd contact the police department and just mention to the dispatch that you'd like to report a possible parole violation. I'm sure using the first and last name of the kid they could point you to the correct officer in charge of him.

I would most certainly though try and get to the bottom of it. I believe that some people can change, but I think he's just got way too much temptation at his disposal right now.
 
Also, I personally would let the parole officer handle it. Annoymous call may get him fired, but the parole officer could more or less catch him redhanded and really bust his ass good.

I'm sure he'll do some pretty good time for pulling something like this while on parole.
 


<< Also, I personally would let the parole officer handle it. Annoymous call may get him fired, but the parole officer could more or less catch him redhanded and really bust his ass good.

I'm sure he'll do some pretty good time for pulling something like this while on parole.
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i like this idea. but not sure how you could go about finding the PO. Anonymous call seems the best way...but make sure you give the manager enough so that he doesn't just think you are some punk who has personal vendetta against the POS. Good Luck Michael....
 
Yeah, I like the parole officer idea (vi_edit). My opinion is that you should probably go ahead and take some action. YOU and hundreds others may or may not be screwed regardless. While your fear of retailiation is not unjustified, he is less likely to hurt you or others if he is being watched than while he thinks he is operating undetected.
 
I'm investigating as we speak. I'm getting his full name from an undisclosed source (not his place of employment.) I will then contact the Parole board in my city. I'll let them handle it.
 


<< One condition of his Parole is that he's not to be involved with ANYTHING related to the selling/repairing of automobiles. >>

THAT is enough right there to tell you to open your mouth!

nik
 
So you know enough about this guy to know one of his conditions of parole, but not his last name? Odd...

If you're really insistent of fu(c)king this guy over, at least go through his PO.
 
Get the name, contact the PO board, tell them where he is working and what he is doing. Most parole violations will land his butt back in jail and one that is a direct violation like this should definately. The PO board will contact the dealship and confirm his employment then should warn them about what he is convicted of and the conditions of his parole. More than likely there will be checks made to see if he has taken any financial records. If he has, I would wager he's going back up to the prison for quite a while.
 


<< So you know enough about this guy to know one of his conditions of parole, but not his last name? Odd...

If you're really insistent of fu(c)king this guy over, at least go through his PO.
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Here we have another case of "open mouth, insert foot, close mouth." Did you read my entire story or are you just shooting from the hip?

I know of his story (record) from what my GF's brother has told me, and what the guy has told me himself, to my face. The thought of saying "well, Mr. Convict, that's quite a story...what is your last name, BTW?" never crossed my mind.

I could care less about screwing him over; I want to protect MYSELF, b/c in that filing cabinet at that dealership are copies of my driver's license, SS card, pay statement, bank statement and a few other things I can't remember. If, in the process, I can protect others as well, then dandy. I'm looking out for #1 here, nobody else.

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On a side note, this guy is a real POS as a human being. He'd knock and old woman into the street to snatch her purse...no conscience at all. I wouldn't mind seeing a piece of trash get thrown back in the gutter where it belongs.
 
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