To go back to intel or not

[kojak61]

My last intel system was a pentium 166. I have been AMD since. Now I want to up grade from my 2200xp. Problem is a 2ghz p4 is cheaper than a 3000xp or 64 chip. Also performance wise the p4 looks like a better buy. I am in a dililema, oh,what is I to do?

 

[caz67]

Go with the Intel, you can overclock to at least 2.4 or better. It will be a cheaper option at this satge.

 

[myocardia]

If you're an overclocker, get yourself a P4C or a mobile Barton. If not, get either an Athlon64 or a P4C.

 

[LTC8K6]

A 2Ghz P4 would not be much of an upgrade from your XP2200+. A 2ghz P4 is also way slower than an XP3000+ or an Athlon64.

You'd need to look at a 2.4C P4 at a minimum, and really faster than that for a good upgrade from your XP. I wouldn't look lower than a 3.0C myself.

You will then find the AMD Athlon64's competitive on both price and performance, more bang for the buck.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: caz67
Go with the Intel, you can overclock to at least 2.4 or better. It will be a cheaper option at this satge.

Well, it won't be cheaper, since he'll have to also buy the motherboard.

 

[Vette73]

I say get a Athlon XP-Mobile

Cheap and can over clock VERY fast

 

[Avalon]

I agree, get a mobile barton

 

[clarkey01]

Yeah don?t bother with Intel, maybe if you got a burning desire to go back to them then I recommend a 2.8C, don?t bother with Prescott, unless you plan to cook your meals over it. Northwood?s a better choice, a 2.8C often hits 3.5 Easy.

AMD wise, the mobile 2500+ is a far cheaper and better choice plus overclocks like a dream.

Can I ask you use for pc for ?

Game wise = AMD

Price/performance ratio=AMD

Encoding = Intel

Room Heater =Intel (summers coming so be careful all you Prescott owners) lol

 

[Falloutboy]

in all honesty a 2200 is not that slow. I'd try overclocking it for the time being and wait till end of the year when you get a little more upgrade for your money. I recently upgraded from a 1800 running at stock speeds a SDRAM too a Mobile 2400@ 2.5ghz and honestly I can't really notice much of a difference unless i'm doing something like encoding video.

 

[envelopment28]

I wouldn't go any less than 3.0 either, and if you look on the latest benchmarks in the article about the 2800 you will will see that out of 25 benchmarks the intel 3.0C beats the 64bit 3000, 16 to 9. Yes 16 of the tests. I was interested in this because me any my work buddy built our own computers and he just can't understand why he's not winning in the benchmarks. Also he will overclock to 225fsb but doesn't have the balls to run prime95. I can overclock to 235 fsb and pass a 20hr. prime95. Basically with my limited experience i would reccomend a intel.

 

[SickBeast]

why not just drop a mobile barton in your current motherboard?

 

[MysticX23]

Well, if you have the money, I'd get the 2.4C. Easily oc's to 3.2, 3.3 without a sweat. Not to mention Hyperthreading!

 

[kojak61]

Thanks for all the feedback. The board I have is not a good overclocker. It is a Epox 8K5A2+. The best stable speed I have got is 134mhz, it will stay stable for a while at 136@1.8v. I am using Mushkin 2700 ram. I thought about a moblie barton, but not sure how if it will work.

 

[DeeKnow]

Originally posted by: kojak61
Problem is a 2ghz p4 is cheaper than a 3000xp or 64 chip.
Also performance wise the p4 looks like a better buy. I am in a dililema, oh,what is I to do?

I'd say you start by comparing apples to apples...

P4 2ghz and 3000XP???? I don't get it

 

[JBT]

wtf is the 2Ghz p4 all about those things sucked... for any decent performance you need atleast a 2.4C with 800FSB...

 

[DeeKnow]

Originally posted by: JBT
any decent performance you need atleast a 2.4C with 800FSB...

'decent' is open to interpretation ... I'm happily editing video on a 450 MHx PIII

 

[justly]

Originally posted by: envelopment28
I wouldn't go any less than 3.0 either, and if you look on the latest benchmarks in the article about the 2800 you will will see that out of 25 benchmarks the intel 3.0C beats the 64bit 3000, 16 to 9. Yes 16 of the tests. I was interested in this because me any my work buddy built our own computers and he just can't understand why he's not winning in the benchmarks. Also he will overclock to 225fsb but doesn't have the balls to run prime95. I can overclock to 235 fsb and pass a 20hr. prime95. Basically with my limited experience i would reccomend a intel.

Good to see you can count, now try some deductive reasoning.

Nine of those 16 are synthetic sysmark tests that allways seem to favor Intel, so how much does that tell you about real world performance?

Those DirectX 9 performance results are impresive aren't they, we sure can tell a lot from a videocard limited benchmark that has a .1 fps lead for Intel over AMD between the processors you mention.

If you where to actually look at the benchmarks you would see that both those processors are very competitive, each with its own strengths, instead of counting benchmark wins on a rewiew that have little to actually do with making a purchasing decission. :roll:

 

[smahoney]

I am willing to bet that the original post of 2GHz was a typo and he meant 3GHz.

 

[Badjokesben]

I don't believe is a typo because the 3.0 P4 is not cheaper that an Athlon Xp 3000+.

 

[Lyfer]

Originally posted by: envelopment28
I wouldn't go any less than 3.0 either, and if you look on the latest benchmarks in the article about the 2800 you will will see that out of 25 benchmarks the intel 3.0C beats the 64bit 3000, 16 to 9. Yes 16 of the tests. I was interested in this because me any my work buddy built our own computers and he just can't understand why he's not winning in the benchmarks. Also he will overclock to 225fsb but doesn't have the balls to run prime95. I can overclock to 235 fsb and pass a 20hr. prime95. Basically with my limited experience i would reccomend a intel.

Those were benchmarks that are known to run faster on the P4. THrow in some more benchmarks that favors the A64 and your even. The best explanation is still:

Game wise = AMD

Price/performance ratio=AMD

Encoding = Intel

BTW...NF3 250GB boards are gearing up to hit the stores soon, these boards feature PCI/AGP lock which should allow most a64 3000 to easily attain 2.2ghz with some decent RAM.

 

[Cashmoney995]

Intel is always more expensive. 2.4 you say? Overclock you say? How about this, you can get a mobile, or a regular XP and buy a 50$ heatsink, still save 50$ and overclock it to beat the living day lights out of any intel chip. Intel is a rip off. It's not that it doesnt do anything, its just that AMD is cheaper, and allows you to OC in a much more elated environment

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Lyfer

Originally posted by: envelopment28
I wouldn't go any less than 3.0 either, and if you look on the latest benchmarks in the article about the 2800 you will will see that out of 25 benchmarks the intel 3.0C beats the 64bit 3000, 16 to 9. Yes 16 of the tests. I was interested in this because me any my work buddy built our own computers and he just can't understand why he's not winning in the benchmarks. Also he will overclock to 225fsb but doesn't have the balls to run prime95. I can overclock to 235 fsb and pass a 20hr. prime95. Basically with my limited experience i would reccomend a intel.

Those were benchmarks that are known to run faster on the P4. THrow in some more benchmarks that favors the A64 and your even. The best explanation is still:

Game wise = AMD

Price/performance ratio=AMD

Encoding = Intel

BTW...NF3 250GB boards are gearing up to hit the stores soon, these boards feature PCI/AGP lock which should allow most a64 3000 to easily attain 2.2ghz with some decent RAM.

Actually the NF3 250 boards are already out. Go to newegg and search.