To everyone who thinks that LIMIT == Suggested

EMPshockwave82

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I'm not saying that I do not speed because that would be a lie. I generally go at least 5 over the limit at any given time if not more. If the flow is at 15 over then that's my speed as well. I try to be in the middle ground somewhere.

Now with all that aside the speed limit does not mean that it's the suggested speed. Nor does it mean that speed is the minimum. If the speed limit is 65 that means that the maximum speed that you should be going is 65. Yes, you can probably get away with 70 or 75 pretty easily. However, this does not mean that 75 is the new "limit". It only means that you didn't get caught or no one cares.

This can be applied to any lane on the road, passing or not. SPEED LIMIT 65 means just that, anything over 65 is disobeying the law and could be subject to a ticket. When you get said ticket for being a "courteous driver" or obeying "lane etiquette" by speeding up to move over, just remember that you still broke the law and it's your own fault. Not anyone elses. Not the "stupid cops fault" for writing you a ticket. It's your own fault and no one elses.

Once again let me state that I do NOT drive 65 in a 65. I have gotten 2 speeding tickets in my life and been pulled over 3 times total. I dont sit there and argue with the cop. I as what I did and if I did it then by god write me the ticket. Will I be angry? Sure I will, but it's MY FAULT.

Take responsability for your own actions. If you do something wrong dont pawn it off on someone else and make them take the blame. I see it all the time and it's not just with police officers.

Rant off


EDIT: posted a few down
Sadly you are right. However the rules of the ROAD state that the rules for the LEFT LANE are the exact same as the rules for the RIGHT LANE. Sad how everone forgets that and thinks that "passing lane" means "speeding allowed lane."

EDIT 2: I 100% agree that the passing lane should be used for only passing and not "tracking" as i've heard it called. Get over, do your business, get back over to the right.
 

Goosemaster

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LOL..in VA it is illegal to speed..and yet it is illegal not to drive safe by speeding when everyone else is

LOL@ my state on that one
 

EyeMWing

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This thread will degenerate into a flamewar about the true rules of the left lane, guaranteed.
 

EMPshockwave82

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
This thread will degenerate into a flamewar about the true rules of the left lane, guaranteed.

Sadly you are right. However the rules of the ROAD state that the rules for the LEFT LANE are the exact same as the rules for the RIGHT LANE. Sad how everone forgets that and thinks that "passing lane" means "speeding allowed lane."
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
This thread will degenerate into a flamewar about the true rules of the left lane, guaranteed.

Haha, just like you mentioned in the other thread.

But really..the left lane is for passing. You pass the slower cars on the right, then get back over, as needed. If someone comes up behind you while you are in the left lane, then get over so they can continue on their way.

It really is simple.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
This thread will degenerate into a flamewar about the true rules of the left lane, guaranteed.

Sadly you are right. However the rules of the ROAD state that the rules for the LEFT LANE are the exact same as the rules for the RIGHT LANE. Sad how everone forgets that and thinks that "passing lane" means "speeding allowed lane."

What? Are you one of those people who doesn't change lanes when someone is obviously trying to pass you?
 

mb

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I would say "no sh1t" but sadly it seems a lot of people don't know these simple facts.
 

EMPshockwave82

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
This thread will degenerate into a flamewar about the true rules of the left lane, guaranteed.

Sadly you are right. However the rules of the ROAD state that the rules for the LEFT LANE are the exact same as the rules for the RIGHT LANE. Sad how everone forgets that and thinks that "passing lane" means "speeding allowed lane."

What? Are you one of those people who doesn't change lanes when someone is obviously trying to pass you?

No. If I'm not in immediate pass position I'm always to the right. I also speed up when I'm passing and see someone coming up on me quickly. I'm just saying it's not legal to do so.
 

EMPshockwave82

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It's not this forum. This forum just reminds me of day to day things I hear. People complaining about getting in trouble for something they did wrong. Getting into fights because someone called them a girl.

Things that people complain about on here have a tendency to repeat themselves in my day to day conversation with others. The forums are just an outlet of my hostility on occasion.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
This thread will degenerate into a flamewar about the true rules of the left lane, guaranteed.

Sadly you are right. However the rules of the ROAD state that the rules for the LEFT LANE are the exact same as the rules for the RIGHT LANE. Sad how everone forgets that and thinks that "passing lane" means "speeding allowed lane."

What? Are you one of those people who doesn't change lanes when someone is obviously trying to pass you?

No. If I'm not in immediate pass position I'm always to the right. I also speed up when I'm passing and see someone coming up on me quickly. I'm just saying it's not legal to do so.

So you are just saying it isn't legal to speed?

Who disagrees with that?
 

magomago

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I have driven on the highway in the middle lane going 70 MPH, and it isn't uncommon to watch cops speed by in the far left lane at probably 80-90 MPH. I thin a lot of it is common sense. I've seen guys get pulled over going 65, but they were weaving like crazy...at the same time if you are going 100 and burning everyone near you I would expect you to be pulled over. But if the flow of your lane is 80 miles, and the lanes to your right are going ~70ish, its a healthy speed.

Though it is supposed to be a "passing lane", people treat it as the "fast lane". Hell, I learned that in driving school!

Anyways, a cop who pulls you over on the highway for speeding when the rest of the traffic is going around the same speed is stupid.

Oh, that and I see somone trying to drive 60MPH in the left lane as a greater hazard than someone going at 80MPH
 

JRock

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Wow us NYers would eat you for lunch... Stay off our roads unless you do 15-20+ OVER POSTED! ;)
 

KK

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How I view speeding tickets is for everyone I have gotten, there's been atleast 10000 times I haven't got caught. So I don't mind paying couple hundred dollars every 10000 or so times speeding. My last speeding ticket was just a few weeks ago, the last one before that was atleast seven years ago.
 

acemcmac

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as long as you get out of the way at your next possible opportunity when I'm smoking up the left lane, I'd happily agree that we should worship cheese...

people who hog the left lane for no reason at all, only to speed up while I try to go around on the right need to go to hell....
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
LOL..in VA it is illegal to speed..and yet it is illegal not to drive safe by speeding when everyone else is

LOL@ my state on that one

So has anyone ever gotten a ticket for driving at exactly the speed limit when others were passing by him?
 

acemcmac

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Originally posted by: KK
How I view speeding tickets is for everyone I have gotten, there's been atleast 10000 times I haven't got caught. So I don't mind paying couple hundred dollars every 10000 or so times speeding. My last speeding ticket was just a few weeks ago, the last one before that was atleast seven years ago.

amen brotha
 

morley

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thats why its called a limit, because its the maximum speed allowed. it seems pretty obvious to me.
 

JRock

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Originally posted by: morley
thats why its called a limit, because its the maximum speed allowed. it seems pretty obvious to me.

fvck that... limits are more like guidelines... they a flexable to an extent... how flexable is up to you... ;)