@Icecold
I think you misunderstood my point. I didn't quoted, mentioned anything about what was said on FB's forum. What i meant from what I was saying ... was only from this thread.
I quoted what was said here in this thread
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...involved-in-fb-sprints.2592105/#post-40471007 highlighted with bold letters.
and again here
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...involved-in-fb-sprints.2592105/#post-40471114 also in this thread.
Maybe i chose the wrong choice of words for "accusing", but it was close. There are 25 teams in league 1 and at least the top 10 teams are active in FB. Why do you only brought us into the conversation? Because XS and TSBT are friends? What did you try to implied?
You've said you didn't call out XS publicly. Let me ask you, is this board private or public? Yet you've put us into a situation like we knew everything but didn't acknowledged it.
"Then this happens,
and nobody from XS or TSBT has acknowledged it's wrong"
To me, it does sound like you want XS to admit something. I was going to stay out of all of this because I've been having a lot going on my plate with RL. But when I read that I felt like XS got pulled into the situation for no reason.
Then you brought up the team hopping.Which is a completely different conversation that could never end. I've never denied that we didn't do team hopping. In fact, I've announced which team i was going to crunch BEFORE the pentathlon started. Sure, we tried to help TSBT to beat you guys in Dec. Did we succeed? y'all won, so why not enjoy it and move on?
When 2021 started, a bunch of y'all jumped on "a team" (i won't name it) on WEP. Was it just helping out of the blue? or was it repaying the favor?
I'm sure you guys meant no harm, but since you guys kept saying we're hurting this and that. Did you guys think about when you did that, you guys officially hurted the smaller teams on league 2?
There's that silver line that sometime we as a human often overlooked.Sometime we just want to help our friends, or paying some respect or return a favor or whatever it is. But the process may never always be right. That's just one example i want to show, not particularly picking on someone or team. The Scole's story you talked about, i'll have to find out what happened.
"It's complete nonsense to think that you guys can hop between TSBT and XS on most competitions, but then when TSBT is caught with the hand in the cookie jar act like XS is a totally separate thing."
It's also funny to me that you can identified who jumped where and you can not see XS and TSBT are 2 teams? (except for Pecos's situation, most of you didn't know)
You brought up "JTFranklin (whoever he is)" ... convenient eh? so just some hero jump out of the woods? C'mon man
You can change your crunching name, you can hide your machines. But there are ways to identify who's who in this little Boinc's world.
Now, I can't say if you know him. Just like I can't say what was going on at TSBT with the Sprint. But i'm sure WE (meaning XS, TSBT and your top guys whoever recruited him or asked him for a favor) all know who he is. I don't want to put his name out because 1) i can't say it for sure 2) I don't want to drag another team into the mess. 3) it was over, done deal. Move on
A guy used his company's resources to beat us brought back memories why we team hopping in the first place. That's all i'm saying.
Now, with SV (Systemviper) and the gridcoin thing. I also want to clear up this a bit. SV is kinda new to Boinc. He's not new to XS, but he's new to Boinc. He didn't fully understand the terms "cruncher" and "miner". All he did was trying to recruited some new members for XS, which we really appreciated his efforts, but he completely messed up when he attached XS with Gridcoin. We chewed on his azz and explained things to him. Hence why you see him quiet on the FB's forum. But he's been doing a great job with his SC's position and I'm proud of him. His choice of words sometimes also quite confusing, so be warned. (shit i'm going to get chew for this ... not that I'm any better lol)
The thing I didn't like about gridcoin was their pools. I mean users spent years and years of hard crunching to archived a top spot on their favorite project. Lots of time, efforts, money were put into it. Only to be wiped out by grc pools. Not only i'm happy to see GRC removed from FB, but i also would want to see all the stats sites or Boinc put in some kind of filters to separated "user" and "group" or something. A pool or university should never be counted as a "user".
Then to this "suggest us all jumping in on Planet 3D Now". Look, i'm not going to argue about team hopping. Do what you want to do. But then don't act like you haven't done it and drag somebody else into the shit show. If you can help P3D beat us, congratulation P3D! I have no problem with that. Now let's get on with the battle.
I'll be offline for a bit to get some fresh air and rethink about what was i signed up for. Competitions or Science or eggo? Is it worth it? or just throwing money away? No worries, my machines still crunch, but i'll stay away from the forums for a while until i figure out what i want to do.
Cheers and stay safe!