To anyone who thinks nVidia's colors are washed out

firewolfsm

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I'm always hearing people complain that the colors with nVidia are "washed out" or not as vibrant as ATi. All you have to do is go to the color correction tab in the drivers and turn up the Digital Vibrance.
 

CKXP

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i prefer keep it on "low" makes a nice difference, setting it to "high" can be a eye sore
 

CaiNaM

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dv "fixing it" is a matter of opinion. i feel it overcompensates a little too much, and wish the adj were more incremental.
 

xtknight

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Why? It clips off the end of the color scale like this. Mess with your gamma to even out the steps instead. Trust me, you'll be more pleased with the results, and your images will still retain detail. Also though it may be an argument with VGA how would there be any difference with DVI? I'm not being combative, I'm just really wondering. My impression was that it was either "an image" or "no image".
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: xtknight
Why? It clips off the end of the color scale like this. Mess with your gamma to even out the steps instead. Trust me, you'll be more pleased with the results, and your images will still retain detail. Also though it may be an argument with VGA how would there be any difference with DVI? I'm not being combative, I'm just really wondering. My impression was that it was either "an image" or "no image".

You've got way too much DV in that image. I think I ended up with mine on somewhere between 3 and 6 in the new school NVIDIA CP. Looked much better than default.
 

Gstanfor

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Anyone who thinks nvidia's color is "washed out" in the first place needs to schedule an appointment with their eye doctor.

None of my cards have ever had any trouble whatsoever reproducing Pantone colors (and if you don't know what Pantone is you have no business discussing color quality in the first place...)

I don't use DV either. used to try it on low in games back when I had my GF3 though.
 

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Originally posted by: firewolfsm
I'm always hearing people complain that the colors with nVidia are "washed out" or not as vibrant as ATi. All you have to do is go to the color correction tab in the drivers and turn up the Digital Vibrance.
And then enable Avivo Color on ATI cards, there we go, we're back to where we started :p
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Anyone who thinks nvidia's color is "washed out" in the first place needs to schedule an appointment with their eye doctor.

None of my cards have ever had any trouble whatsoever reproducing Pantone colors (and if you don't know what Pantone is you have no business discussing color quality in the first place...)

I don't use DV either. used to try it on low in games back when I had my GF3 though.

I don't have a damn clue what pantone colors are and I really don't care. What I do care about is how the colors look. I.E. overly saturated, or not bright enough, paled out. You don't have to have a "college degree" in color to know whether your colors look washed out or not. I love the DV option. I only use the very first notch and it gives me that little "ahhhh" eye candyish look. Just a little.

 

Gstanfor

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Pantone is a well established (in use since the 1960's) professional color calibration standard. A color calibration system describes how a particular color is supposed to look (something you say you care about).

Frankly, most people who work with color for a living will tell you that ATi's color is overdone.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Pantone is a well established (in use since the 1960's) professional color calibration standard. A color calibration system describes how a particular color is supposed to look (something you say you care about).

Frankly, most people who work with color for a living will tell you that ATi's color is overdone.

That something that I care about, is how the color looks, to me. And BTW, ATI's color is just fine as well. I have owned, and currently own various ATI cards that appear to have very nice default colors. So do my Nvidia cards. I just like to play with the DV slider is all.

BTW, thanks for the lesson, er.. wikipedia definition of Pantone. I will sleep much better tonight knowing that I learned something today. ;)

 

bruceb

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I have a GeForce TI500 with the Nvidia Drivers on a Dell 17 inch Trintron Monitor
It is all set to factory specs as far as colors ... all very good colors
 

BFG10K

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I've never had a problem with stock colours on either nVidia or ATi cards and I've never used DV.
 

ProviaFan

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If you just play games and browse the intarweb, then using a bit (or a lot, as long as I don't have to look at it) of Digital Vibrance is ok. However, if you're viewing or editing photos (especially ones that you'll end up sending to others), then DV needs to be OFF. This isn't really the place for a lecture on color management (the majority doesn't care, as evidenced by the obsession with DV), but even if you don't need the most accurate colors, the least you could do for the sake of those who view the works you create is to not intentionally screw up your colors.
 

T9D

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The stock settings on Nvidia have for years been slightly to bright and washed out a bit.

I'm not sure about ATI though because I've only had a 9700 and cant remember right now. I remember way back when I had like a geforce 2 and I went over to my friends house and we had the same wallpaper. He had a voodoo 5. I saw how his looked and I was shocked it looked so much nicer. I couldn't figure out why. So I went home and all it took was turning down the brightness a tad and turning up the sharpness a bit.

I've had to do that every single nvidia card. But also the monitors I think have a lot to do with it. They always set factory monitor settings so bright right out of the box. I think this is so when it's on the store shelf display it catches peoples attention more. Because it looks more vibrant next to the next one.

That's the first thing I do is do some slight adjusting. That's why they provide all the adjustments in the drivers or on a monitor. Dont know why people are like taking it personal. It's to be expected. I just liked how my friends voodoo card came already set at good levels though. Seriously plugging everything in and just leaving the stock settings is not good. They make them to bright to sell more in stores, dont leave them like that it never looks it's best.
 

Gstanfor

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Well, factory defaults are not retail store defaults.

Also, you should always calibrate your monitor properly since the lighting conditions the monitor is used in will be different for most people. The video card on the other hand shouldn't be touched unless you *like* your colors psychadelic.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Well, factory defaults are not retail store defaults.

Also, you should always calibrate your monitor properly since the lighting conditions the monitor is used in will be different for most people. The video card on the other hand shouldn't be touched unless you *like* your colors psychadelic.


Highlighted above: W.......T.........H........ are you talking about?

Calibrate? Please, Gstanfor. Never had to, nor do I think I will ever need to. ATI or Nvidia cards.
 

Gstanfor

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I'm talking about monitors, not video cards. Why do you keep quoting me in this thread? None of my comments have been aimed at you except when replying to a post of yours...
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Well, factory defaults are not retail store defaults.

Also, you should always calibrate your monitor properly since the lighting conditions the monitor is used in will be different for most people. The video card on the other hand shouldn't be touched unless you *like* your colors psychadelic.

You're exactly right. When you mess with gamma on the video card, you are restricting your overall color gamut.

Differences only apply to VGA until someone shows a diff picture of DVI between the two GPU companies.
 

TheRyuu

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Turn down gamma+digital vibrance.

I turn down the gamma to ~.88 since my VX2025 is way too bright even on lower settings. Then I turn up digital vibrance just a tad. It's perfect now.
 

Gstanfor

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xtknight, you too? Care to show me where in this thread I advised anyone to adjust video card gamma?