To all liberals and those who oppose the war, come in here!

[Passions]

If some among you fear taking a stand because you are afraid of reprisals from customers, clients, or even government, recognize that you are just feeding the crocodile hoping he'll eat you last.
--Ronald Reagan

America was not built on fear. America was built on courage, on imagination, and unbeatable determination to do the job at hand.
--Harry S. Truman

Four freedoms: The first is freedom of speech and expression - everywhere in the world. The second is freedom of everyone to worship God in his own way, everywhere in the world. The third is freedom from want . . . everywhere in the world. The fourth is freedom from fear . . . anywhere in the world.
--Franklin D. Roosevelt

Take time to deliberate, but when the time for action arrives, stop thinking and go in.
--Andrew Jackson

Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
--John F. Kennedy

 

Very nice!
john

 

[PlatinumGold]

oh ya, everyone that opposes war does so out of fear. :roll:

and everyone that supports the war does so out of courage. :roll: :roll:

 

[tallest1]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
oh ya, everyone that opposes war does so out of fear. :roll:

and everyone that supports the war does so out of courage. :roll: :roll:

ROFL!!

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
oh ya, everyone that opposes war does so out of fear. :roll:

and everyone that supports the war does so out of courage. :roll: :roll:

Yeah...pretty much

 

[InfectedMushroom]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
oh ya, everyone that opposes war does so out of fear. :roll:

and everyone that supports the war does so out of courage. :roll: :roll:

of course. i mean we all know how courageous bush was when he served in vietnam, don't we?

 

[Zephyr106]

Thanks for the uplifting quotes. The imminent threat of Iraq's chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons, which could strike the US east coast in 45 minutes, really had me fearful.

Zephyr

 

[Passions]

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
oh ya, everyone that opposes war does so out of fear. :roll:

and everyone that supports the war does so out of courage. :roll: :roll:

of course. i mean we all know how courageous bush was when he served in vietnam, don't we?

At least he doesn't lie about his medals. OOOOOOH MOTED!

 

[Zephyr106]

Originally posted by: Passions

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
oh ya, everyone that opposes war does so out of fear. :roll:

and everyone that supports the war does so out of courage. :roll: :roll:

of course. i mean we all know how courageous bush was when he served in vietnam, don't we?

At least he doesn't lie about his medals. OOOOOOH MOTED!

IIRC the military doesn't give medals for cocaine consumption?

Zephyr

 

[TekChik]

Originally posted by: Zephyr106

Originally posted by: Passions

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
oh ya, everyone that opposes war does so out of fear. :roll:

and everyone that supports the war does so out of courage. :roll: :roll:

of course. i mean we all know how courageous bush was when he served in vietnam, don't we?

At least he doesn't lie about his medals. OOOOOOH MOTED!

IIRC the military doesn't give medals for cocaine consumption?

Zephyr

but there IS something to be said for HONESTY in electing a country's leader!
Bush never lied about it when asked...didnt try to cover it up.

 

[Zephyr106]

Originally posted by: TekChik

Originally posted by: Zephyr106

Originally posted by: Passions

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
oh ya, everyone that opposes war does so out of fear. :roll:

and everyone that supports the war does so out of courage. :roll: :roll:

of course. i mean we all know how courageous bush was when he served in vietnam, don't we?

At least he doesn't lie about his medals. OOOOOOH MOTED!

IIRC the military doesn't give medals for cocaine consumption?

Zephyr

but there IS something to be said for HONESTY in electing a country's leader!
Bush never lied about it when asked...didnt try to cover it up.

Bush admitted to using cocaine? Drug use is indicative of a character flaw, kind of like being liberal. Surely our Godly Leader doesn't have any character flaws?

Zephyr

 

[TekChik]

Originally posted by: Zephyr106

Originally posted by: TekChik

Originally posted by: Zephyr106

Originally posted by: Passions

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
oh ya, everyone that opposes war does so out of fear. :roll:

and everyone that supports the war does so out of courage. :roll: :roll:

of course. i mean we all know how courageous bush was when he served in vietnam, don't we?

At least he doesn't lie about his medals. OOOOOOH MOTED!

IIRC the military doesn't give medals for cocaine consumption?

Zephyr

but there IS something to be said for HONESTY in electing a country's leader!
Bush never lied about it when asked...didnt try to cover it up.

Bush admitted to using cocaine? Drug use is indicative of a character flaw, kind of like being liberal. Surely our Godly Leader doesn't have any character flaws?

Zephyr

yes, he did. and his life CHANGED when he became a Christian...maybe you should watch the PBS special...that's why he has no problem admitting it. he knows that as a changed person, he can be proud of who he is NOW, not try to figure out what he stands for every other day.

 

[biostud]

If some among you fear taking a stand because you are afraid of reprisals from customers, clients, or even government, recognize that you are just feeding the crocodile hoping he'll eat you last.
--Ronald Reagan

I really don't understand why anyone in US should have been afraid of Saddam Hussein. He hasn't been into terrorism outside Iraq, his military was totally crippled and even if he had some biological weapons he couldn't hit US even if he wanted to.

America was not built on fear. America was built on courage, on imagination, and unbeatable determination to do the job at hand.
--Harry S. Truman

Then the question is: Was it the real job to do?

Four freedoms: The first is freedom of speech and expression - everywhere in the world. The second is freedom of everyone to worship God in his own way, everywhere in the world. The third is freedom from want . . . everywhere in the world. The fourth is freedom from fear . . . anywhere in the world.
--Franklin D. Roosevelt

I agree on all of them and, but how we should achieve these goals can be discussed. But I really like the 3rd one, specially when you think about what Iraq holds in its soil.

Take time to deliberate, but when the time for action arrives, stop thinking and go in.
--Andrew Jackson

Yet, again I can be discussed if it "was the time for acrion"

Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
--John F. Kennedy

AFAIK Iraq has never attacked US, or inteded to do so.

 

[Bowmaster]

Yes, and he wants ALL OF US to change and think JUST LIKE HIM!!! He just can't get it through his pea-sized brain that there are (GASP!!!) people with opinions different from his. The current administration is of the opinion that you're either totally with them, or you're a dirty traitor.

Not thanks. I just wish I could vote for someone other than Kerry. But I WILL vote for Kerry over the Bush Theocracy.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: TekChik

Originally posted by: Zephyr106

Originally posted by: Passions

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
oh ya, everyone that opposes war does so out of fear. :roll:

and everyone that supports the war does so out of courage. :roll: :roll:

of course. i mean we all know how courageous bush was when he served in vietnam, don't we?

At least he doesn't lie about his medals. OOOOOOH MOTED!

IIRC the military doesn't give medals for cocaine consumption?

Zephyr

but there IS something to be said for HONESTY in electing a country's leader!
Bush never lied about it when asked...didnt try to cover it up.

Drink up...you have some Kool-Aid left in your cup

 

[sMiLeYz]

It's funny, and kind of ironic. Bush preyed on people's "fears" to start this war, guillable people like yourself.

IRAQ HAS SCARY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION THAT COULD KILL US ANYTIME, THEY WERE BEHIND 9/11... etc

The anti war protesters had "courage" to speak out against this war.

Btw, 4/5 of those presidents you cited would never have gone to war for a dishonest reason. The 5th one im not too sure about.

 

[onelove]

oppose war on terror or war on iraq? oh nevermind, I forgot its all part of the same war. nice quotes, btw.

 

[kage69]

He hasn't been into terrorism outside Iraq,

Wrong. The takeover of the Iranian Embassy in London is certainly terrorism, and killing exiled Iraqi dissidents abroad is certainly terrorism.

AFAIK Iraq has never attacked US, or inteded to do so.

Wrong again. If plotting to assassinate the leader of a country doesn't count as attacking the country itself, I don't know what does. We have the Kuwaitis to thank for not allowing Saddam to add Bush senior to the list of assassinated Presidents.

I just wish I could vote for someone other than Kerry. But I WILL vote for Kerry over the Bush Theocracy.

Damn straight, my sentiments exactly.

 

[TekChik]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: TekChik

Originally posted by: Zephyr106

Originally posted by: Passions

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
oh ya, everyone that opposes war does so out of fear. :roll:

and everyone that supports the war does so out of courage. :roll: :roll:

of course. i mean we all know how courageous bush was when he served in vietnam, don't we?

At least he doesn't lie about his medals. OOOOOOH MOTED!

IIRC the military doesn't give medals for cocaine consumption?

Zephyr

but there IS something to be said for HONESTY in electing a country's leader!
Bush never lied about it when asked...didnt try to cover it up.

Drink up...you have some Kool-Aid left in your cup

as do you...

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: kage69

He hasn't been into terrorism outside Iraq,

Wrong. The takeover of the Iranian Embassy in London is certainly terrorism, and killing exiled Iraqi dissidents abroad is certainly terrorism.

AFAIK Iraq has never attacked US, or inteded to do so.

Wrong again. If plotting to assassinate the leader of a country doesn't count as attacking the country itself, I don't know what is. We have the Kuwaitis to thank for not allowing Saddam to add Bush senior to the list of assassinated Presidents.

I just wish I could vote for someone other than Kerry. But I WILL vote for Kerry over the Bush Theocracy.

Damn straight, my sentiments exactly.

How about something that occured in this decade?

 

[kage69]

How about something that occured in this decade?

Time does not nullify the merit of fact, sorry. Does this mean all you right-wingers want to suddenly stop harping on Kerry's war record or Clinton's term in office? I didn't think so.

In fact, none of the 5 qoutes to which this thread is based on were opined in this decade, yet here you are in here. Just stfu you mindless reactionary.

 

[CaptnKirk]

"We have nothing to fear except Bush, himself"

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
"We have nothing to fear except Bush, himself"

Bwaa haa haaa....

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: kage69

He hasn't been into terrorism outside Iraq,

Wrong. The takeover of the Iranian Embassy in London is certainly terrorism, and killing exiled Iraqi dissidents abroad is certainly terrorism.

AFAIK Iraq has never attacked US, or inteded to do so.

Wrong again. If plotting to assassinate the leader of a country doesn't count as attacking the country itself, I don't know what does. We have the Kuwaitis to thank for not allowing Saddam to add Bush senior to the list of assassinated Presidents.

I just wish I could vote for someone other than Kerry. But I WILL vote for Kerry over the Bush Theocracy.

Damn straight, my sentiments exactly.

The first was still not an attack at US/western personel, I don't know but was the attack while Iraq and Iran was at war? It's not like any of these countries had friendly governments. My point is still that Iraq would never attack US because if they did they knew the would be f*cked over. It would pretty stupid to attack US and I seriously doubt that Saddam was stupid.

Ofcourse plotting against killing the US president is a seroius crime, which should be punished, but I haven't heard this as an argument for going to war. Please enlighten me if I'm wrong.

So basically if US has plotted of ways to assasinate Kim Il-Jong it would be ok for North Korea to Attack?

 

[drewshin]

heh heh, the ones that wanted this war were the ones shaking in their boots worried about the 'grave' threat that saddam posed, and wanting to attack yesterday.

north korea though im afraid of, i wouldnt oppose that war, but i guess we'll just use a diplomatic approach while they build their 2 nukes a year, with nothing stopping them. a few years ago, they possibly had one or two, now it's believed they have nearly 8, and by the end of the decade possibly what...20? it's bush's grand "tactical" game plan, a plan of doing the reverse of what you should be doing.