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To all Laptop Makers.....

chloros

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FU until you give us better resolution. Thank you Apple and your billions to put these PC makers trying to milk as much as they can before giving us the next tech we should already have but without paying for their lavish lifestyle...........1280x800.....1366 x 768?

Seriously?

PC industry become politicians? I was just at the Apple store and looked at a 10" screen with 2048-by-1536 resolution.

WTF
 
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TY Apple? Home of the 1280x800 13.3 Macbook? or 1440x900 (better, but not ideal) 15.4 Macbook? For more money you can get 1600x1050, but it is more expensive than other company charges for screens when they are upgradeable.

I have had a Macbook pro before, and that is the LAST time I will ever have given
money to appple for a computing device.
 
TY Apple? Home of the 1280x800 13.3 Macbook? or 1440x900 (better, but not ideal) 15.4 Macbook? For more money you can get 1600x1050, but it is more expensive than other company charges for screens when they are upgradeable.

I have had a Macbook pro before, and that is the LAST time I will ever have given
money to appple for a computing device.

Yea I know right.... I don't know what OP is getting at... there are plenty of high resolution notebooks out there that just cost a lot of $$... Obviously people buying $400 and $500 laptops aren't going to spend $200 on a screen =_=

Oh wait I think I kinda see what OP wants.... a CHEAP laptop with high resolution, high gamut, wide viewing angle displays.

Don't know where apple fits into the whole 'cheap' side of things...
 
... Oh wait I think I kinda see what OP wants.... a CHEAP laptop with high resolution, high gamut, wide viewing angle displays. Don't know where apple fits into the whole 'cheap' side of things...

I think you nailed it. 🙂
 
Actually, I think he is refering to the iPad screens....

Quoting from OP : PC industry become politicians? I was just at the Apple store and looked at a 10" screen with 2048-by-1536 resolution

And that is just the iPad 3, not the previous iPad versions.....

This has nothing to do with laptop resolutions
 
apple is widely rumored to be going 'retina' on their next mbp screens. so if laptop screen resolution does take off, we'll have apple to thank. (and maybe intel's new ultrabook spec though ultrabook's an mba ripoff so we still have apple to thank)

used to be you could readily find higher res options for notebooks. but then everything got consumerfied and people started expecting $400 laptops.

there's lots of people that complain they can't see the text on screen at higher resolutions. hopefully metro will bring proper scaling to windows, though you may have to use metro exclusively to get all the benefit.
 
I actually am one of the few who hope resolution does not go Retina on laptops.

Too many pixels to drive for alot of the crappy Intel on board graphics to handle.

I think that for laptops, 1600x900 (1680x1050) and 1920x1080 are as high as they
need to go.

I don't think a Retina enabled screen is going to bring any relief on mobile computing.
 
Actually, I think he is refering to the iPad screens....

Quoting from OP : PC industry become politicians? I was just at the Apple store and looked at a 10" screen with 2048-by-1536 resolution

And that is just the iPad 3, not the previous iPad versions.....

This has nothing to do with laptop resolutions

Uh no actually OP has no idea what he is talking about... he is praising apple's ipad 3 resolution and then complaining about 1366 x 768... which is the standard laptop resolution. I highly doubt he is complaining about resolution on "pc" tablets... considering the title is "to all laptop makers". I'm guessing that OP is implying that apple is forcing the rest of the pc industry to start using higher resolution displays by using higher resolution displays in their ipads. Then there are some disconnected thoughts about how PC makers are somehow milking consumers by having only low resolution displays on their low end laptops. Perhaps there is some massive conspiracy on the part of PC makers to annoy the common consumer with low-resolution displays, and that apple is somehow being heroic and 'saving' us by putting high resolution displays in their products.

My head hurts a bit trying to follow his logic... he doesn't seem to have a point. I know this sounds somewhat cliche but OP just sounds like an apple "sheep". I mean... what exactly is his point in his post? I don't say this to be condescending, I am actually curious as to what OP is so excited about.

Here is my attempt:

FU until you give us better resolution.
OP is mad that laptops don't come in higher resolutions... except that they do

Thank you Apple and your billions to put these PC makers trying to milk as much as they can before giving us the next tech
I'll give OP the benefit of the doubt and assume he actually has a point. The only thing I can really guess is that OP believes that "PC makers" are intentionally withholding "the next tech" and that they are doing it only because they are "milk[ing]" us by making greater profits on low resolution displays.

My rebuttal would be that this doesn't make sense for many reasons. First of all, if the problem was simply money then why would they not just have the screens available as an upgrade for large amounts of money? In fact, some laptops do have high resolution displays for more money so logically OP must be mad that they don't have high resolution display upgrades for free/trivial cost... which is silly.

Second of all, even if it were possible (ignoring that it would make no business sense at all) to have higher resolution displays as free or low cost upgrades and that "PC makers" are just greedy.... well then how is Apple doing any better by charging the premium and 'forcing' people to use the higher resolution displays? I can probably make a better point but I need some more clarification to what OP means.

Lastly, the only way I can see how a reasonable person would praise apple for 'forcing' higher resolutions on all their devices is if the person truly believes that a majority of people actually want higher resolution displays and would be better off somehow but are stuck with low resolution displays ONLY because they are unaware that there is a choice - due to "PC makers" somehow forming some big conspiracy to keep the public unaware that higher resolutions are possible. I can see a bit of twisted logic in there that apple is doing good by bringing high resolution enlightenment to the ignorant masses and that, after people start seeing high resolution displays on apple devices, soon everyone will demand/buy high resolution devices as well and we will be better off as a species. But this is really stretching it..


we should already have but without paying for their lavish lifestyle...........1280x800.....1366 x 768?

Again, as said before, we DO have higher resolutions available... he can't seriously be mad that he has to pay for it, can he? What exactly is he trying to imply?

Seriously?

Yes

PC industry become politicians? I was just at the Apple store and looked at a 10" screen with 2048-by-1536 resolution.

See, his last sentence really shows a bit of his actual thought process. Again, assuming a reasonable person, it appears as though he tells us about what he saw as if to say, 'look, I told you guys, high resolutions are possible!'. Throughout his entire rant, he seems to have a tone that would indicate his belief that somehow people are being tricked into buying lower resolution displays because they are kept unaware of the possibility of higher resolutions by some big "PC maker" conspiracy. I won't go into detail as to why that's wrong; I'll wait for his reply.


Indeed
 
Uh no actually OP has no idea what he is talking about... he is praising apple's ipad 3 resolution and then complaining about 1366 x 768... which is the standard laptop resolution. I highly doubt he is complaining about resolution on "pc" tablets... considering the title is "to all laptop makers". I'm guessing that OP is implying that apple is forcing the rest of the pc industry to start using higher resolution displays by using higher resolution displays in their ipads. Then there are some disconnected thoughts about how PC makers are somehow milking consumers by having only low resolution displays on their low end laptops. Perhaps there is some massive conspiracy on the part of PC makers to annoy the common consumer with low-resolution displays, and that apple is somehow being heroic and 'saving' us by putting high resolution displays in their products.

My head hurts a bit trying to follow his logic... he doesn't seem to have a point. I know this sounds somewhat cliche but OP just sounds like an apple "sheep". I mean... what exactly is his point in his post? I don't say this to be condescending, I am actually curious as to what OP is so excited about.

Here is my attempt:


OP is mad that laptops don't come in higher resolutions... except that they do


I'll give OP the benefit of the doubt and assume he actually has a point. The only thing I can really guess is that OP believes that "PC makers" are intentionally withholding "the next tech" and that they are doing it only because they are "milk[ing]" us by making greater profits on low resolution displays.

My rebuttal would be that this doesn't make sense for many reasons. First of all, if the problem was simply money then why would they not just have the screens available as an upgrade for large amounts of money? In fact, some laptops do have high resolution displays for more money so logically OP must be mad that they don't have high resolution display upgrades for free/trivial cost... which is silly.

Second of all, even if it were possible (ignoring that it would make no business sense at all) to have higher resolution displays as free or low cost upgrades and that "PC makers" are just greedy.... well then how is Apple doing any better by charging the premium and 'forcing' people to use the higher resolution displays? I can probably make a better point but I need some more clarification to what OP means.

Lastly, the only way I can see how a reasonable person would praise apple for 'forcing' higher resolutions on all their devices is if the person truly believes that a majority of people actually want higher resolution displays and would be better off somehow but are stuck with low resolution displays ONLY because they are unaware that there is a choice - due to "PC makers" somehow forming some big conspiracy to keep the public unaware that higher resolutions are possible. I can see a bit of twisted logic in there that apple is doing good by bringing high resolution enlightenment to the ignorant masses and that, after people start seeing high resolution displays on apple devices, soon everyone will demand/buy high resolution devices as well and we will be better off as a species. But this is really stretching it..




Again, as said before, we DO have higher resolutions available... he can't seriously be mad that he has to pay for it, can he? What exactly is he trying to imply?



Yes



See, his last sentence really shows a bit of his actual thought process. Again, assuming a reasonable person, it appears as though he tells us about what he saw as if to say, 'look, I told you guys, high resolutions are possible!'. Throughout his entire rant, he seems to have a tone that would indicate his belief that somehow people are being tricked into buying lower resolution displays because they are kept unaware of the possibility of higher resolutions by some big "PC maker" conspiracy. I won't go into detail as to why that's wrong; I'll wait for his reply.



Indeed

LOL....i was completely drunk when i posted this....actually forgot about it till i saw it. Love the breakdown on my post however 🙂.
 
Actually, I think he is refering to the iPad screens....

Quoting from OP : PC industry become politicians? I was just at the Apple store and looked at a 10" screen with 2048-by-1536 resolution

And that is just the iPad 3, not the previous iPad versions.....

This has nothing to do with laptop resolutions

The problem is the op thinks an iPad is a Laptop most likely he also thinks the macbook air is a laptop.

Many users think the macbook air is a good piece of gear fast and powerful.

Try to explain to them the the cpu in it is a joke and you better have a flameproof suit. Try to tell him that the 13 inch macbook pro is faster with an ssd and some ram added for 500 dollars less.
 
LOL....i was completely drunk when i posted this....actually forgot about it till i saw it. Love the breakdown on my post however 🙂.

Well that explains why your point seemed to be jumping all over the place =P

I'm personally enjoying the high res high gamut screen on my ThinkPad W series... but what do I know?

Same, I have a 900p display on my T series and it feels uncomfortably small coming from the 1080p display I had on my xps 15. I really wanted the 1080p screen but I just couldn't justify the $170 premium over the 900p 'good enough' screen... In comparison the xps 15 1080p display was 'only' a $150 upgrade from the 768p display... a bargain by comparison.

Anyway since everyone seems to be in agreement in this thread I just wanted to throw a few things out there:

- A higher resolution display might not be the best choice for windows 7 since the OS doesn't scale nicely... I think windows 8 might be better in that regard but I can't be bothered to look it up.

- A higher resolution display uses up more power = lower battery life. The way I see it, if I'm not at home then I will probably be in a 'presentation' mode as opposed to a 'productivity' mode anyway... that's what external monitors are for =P

- A wide gamut display without proper calibration might be unsuitable for web graphics development... since your work will most likely be seen online and a majority of those people won't have wide-gamut displays

- Much like the intel vs amd thing.... sure intel/high resolution is 'nice' but the reality is most people don't need the power/resolution so it doesn't make sense for them to pay for something they never use. That is where amd/low resolution shines - $$$$

- Possible reasons why they can't just include an option for higher resolution display? Development costs, testing costs, hardware design costs, validation costs, quality assurance costs, etc... obviously the more variables you introduce the more complex and time consuming it will be. I mean even the manual will need to include extra text to address the extra option. That's why I think it wouldn't make sense to have an option for a high resolution display in a budget laptop since there is probably very little overlap between the two market segments. Like how dual-zone air conditioning isn't an option on a $10,000 car.

But don't get me wrong, I love high resolution displays. When I use my dad's laptop I wonder how he gets anything done when the start bar takes up half the screen 😀
 
Yeah.. Umm.. I'm pretty sure there are a TON of 1080p laptops out there?

http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCateg...s&Order=PRICE#


Newegg has 41 options for you 🙂
Your link shows 583 results for me, and all of them on the first page aren't even 1080p. I'm guessing you used a specific search tag but forgot to add it to the link?

To be on par with apple's "the new iPad" 9.7", a laptop of 10.1" screen would have to have at least 2048x1536 pixels (any bigger screen would have to have more to match it's 264 ppi), and the best resolution I've ever seen so far on a 10.1" laptop was 1280x720 (Acer Aspire One 522).

So as the OP said, I think laptops in general have a long way to go still to match this. 😛

Here's an interesting article:
Retina Laptops Coming in 2013
http://liliputing.com/2012/04/asus-zenbook-prime-ultrabook-with-1080p-screen-spotted.html
 
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