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To All AMD Palomino Users

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thermite88

Golden Member
Did you measure the CPU temperature using the on-die thermal diode?

If yes, what MB do you use? What is the measurement?

If no, what seem to be the problem?
 


<< wait.. palomino's out for desktop already..?! :Q >>


Some people are using Athlon MP's (Palomino core).
 
And isn't the Palo, (i.e. the BAdly named Althon4) out for Notebooks too, Cuz we've been selling the HP one for about a 2 weeks now.
 
I am using an Athlon 4, but the only board I know of to date that will read the internal thermal diodes temperature reading is the Tyan board. Right now, I am using the non-accurate in socket thermistor, but I just picked up a Digital Doc 5 and I will be using that on the core's surface. The new cores do run significantly cooler, probably due to the larger surface area of the core.
 
Question for all:

Is there really goign to be an Athlon4 for desktop?

Or are the Athlon MP's already doing that job?
 


<< Question for all:

Is there really goign to be an Athlon4 for desktop?

Or are the Athlon MP's already doing that job? >>



Yep, there will be. The AthlonMP is meant strictly for the server/workstation market.
The mainstream consumer version of the Palomino will be released in August.
 
< Did you measure the CPU temperature using the on-die thermal diode? (in bold)

If yes, what MB do you use? What is the measurement?

If no, what seem to be the problem? >

Is it just me or can you sense a tone in just this guys writing??? Who says there is a problem. This is a feature that needs to be supported by the motherboard and currently the only motherboard going to do this is the tyan (ofcourse you probably already knew this!!!), and not many people are ready to throw done the 450-500 bucks plus the expensive new PS. Many are running existing mobos with bios updates, but clearly do not support all the features of the chip.

If you are going to go on one of your rants on socket a inaccuracies and athlons suck cause there are so damn hot...SPARE US!!!

If not I apologize, but I sense I am not. I have seen how you act in other threads...
 
I agree, the internal diode does not work with what I have used them on. The 1GHz kind of suck too, only going to 1.45GHz or so. 😉
 
Correct me if im wrong, but to those of you asking, the MP and the Athlon 4 will be exactly the same aside from default clock speed and, related to that, stepping quality. I imagine they will be using a higher clockable stepping for the Athlon 4s compared to the MPs of today, seeing as the MPs arent going past 1.6GHz
 
In Anand's article he covers that. I think he says something like, the MP's are &quot;server optimized&quot;.. same core and everything, but basically like the Xeons to the pentium I think.
/me goes to look it up.

Dammit, I can't find the article. Basically, the MP's are sold to the server market, they are the same as the future palomino, except that maybe they are more stringently tested or something, and labelled MP. Where's Pabster.. ??
 
Yah, i dont see the point of releasing the same CPU in 2 different names.

If the MP had 512L2 cache or something, I would undertand, but it looks like they are going to be the same.

you guys think AMD will be able to &quot;get away&quot; with releasing the same CPU's but one being priced higher based on stressful tests?
 
Hmm.. well isn't that the point. Athlon4 = AthlonMP right now, but in the future they will have MP's with more cache, while the Athlon 4 stays with the same cache size for the consumer market. It's the same thing with the Xeon.
 
Why release the same chip under 2 names? Well, ask Intel, they'll release Tualatin in probably nine different forms/names.
 
One other thing, I think you guys are forgetting another important benefit of the thermal diode, even if the motherboard does not support it. It should shut down the chip if it overheats...no more cooked Athlon's due to incorrect HSF installs or the occasional &quot;I thought I would try to run it without the HSF first...just to make sure it works.&quot; 😉
 
Duvie,

There is absolutely no excuse to crap other people's thread the way you did.

To the serious hobbyist, knowing the CPU temperature accurately is essential. There is nothing wrong in trying to find a MB that supports thermal diode and not in the $500 range. The fact that you don't care about this feature should not prevent others from caring about it.

The Tyan board has hardware support for the thermal diode, but there is no software that support the Tyan board to read CPU temperature. The situation can change any moment. The fact that you are not informed should not prevent others from getting the info.

Everyone else on this thread has treat this topic openly and honestly except your post.
 
I would like to add a follow-up question to this thread:

Does the Athlon MP have PowerNow! on die like the mobile Athlon 4, or did they remove it for the Athlon MP?
 
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