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Tivo2 vs Replay tv

sciencewhiz

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Which one has more functionality if you don't subscribe to thier service? Can you even do anything without subscribing?

Last I knew, tivo was making it extrememly hard to do anything without subscribing. Also, last I knew, Replay tv didn't offer a monthly subscription option. Things sure have changed in a year.

I need to get one before the Angels whip the Giants tonight...
 

Gunbuster

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This is what I have heard

Tivo for sevice quality
ReplayTV for hacking/backing up video to your puter

with that said, buy the service it really is worth it
 

Codewiz

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Originally posted by: Gunbuster
This is what I have heard

Tivo for sevice quality
ReplayTV for hacking/backing up video to your puter

with that said, buy the service it really is worth it

Ummmm, tivo is the most hacked unit. Anything and everything can be done to the Tivo's.
 

luv2chill

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I used to have one of the old Replay 3030s... it was great... I was very satisfied (as I'm sure the ebayer that buys it will be). There are some quirks to the Replay UI that could stand some improvement (conflict resolution is the biggest).

Anyway, I just bought a Replay 4540... mainly for the LAN connectivity. WOW

This thing is SO cool. As you may or may not know, the LAN-connected Replays can send and receive shows to other Replay users over the Internet. So if you forgot to tape "Six Feet Under" (or are too cheap to pay for HBO like me), you can find someone who does have it and they can program their replay to send it to you. Granted these shows are big (~500MB for a half-hour), but who cares? You will receive it all eventually and then it's on your replay as if you recorded it yourself.

Going along with that, some genius wrote a java app called DVArchive. You run this on a computer on your LAN and it simulates a replaytv unit. Meaning that it can access your replay over the LAN. You can stream shows off the replay hdd to your computer, or transfer the show entirely over (in MPEG-2 format) for archival. You can schedule the program to move shows off your replay to your computer at specific intervals (like if you want to archive all episodes of something to HDD/DVD etc.). There are tons of uses.

My favorite feature though is Commercial Advance. Replay has always had an edge over Tivo in the fine art of skipping commercials. They have a 30-second skip button (as well as the 6-second Instant Replay button), and after a while you develop a knack for knowing how many button presses of each to get through a whole commercial break.

With the new replays you don't have to (90% of the time). SonicBlue developed an algorithm to detect commercial breaks and it works like a charm. I recorded SNL last night and the replay successfully skipped every commercial break but the last one. Frankly, I am amazed at how well this feature works. When I bought the unit I thought it would be sort of gimmicky, but I stand corrected. If (for some bizarre reason) you actually do want to watch the mindless advertising simply turn off the Commerical Advance feature (the commercials are always recorded... the Commercial Advance feature does its thing during playback only).

To top it all off they improved the conflict resolution abilities in the new models. There are still some things that Tivo does better, but none of them are as important to me as the automatic commercial skipping and LAN connectivity.

The only downside is price. Replay changed their pricing model such that they require a subscription (either recurring or one-time) to stay competitive with Tivo. For absolute n00bs, I would say a Tivo is probably easier to use. But if you have any interest in the geekier aspects of these then I think Replay is your best bet.

l2c
 

ohtwell

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Tivo2 > Relplay TV

I have relpay and I hate it. I wish I had my Tivo back.


: ) Amanda
 

ohtwell

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Originally posted by: luv2chill
Originally posted by: ohtwell
Tivo2 > Relplay TV

I have relpay and I hate it. I wish I had my Tivo back.


: ) Amanda
Care to elaborate on that?

l2c

I used to have Tivo a few months ago and I loved it. Besides being pretty easy to use it had a lot of features I liked. Replay, on the other hand, is just hard for me to use. I can never get it to do what I want it to do. You can't cancel the recording of episodes unless you plan on deleting the theme channel, which would cause it to not record any of them. Tivo also wouldn't record things that it had recorded in the last few weeks. I loved that feature. Replay doesn't do that. I have Seinfeld's sitting on my Replay that were recorded within this week that I just watched not that long ago. I just liked Tivo better.


: ) Amanda
 

dolph

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tivo does make life easier for conflict resolution, true. but replay's other features (automatic commercial skip, progressive video out, network connectivity, web-based scheduling, and this winter wireless network) makes conflict resolution seem like a small bug (that sonicblue assures us will be fixed soon ;)), leaving tivo with nothing to offer over replay. point is, if you don't want to be bothered at all with your pvr, then a tivo will suffice. but if you can handle a little bit of a learning curve for all you get with replay, then that's the way to go. mac=tivo, pc=replay. take your pick.
 

narzy

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Im looking into DVR/PVR units currently and want more argument, currently what luv2chill pointed out is EXACTLY what I want from my PVR/DVR...

bump!
 

narzy

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I wanna see someone do it for the same price that you can get a 80hr Replay or Tivo TNT.
 

dolph

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Originally posted by: narzy
I wanna see someone do it for the same price that you can get a 80hr Replay or Tivo TNT.

parts for a pvr would run more than the base price of a replay or a tivo, and it wouldn't work as well (according to what i read before i bought my latest replay - i originally wanted to build a htpc with a radeon 8500dv, but it just ain't as good).
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: dolph
Originally posted by: narzy
I wanna see someone do it for the same price that you can get a 80hr Replay or Tivo TNT.

parts for a pvr would run more than the base price of a replay or a tivo, and it wouldn't work as well (according to what i read before i bought my latest replay - i originally wanted to build a htpc with a radeon 8500dv, but it just ain't as good).

kinda my point ;)
 

silent tone

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The commercial skip feature works fine on my Tivo. Although not all commercials are 30 seconds.

Well sciencewhiz, if, for some reason, you can't afford the service, I can give you a little info. My tivo has been running in boat-anchor mode for a year or two. It's a first gen unit with version 3.001 OS. Some of the things that are different:
All recordings have to use the manual menu.
The instant record button just gives you an error saying there's no guide data, so it can't record.
None of the wishlists or suggested shows functions are available.
In the now playing field it just lists the time channel and date of the recording.
Conflicts when programming a recording are difficult to understand because it can't tell you any program names.
Everytime you go to the main menu, it flashes a 'no program guide data' nag screen. This gets annoying.

There's a few glitches that I experience, I'm not sure if they're related to a lack of guide data though. I definitely recommend the service though.