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TIVO won't work with my NEW Direct TV. Help

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We are trying to hook up our TV, Tivo, DirecTV receiver, and a receiver that is VCR/DVD/surround sound in one.

I'm doing Guided Setup, and when I get to the point where I'm supposed to see video in the background, I don't see it. As far as I can tell the cables are hooked up properly, but nothing we try is working. What could I be doing wrong?

UPDATE: Never did figure out what was wrong, but it works just fine now.
 
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Make sure you are receiving a DIRECT TV receiver with TIVO.
It is a standalone unit with receiver and tivo combined.

If you are using a tivo from cable, it won't work for directv.
 
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Yes the coaxal cable runs from the dish to the Direct TV box; RCA cables go from DTV out1 to TIVO in1 DTV out2 goes into our surround sound in2; TIVO RCA out goes to our surround sound in1; the surround sound has yellow RCA out to the TV in and green red purple to the TV for DVDs.

We alrady paid for TIVO lifetime service.
 
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Originally posted by: mak16
Make sure you are receiving a DIRECT TV receiver with TIVO.
It is a standalone unit with receiver and tivo combined.

If you are using a tivo from cable, it won't work for directv.
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That makes no sense to me. I would think that would be a question which should be asked when ordering "Do you have TIVO service?"

We didn't want the DIRECTV® Receiver/Digital Video Recorder because it is an extra $5 per month for the service and we love TIVO. I have heard from ppl who had both that the TIVO service is better than DIRECT TV's DVR. So we got the small silver satellite box "model d11".

I was asking the installer how I can get TIVO to change the channels on the DTV box, I was hoping it had a serial input but we have to use the IR buds.

Is there a special TIVO compatable box that they should have given us instead?
 
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Originally posted by: HomeAppraiser
Originally posted by: mak16
Make sure you are receiving a DIRECT TV receiver with TIVO.
It is a standalone unit with receiver and tivo combined.

If you are using a tivo from cable, it won't work for directv.
Click to expand...

That makes no sense to me. I would think that would be a question which should be asked when ordering "Do you have TIVO service?"

We didn't want the DIRECTV® Receiver/Digital Video Recorder because it is an extra $5 per month for the service and we love TIVO. I have heard from ppl who had both that the TIVO service is better than DIRECT TV's DVR. So we got the small silver satellite box "model d11".

I was asking the installer how I can get TIVO to change the channels on the DTV box, I was hoping it had a serial input but we have to use the IR buds.

Is there a special TIVO compatable box that they should have given us instead?
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I know you have lifetime tivo, but that is for cable.
directv tivo has a special decoder to decode the sate signal.
Directv DVR =! Directv Tivo
Yes, Directv Tivo >> Directv DVR
 
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HomeAppraiser

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Originally posted by: mak16
Originally posted by: HomeAppraiser

Is there a special TIVO compatable box that they should have given us instead?
Click to expand...

I know you have lifetime tivo, but that is for cable.
directv tivo has a special decoder to decode the sate signal.
Directv DVR =! Directv Tivo
Yes, Directv Tivo >> Directv DVR
Click to expand...

I instructed my TIVO to switch from our local cable programing to Direct TV. It updated and transferred all of our season passes to the new channels. But we still have no picture comming thru the TIVO Series2.

I just called Direct TV and asked if I need a directv tivo box.

They said there is no such thing.

What box should they have given us? Do you have a model number?

 
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I've used both a regular TV and DirectTivos. What model number do you have, and what are the specs of your satellite system?
 
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Did you use your tivo with cable before?
If yes, it is not a tivo for Directv or Dish.
Simple as that.

And you have to pay that $5.99 fee to use Tivo with Directv.
Research a little bit on it now because Directv is changing the pricing scheme on March 1st
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: mak16
Originally posted by: HomeAppraiser
Originally posted by: mak16
Make sure you are receiving a DIRECT TV receiver with TIVO.
It is a standalone unit with receiver and tivo combined.

If you are using a tivo from cable, it won't work for directv.
Click to expand...

That makes no sense to me. I would think that would be a question which should be asked when ordering "Do you have TIVO service?"

We didn't want the DIRECTV® Receiver/Digital Video Recorder because it is an extra $5 per month for the service and we love TIVO. I have heard from ppl who had both that the TIVO service is better than DIRECT TV's DVR. So we got the small silver satellite box "model d11".

I was asking the installer how I can get TIVO to change the channels on the DTV box, I was hoping it had a serial input but we have to use the IR buds.

Is there a special TIVO compatable box that they should have given us instead?
Click to expand...



I know you have lifetime tivo, but that is for cable.
directv tivo has a special decoder to decode the sate signal.
Directv DVR =! Directv Tivo
Yes, Directv Tivo >> Directv DVR
Click to expand...

This is simply not correct. I have used a regular Tivo with Direct-TV and it worked fine.
 
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mak16

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Well, i am sure you can try using regular Tivo through RCA and do a manual schedule recording.

Or well, I may be wrong
 
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1. You will have to use the IR and it will create a noticable lag.
2. I have done this before, and a DirectTIVO is too cheap to not upgrade to.
3. The extra 5.99 is worth not having a regular tivo lagging over a DTV box. Trust me.
4. Hook the output of the DirecTV box to the input of the TIVO. Turn both off. Reboot just the DTV box. Turn on the TV. Run guided setup again. Make sure the correct input is on for the TIVO, and that the DTV Box is actually outputting a signal over whatever type of cable you are using.

This is possible to do, and I'm not sure why yours is not working.

Unless the newer generation DTV boxs don't allow an output to a tivo (can't see how it could allow an output to a TV and not a Tivo). Re-check your setup. Restart stuff. Make sure it actually outputting stuff. Re-do the guided setup.

If there is still a problem post again.

I still say dump your current tivo and get a DirectTIVO. Much better, trust me.
 
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Originally posted by: mak16
Well, i am sure you can try using regular Tivo through RCA and do a manual schedule recording.

Or well, I may be wrong
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You don't even have to do manual. Unless things changed in the past year or so (with the updated hardware) it would still pull the guide info and recording info from the DTV box, and you could use the TIVO to its full ability. Now, there was a noticable lag, however.
 
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HomeAppraiser

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Run the guided setup on directv or tivo?

Yes the cable box required a slow IR output from TIVO to correctly change the channels. I really did not want to get a new DVR until the HD units came down in price. We switched from cable to Direct TV to SAVE $15 a month ($40 a month lower for the first three months :))

This is the first I have ever heard of DirectTIVO before this. Is it tivo brand with the same service and look or a DTV knock off? Can I swap the harddrive with a larger unit?
 
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Originally posted by: DVK916
If you want the best HD you should have stuck with cable.
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Ha, I live out in the sticks. We don't even have REAL digital cable. No dvr or on demand available with cable, no cable internet, only 60 sucky channels and $80 a month with movies.

I see this maybe what I need.

I still don't understand why the RCA cables from the DTV box output to my TV but not to my TIVO.

I tried hooking the S video from the DTV box to my TIVO and got "magnetic" type distortion on my 30" theaterwide CRT TV!!! Weird.

Great my kid is watching "Lupin the Third" on the downstairs Direct TV. "Go to bed" Gotta learn how to block channels.
 
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So, you can see the TIVO setup screens on your TIVO? If so, then you need to run the setup on the TIVO after you have it hooked up.

A DirectTiVO is an integrated DirectTV receiver + TIVO. It

Make sure you have the DirectTV receiver outputting to the TIVO. Make sure the output is going to the input on the TIVO. Then, go to settings and run the TIVO setup. It should work...
 
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HomeAppraiser

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We reran setup twice

That is how the season pass channels changed

TIVO knows we are on direct tv/satellite now

I just can't get TIVO to record or display live tv

Do we have to set the Direct TV box output 1 and 2 or something tricky like that?

 
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