TITAN XP at 1080p: 35 fps on this game

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it s Risen 3, not a heavy game!

i have 35 fps with all maxed out in the starting location. 1080p

no problems on other games, so the system is perfectly fine
 

alcoholbob

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In most games 1 or 2 graphical settings are poorly optimized and kill the performance.

Also some things just haven't been done efficiently yet. In most games rain or smoke will cut fps in half.
 

psolord

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I have uploaded quite a few Risen 3 benchmarks on my channel if you are interested. The newer ones are of better quality due to digital recording with an external recorder. Sorry for the spicy wallpapers...

https://www.youtube.com/user/toutagamon/search?query=risen+3

Also try tampering with the config files and the vsync.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/249230/discussions/0/528398719796787502/

I had done something similar but I don't remember what exactly.
on the sea when you look back to the water i have 35. in your video u re over 100
 

bystander36

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There isn't a tessellation or reflection setting in that game is there? In many games, there are setting for water which have massive performance hits. I haven't played the game, but if there are sliders you'd pushed to max, you might just be pushing it beyond reason.
 

bystander36

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man it s 1080p with a titanxp. is someone else using it at 1080p? usually you have more than 200
I didn't play 3, but the reality is, a lot of games have that one setting or 2 that are crazy on the performance. We are just asking if you have turned on one of those settings like tessellation, reflections in water, SSAA or something else. Those are rarely used in any benchmark because they are not good for performance. Make sure you are comparing with the same settings. If you are, then we can look more closely at your system.
 

cmdrdredd

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As was mentioned there are sometimes settings in the game that tank performance for very little visual difference. For example in Destiny 2 I lose nearly 10 FPS in some situations at 4k when I have depth of field set to the highest setting. Setting it to High which is 1 step down doesn't look different gives me a locked 60fps.

Some common culprits are tessellation sliders, shadows, and post processing effects(motion blur, depth of field etc). However I think that at 1080p you'd be more CPU limited, but I have no experience with the game Risen 3.
 
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Insomniator

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Damn I thought you were saying a new game is coming out that actually has improved graphics :(
 

Charlie22911

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I have had horrible frame rate/time issues a while back that I ended up tracing back to MSI afterburner and Rivatuner.

When you run the game make sure you are not running any background programs including any in the system tray. If it fixes it then try reenabling them one by one until you figure it out.

You could also try checking your DPC latency to see if some driver is misbehaving.

I just don’t buy that a detail setting that is tanking that game, that’s almost insulting to the developer/publisher as it’d be a large oversight.
 

bystander36

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I have had horrible frame rate/time issues a while back that I ended up tracing back to MSI afterburner and Rivatuner.

When you run the game make sure you are not running any background programs including any in the system tray. If it fixes it then try reenabling them one by one until you figure it out.

You could also try checking your DPC latency to see if some driver is misbehaving.

I just don’t buy that a detail setting that is tanking that game, that’s almost insulting to the developer/publisher as it’d be a large oversight.

It definitely is worth checking into 3rd party software, but having a high end setting that tanks performance is not an insult, and it very common. Many games made a name for themselves by including such settings, such as Crysis and Metro 2033. Sometimes they include experimental settings. And Risen has had a history of having performance issues in the series. Not to mention, there are settings which are universal, even in the Nvidia control panel, which will tank performance. AA settings are common problems. People just don't realize they are not required, and some are just not usable except in low demanding games.
 

cmdrdredd

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I have had horrible frame rate/time issues a while back that I ended up tracing back to MSI afterburner and Rivatuner.

When you run the game make sure you are not running any background programs including any in the system tray. If it fixes it then try reenabling them one by one until you figure it out.

You could also try checking your DPC latency to see if some driver is misbehaving.

I just don’t buy that a detail setting that is tanking that game, that’s almost insulting to the developer/publisher as it’d be a large oversight.

It happens all the time. Don’t know why you think it’s not a thing
 

Charlie22911

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I didn't say it is not a thing, I am saying that I don't buy that it is the problem in this situation; we are talking about a game from 2014 running on a Titan XP at 1080p. If it truly was a poorly implemented render option, then issues would be far more prevalent and well documented and likely patched by now.

OP has an older system, so it makes more sense that over time it has collected software or background processes that may be causing issues than it does to say his Titan XP can't max the settings in a 2014 title at 1080p.

If I'm wrong then so be it, I'll learn something and own it, but don't be so quick to downplay it as an option.
 

cmdrdredd

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I didn't say it is not a thing, I am saying that I don't buy that it is the problem in this situation; we are talking about a game from 2014 running on a Titan XP at 1080p. If it truly was a poorly implemented render option, then issues would be far more prevalent and well documented and likely patched by now.

OP has an older system, so it makes more sense that over time it has collected software or background processes that may be causing issues than it does to say his Titan XP can't max the settings in a 2014 title at 1080p.

If I'm wrong then so be it, I'll learn something and own it, but don't be so quick to downplay it as an option.

Your last line...look in the mirror. It’s not an insult to say “setting shadows to ultra tank performance”.
 

Charlie22911

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Your last line...look in the mirror. It’s not an insult to say “setting shadows to ultra tank performance”.

Again, *this* situation. By all acounts a Titan XP should be more than enough to handle this title at 1080p with every detail turned up.

You have a 1080ti, so you full well know what these very high end cards are capable of; it blows my mind that you seem to be so opposed to this as a possibility.
 

bystander36

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Again, *this* situation. By all acounts a Titan XP should be more than enough to handle this title at 1080p with every detail turned up.

You have a 1080ti, so you full well know what these very high end cards are capable of; it blows my mind that you seem to be so opposed to this as a possibility.

It's hard to say. People who buy Titan XP's, often get the idea that they can go in and turn all settings to max (not just using the preset Ultra), and never have an issue. The OP has not mentioned any settings, so we have no idea what he's doing, but if he is of the type who go into the settings and just turn everything to max, he may find himself in this position. Even in a 4 year old game.
 

cmdrdredd

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It's hard to say. People who buy Titan XP's, often get the idea that they can go in and turn all settings to max (not just using the preset Ultra), and never have an issue. The OP has not mentioned any settings, so we have no idea what he's doing, but if he is of the type who go into the settings and just turn everything to max, he may find himself in this position. Even in a 4 year old game.

Exactly the point
 

cmdrdredd

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Again, *this* situation. By all acounts a Titan XP should be more than enough to handle this title at 1080p with every detail turned up.

You have a 1080ti, so you full well know what these very high end cards are capable of; it blows my mind that you seem to be so opposed to this as a possibility.

I know full well that settings CAN impact performance very, very significantly no matter the hardware. Just because I have a 1080ti doesn't mean I can run every game full out with no problems. You also seem to forget that games are coded and that code can be flawed or inefficent. Games have always done this as has been mentioned before. Metro 2033 super sampling, Witcher 2 ubersampling, Crysis 2 tessellation.
 

psolord

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I provided links above, showing my 1070 and older cards running the game maxed out just fine. It's not the card or the settings. A third party software could be the culprit, although I also used MSI Afterburner in my benchmark.

It's an UE3 game if I am not mistaken and I may had enabled the custom direct 3D option if it would be needed. I don't remember.
 

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I just can't believe all the bickering and debate over something unknown. o_O

I mean the OP last posted since May 28th, yet here we are on June 7th arguing "what ifs" . Let it die unless the OP wants to address any of the many questions asked.
 
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