Titan X

[Carfax83]

How much is known about this card, specifically when is it coming out?

I know the rumored specs, something like 3000+ SMMs, 3MB L2 cache, 384 bit bus, and 12GB of VRAM.

I've never owned a Titan card before, but I'm looking to transition back to a single card setup, and so I'll want the fastest single GPU I can get my hands on so I can get 60 FPS at 1440p with high IQ. Titan fits the bill, but the VRAM is excessive to say the least. I hope NVidia has a cheaper gaming oriented version with say 6GB of VRAM, because 12GB of VRAM would only be of use to professionals/content makers.

If Newegg goes ahead and starts issuing refunds for GTX 970s, I'll put the money towards this card provided it's coming out soon. And by soon, I mean next month or something..

If it's going to be out later in the year though or even worse, next year, then I think I'll probably just upgrade to GTX 980 SLI....although I don't really want to do that, as I'm trying to avoid multi GPU..

The 390x is also an option, but that looks like it won't be out till the middle of the year..

 

[KaRLiToS]

Why not Titan X SLI?

But seriously we don't much more than you do.

The GM200 engineering board (180-1G600-1102-A04) will use a PG600 board according to VideoCardz, and features 24 of Hynix's H5GQ4H24MFR modules, clocked at 7GHz. We have a total of 12GB of VRAM, which indicates this will be a new Titan part, and not a normal GeForce GPU. We don't know if it will be the Titan Z II, Titan Ultra, Titan II, or something else entirely, but whatever it is... it's going to be awesome

Read more at http://www.tweaktown.com/news/42910/nvidia-gm200-spotted-new-geforce-gtx-titan-ii-12gb/index.html

Same source of speculations says it will be announced at GTC 2015 (March). I expect it to release after the AMD R9 380x when the GTX 980 will fall in second spot. Then Nvidia will release that thing to counter AMD. (In my opinion)

 

[Elixer]

Highly doubt you will see that card before a 3xx release.

Though, I do find it a bit odd that that the reason you don't want the 970 is because Nvidia mislead you into buying it, but, you are going to reward them, and plunk down some premium $$$ to go with a top of a line titan card ?

I think I would just get a deal on a cheap 290X, then when the 3xx does come out, you can sell your 290X and see who has the better card then.

 

[KaRLiToS]

Though, I do find it a bit odd that that the reason you don't want the 970 is because Nvidia mislead you into buying it, but, you are going to reward them, and plunk down some premium $$$ to go with a top of a line titan card ?

Exactly what I was thinking.

 

[Carfax83]

Though, I do find it a bit odd that that the reason you don't want the 970 is because Nvidia mislead you into buying it, but, you are going to reward them, and plunk down some premium $$$ to go with a top of a line titan card ?

The reason why is because it's a certainty that the Titan X will be able to achieve high frame rates at 1440p by itself, just based on the specs. Yes, I'm ticked off at NVidia right now for misleading me, but they still make in my opinion, better overall GPUs than AMD.

I think I would just get a deal on a cheap 290X, then when the 3xx does come out, you can sell your 290X and see who has the better card then.

290x isn't an option right now for me, as I don't like the power draw and the DX11 driver CPU overhead.

380x may not be fast enough to handle 1440p, but I believe the 390x will be. If the 390x comes out before the Titan X, I'll definitely take a serious look at buying one.

AMD is back on my radar once again. The last time I had AMD in my system, was when the 4870s were out

 

[Carfax83]

Same source of speculations says it will be announced at GTC 2015 (March). I expect it to release after the AMD R9 380x when the GTX 980 will fall in second spot. Then Nvidia will release that thing to counter AMD. (In my opinion)

So when are the 380x and 390x due out?

 

[Magic Carpet]

290x isn't an option right now for me, as I don't like the power draw and the DX11 driver CPU overhead.

380x/390x will have, most likely similar shortcomings.

Performance/Price vs Performance/Efficiency/Premium Price. Can't tick every box, I am afraid.

 

[KaRLiToS]

The R9 380x is supposed to be announed in June or something at Computex.

The AMD Radeon R9 380X should be launched before Computex 2015 and come packing 4GB of High Bandwidth Memory (HBM),according to SweClockers sources. The timescale was revealed as April-June 2015, with that in mind Computex seems like the logical launch platform.

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/79653-amd-radeon-r9-380x-expected-launched-q2-2015/

 

[Carfax83]

380x/390x will have, most likely similar shortcomings.

Performance/Price vs Performance/Efficiency/Premium Price. Can't tick every box, I am afraid.

Yeah I thought about that, but I'm willing to be open minded and consider AMD an option at the very least. The 390x is going to be fast no doubt about it, as it has the specs, and the updated GCN cores which are more efficient..

Also AMD has shown itself willing to improve their driver overhead with the Omega driver initiative, so I hope they continue the trend.

 

[Carfax83]

The R9 380x is supposed to be announed in June or something at Computex.


http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/79653-amd-radeon-r9-380x-expected-launched-q2-2015/

Thats kind of far off. Looks like NVidia might beat them to the punch with the Titan X..

If Newegg accepts my return, I won't have anything powerful enough to game on. I have a few backup cards, but I only used them for PhysX..

 

[garagisti]

If you're going to play at higher resolutions, i have my suspicions that it will be the same as now. Nvidia doing reasonably 10% or so better at 1080p and lower, but closer to 4k you will get, closer to nothing the difference will be, if not in favour of AMD cards.

From the rumours that came from chiphell, GM200 and an unnamed AMD card were both trading blows, much like now, but more even. For $1300 i have my doubts that it will be 'that' much better given specification of rumoured cards from both side, but it is your money. If i were you, and if i must get Nvidia cards, i'd rather buy whatever Ti gaming edition cards that will come in a bit. Titans will come with easily a premium of $400 odd. I suspect that Nvidia isn't going to price correct (not much) when newer cards are launched, and is counting on its customer base to hold up the ASP. Why do i feel that? Well the price difference between a 980 and upcoming Titan is enough to price 2 more cards in between (say at $700+ and $900+) and have mighty margins on each product. I'm sure the review sites will tell us it is a good that we are paying more (for not much of a jump), but that is a rant i should save for another thread. Just sharing as much in a bid to help somehow.

BTW, the last i heard that both AMD card and GM200 are not able to beat 295X2.

 

[alcoholbob]

Buying the Titan at release wasn't *that* bad of an investment. Remember the GTX 780 which came half a year later started off as $649, but was about 10% slower. It wasn't until 9 months after the Titan was released that a faster 780Ti was released, at $749 and was only about 7-8% faster. 780Ti was basically a $700+ card until the GTX 970 came out in September 2014, so the Titan held its value for about a year and a half.

Now if the Titan X will be $1350 this time, you could think of it as getting the full card right away (as evidence points to it not being a cut-down version like the first Titan). So in effect you are paying a $350 premium to have the performance of the refreshed gaming variant maybe 9 months early.

 

[Carfax83]

If you're going to play at higher resolutions, i have my suspicions that it will be the same as now. Nvidia doing reasonably 10% or so better at 1080p and lower, but closer to 4k you will get, closer to nothing the difference will be, if not in favour of AMD cards.

One thing is for sure, AMD will have the bandwidth advantage. Although GM200 will supposedly have a 3MB L2 cache that will supply a ton of bandwidth as well, which should help even the odds.

From the rumours that came from chiphell, GM200 and an unnamed AMD card were both trading blows, much like now, but more even. For $1300 i have my doubts that it will be 'that' much better given specification of rumoured cards from both side, but it is your money.

The thing about NVidia though, is that it comes with additional perks such as low overhead DX11 drivers, superb thermal and power characteristics, and additional software such as PhysX etcetera..

If I do go with AMD, it's going to be hard to give up NVidia after so long.

If i were you, and if i must get Nvidia cards, i'd rather buy whatever Ti gaming edition cards that will come in a bit. Titans will come with easily a premium of $400 odd.

The Ti won't be launching till the end of summer though most likely, and I need a card to play the Witcher 3.

I'm not really worried about the Titan's price either. It's expensive yes, but I can afford it. Also, when it comes time to sell it, it will still retain much of it's value unlike many other video cards.

One thing I do hope though is that NVidia releases a 6GB version for say 1K.. 12GB is way too much for strictly gaming.

BTW, the last i heard that both AMD card and GM200 are not able to beat 295X2.

I would be surprised if either of them did. All I need is similar performance to what I'm getting now with GTX 970 SLI..

970 SLI can easily hit and maintain 60 FPS at 1440p max settings in even the latest titles, provided you don't go overboard with AA..

 

[jackstar7]

The reason why is because it's a certainty that the Titan X will be able to achieve high frame rates at 1440p by itself, just based on the specs.

Might want to wait until those specs are confirmed.

 

[garagisti]

One thing is for sure, AMD will have the bandwidth advantage. Although GM200 will supposedly have a 3MB L2 cache that will supply a ton of bandwidth as well, which should help even the odds.

The thing about NVidia though, is that it comes with additional perks such as low overhead DX11 drivers, superb thermal and power characteristics, and additional software such as PhysX etcetera..

If I do go with AMD, it's going to be hard to give up NVidia after so long.

The Ti won't be launching till the end of summer though most likely, and I need a card to play the Witcher 3.

I'm not really worried about the Titan's price either. It's expensive yes, but I can afford it. Also, when it comes time to sell it, it will still retain much of it's value unlike many other video cards.

One thing I do hope though is that NVidia releases a 6GB version for say 1K.. 12GB is way too much for strictly gaming.

I would be surprised if either of them did. All I need is similar performance to what I'm getting now with GTX 970 SLI..

970 SLI can easily hit and maintain 60 FPS at 1440p max settings in even the latest titles, provided you don't go overboard with AA..

I think Jackstar above me, has some good advise, about specifications. If you're not worried about the price, then i'd suggest buying the Titan at whatever they charge you, and not some cut Titan. 16nm is coming next year iirc, and who knows what that cat will drag in.

I'll give you gameworks, but thermals and noise were not much of a problem, if at all, on an aftermarket 290 or 290x. Well that is, unless you picked the first card in front of you. AT's own tests showed at load while playing Crysis 3 that a 290 TriX was about 7+db quieter than some EVGA 970s.

Your call, though with that money you could easily get a decent 290x cf setup, and with that, you could even use AA and even 4k.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Yeah I thought about that, but I'm willing to be open minded and consider AMD an option at the very least. The 390x is going to be fast no doubt about it, as it has the specs, and the updated GCN cores which are more efficient..

If it's on a different node, then it would be very interesting. If it remains at 28nm, not so. Remember, that huge memory b/w needs to be fed adequately. The whole thing has to be efficient/balanced on all fronts. I hope, AMD can still surprise us all.

Also AMD has shown itself willing to improve their driver overhead with the Omega driver initiative, so I hope they continue the trend.

Time will tell.