Titan X for 500$

[happy medium]

If you could buy a Evga superclocked Titan X for 500$, would you grab it or just wait for next gen gpu's at this stage of the game. I'm finding it hard to resist....

 

[Silverforce11]

Isn't that basically a custom 980Ti? Since they have a major boost clock gap over Titan X.

So the question is, would you grab a custom 980Ti for $500?

Edit: I would not, because I believe we're quite close to the real next-gen. Folking out $500 that's gonna be utterly obsolete in 6 months is sad panda. The end of a node with a major node jump about to start is always a bad time for major GPU buys.

 

[alcoholbob]

Yeah I would buy it and resell it on ebay for $250 profit.

I wouldn't use it unless as a single card and with an open case. Those reference cards are noisy as hell.

 

[wilds]

For the price of a GTX 980 ti? Do it. The Titan X will probably be a better binned piece of silicon. If not to use it, it will sell well.

 

[RaulF]

I would.

 

[Mondozei]

Folking out $500 that's gonna be utterly obsolete in 6 months is sad panda. .

I don't know, I used to think like that, but if we get a GP104 which is not exceptionally overwhelming then we might have a $300 GPU which performs around the same as a 980 Ti. That wouldn't make the 980 Ti - or the Titan X - "utterly obsolete". It would merely place them in the mainstream of performance.

Further, we're going to see the new GPUs around the back to school timeframe. That's roughly 10 months from now.

If you look at how previous flagship GPUs have been priced almost one full year, most of the $500-600 prices typically go down by half. So it's not like this would be unprecedented in the way you try to portray it.

It also depends how often you upgrade and what your budget is. If someone upgrades every year, it's worth it. If someone upgrades every 2-3 years, it's not.

It depends on the usecase.

 

[happy medium]

I game @1080p,so I would be good for like 3years? Thats how I see it.

 

[Aristotelian]

With a Titan X at 1080p you should be good for a while - I mean you're getting it at a significant price cut and you could always re-sell it later and upgrade if you need to.

That card you mention still sells (new) for about EUR 1100 in Europe so...seems like you could even buy it and re-sell it for a profit if you wanted to!

 

[Borealis7]

i'm a firm believer in buying last-gen top cards second hand, as evident by the GTX680 in my sig, but at this point i would not do it since you can't know what 500$ will get you once next gen cards are released. it would be better to re-evaluate the deal in 6 months (if it stays relevant)

 

[crisium]

The gamble you take is that a next-gen Titan X equivalent will likely be cheaper than that. The $300 660 Ti beat the 580. The $330 970 beat the 780 and Titan, and is on the heals of the 780 Ti. Even with prices having risen I find it unlikely that the next-gen $400 GPUs won't at least equal the Titan X.

Of course you can't get those today, so you miss out on the privilege of higher settings right now.

 

[MrTeal]

I don't know, I used to think like that, but if we get a GP104 which is not exceptionally overwhelming then we might have a $300 GPU which performs around the same as a 980 Ti. That wouldn't make the 980 Ti - or the Titan X - "utterly obsolete". It would merely place them in the mainstream of performance.

Further, we're going to see the new GPUs around the back to school timeframe. That's roughly 10 months from now.

If you look at how previous flagship GPUs have been priced almost one full year, most of the $500-600 prices typically go down by half. So it's not like this would be unprecedented in the way you try to portray it.

It also depends how often you upgrade and what your budget is. If someone upgrades every year, it's worth it. If someone upgrades every 2-3 years, it's not.

It depends on the usecase.

I would be estatic if GP104 came out and was $300, but based on GP104 and GM204, I think that ship has sailed. I would be happy if we got a GTXx70 for that price.

 

[Mondozei]

I would be estatic if GP104 came out and was $300, but based on GP104 and GM204, I think that ship has sailed. I would be happy if we got a GTXx70 for that price.

I should have been more precise. I meant the GP104 midrange GPU, not the high-range GPU(which is certainly going to be around the $549 historical range, based on GK104 and GM204).

Point being is that 10 months is a long time. If someone upgrades every year, getting a 980 Ti is absolutely worth it if you want the fastest possible single dGPU performance possible. And it would probably be the MSI LE of the 980 Ti, which is exceeding the Titan X at much lower noise.

As for GP104, time will tell how fast it will be. When I read HBM2 being invoked, I can't help think of the fury. We were all told HBM1 would be a gamechanger in performance. When all was said and done, it didn't happen. It allowed AMD to push TDP down, but net performance was and is still below the 980 Ti once both are overclocked to the max. So I'm not so sure that HBM2 will be a massive revolution either.

I wouldn't be surprised if NV spaced out their GP104 with cut-down versions to get that ~40% performance increase which has been the historical norm in the post-Moore's Law era and then released a full fat GP104 a bit later around the holidays and then went all in with the GP100 in 2017. In such a scenario, getting a 980 Ti would make even more sense.

 

[Mondozei]

BTW; the GTX 980 - forget the 980 Ti or Titan X - is more than enough for 1440p today in virtually every game.

If you look at the AAA games released this autumn, it's clear that they are hitting a performance wall. I've made this argument recently.

Unless you're aiming for 120 fps stable in 1440p, a GTX 980 or even a 970 is probably going to be good enough even for next year. That's why both AMD/NV are pushing people to upgrade to better monitors, whether it is resolution or HDR, as it takes more bandwidth and also sells more GPUs(with newer features).

At normal resolutions(1080/1440p) at SDR, what we have today is frankly going to cut it going forward, since the upcoming AAA games aren't going to be radically more demanding because of the consoles.

People like me will still upgrade, because we're aiming for the 4K@120fps with HDR(and preferably OLED) performance target. But if we don't get any such monitors in the next couple of years at decent price points with relatively QC issues, I wouldn't be surprised if a 980 Ti bought today would be more than sufficient until the next consoles are out, assuming a relatively aggressive holidays 2018 target. The only possible exception might be Star Citizen.

 

[MagickMan]

Buy it, use it for 6 months, sell it for the same price. Easy.

 

[Elfear]

At that price, I probably would.

 

[RaulF]

BTW; the GTX 980 - forget the 980 Ti or Titan X - is more than enough for 1440p today in virtually every game.

If you look at the AAA games released this autumn, it's clear that they are hitting a performance wall. I've made this argument recently.

Unless you're aiming for 120 fps stable in 1440p, a GTX 980 or even a 970 is probably going to be good enough even for next year. That's why both AMD/NV are pushing people to upgrade to better monitors, whether it is resolution or HDR, as it takes more bandwidth and also sells more GPUs(with newer features).

At normal resolutions(1080/1440p) at SDR, what we have today is frankly going to cut it going forward, since the upcoming AAA games aren't going to be radically more demanding because of the consoles.

People like me will still upgrade, because we're aiming for the 4K@120fps with HDR(and preferably OLED) performance target. But if we don't get any such monitors in the next couple of years at decent price points with relatively QC issues, I wouldn't be surprised if a 980 Ti bought today would be more than sufficient until the next consoles are out, assuming a relatively aggressive holidays 2018 target. The only possible exception might be Star Citizen.

At what medium/low settings.

No thanks.

 

[RussianSensation]

Yeah I would buy it and resell it on ebay for $250 profit.

I wouldn't use it unless as a single card and with an open case. Those reference cards are noisy as hell.

Seconded. I've seen EVGA B-stock Titan X selling out for $850. That means $250-300 profit from a $500 Titan X is realistic. I'd then sell the i3 6100 in 2016, and get a 6700K/Kaby Lake and upgrade to a 16nm GPU.

I game @1080p,so I would be good for like 3years? Thats how I see it.

Assuming you upgrade the i3. As alcoholbob advised, it's better to buy a Titan X for $500, resell it for $700-800. Then if you want to, just get an after-market 980Ti. 980Ti is better than an air cooled reference Titan X because reference TX is going to be loud and most likely bottom out at 1400-1430mhz at high rpms. 980Ti should overclock better, negating any advantage in CUDA cores the Titan X has, but will also be MUCH quieter.

$600 after-market 980Ti - $200-300 profit off the TX resale = $300-400 after-market 980Ti with warranty.

Personally, since you have an i3, I would not bother buying any $500 card for it until you upgrade to an i5/i7. Until then, keep using the 960. Once you get an i5/i7, then you can take the $200-300 profit from the TX + add $200-300 and buy a 16nm card.

 

[Actaeon]

$500 all in for a Titan X or even a 980 Ti is a great deal.

 

[tential]

It's quite sad that this needs to be even asked as a question...

 

[tviceman]

Full functioning GM200's should be 10% faster clock-for-clock than 980 TI's. The problem is the loud blower on it. Happy, I second the other suggestions to buy and resell it.

 

[happy medium]

It's quite sad that this needs to be even asked as a question...

If it was 6 months ago it would be in my case already but with new cards coming it makes you think.

I'm more worried about the Titan X not having the proper features for a full direct X 12 game.
Mabe some 275$ midrange card will mop the floor with it in newer games late 2016 early 2017.
The value will go down and i'll be pissed.

Mabe buy it and resell it, that's sounds like a plan

RS , I will be upgrading to 6700k/kabylake next year , for sure.:thumbsup:

I3 6100 performance with a titan X. It don't seem too bad..?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-intel-core-i3-6100-review

 

[tential]

If it was 6 months ago it would be in my case already but with new cards coming it makes you think.

I'm more worried about the Titan X not having the proper features for a full direct X 12 game.
Mabe some 275$ midrange card will mop the floor with it in newer games late 2016 early 2017.
The value will go down and i'll be pissed.

Mabe buy it and resell it, that's sounds like a plan

RS , I will be upgrading to 6700k/kabylake next year , for sure.:thumbsup:

I3 6100 performance with a titan X. It don't seem too bad..?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-intel-core-i3-6100-review

It's a common sense situation.

It's like if I gave you a $100 bill and told you it would cost you $75.... It's common sense.

 

[DigDog]

duh, buy and resell. buy and be forced to keep it? maybe not.

 

[2is]

BTW; the GTX 980 - forget the 980 Ti or Titan X - is more than enough for 1440p today in virtually every game.

980 is the worst possible GPU you can buy given it's price/performance. Marginally faster than a 970 which can be had for half the price and marginally cheaper then a much faster 980Ti

Back on topic. I'd certainly buy it, PM me a link if you don't because I certainly will. Heck I just ordered a 980Ti at full price (though did get a free game) even though I wanted to wait until next gen, but an upgrade from 1200p to 1440p changed all that

 

[Mondozei]

980 is the worst possible GPU you can buy given it's price/performance. Marginally faster than a 970 which can be had for half the price and marginally cheaper then a much faster 980Ti

Agreed, if you buy it new. If you get it used at $300 like I did, it's an awesome buy.

At what medium/low settings.

No thanks.

I'm using a 980 now and I'm usually at high/ultra already for 1440p.
Look at the latest Rainbow Six. Even the 280X managed to get around 60 fps on medium at 1440p.
How much do you even game? You seem woefully out of touch.