Titan for PsyX

Lepton87

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Is it worth it to keep my GTX TITAN for PsyX duties? I had two of them but burned one due to leak in the loop. The tubing got deformed. If I sell it the money I spent on the watercooling would be wasted. BTW. I want to pair it to a Gigabyte GTX 980TI G1 I do it reluctantly but alas AMD has nothing that can compete with this overclocked card :(
ps. I have a hard time finding one of them in stock, is there any other custom card that is comparable to that gigabyte? That is with a core clock upwards of 1150MHz and that can be overclocked close to 1300MHz? I'd like to watercool that card so water-blocks availability is also very important.
 
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RaistlinZ

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Seems like overkill for PhysX when a 750Ti could do the job. An original Titan is still work like what, $300 at least?
 

Lepton87

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I didn't ask for value only if it would increase my frame-rates. I have that Titan and it is watercooled and I don't want to sell it. My question was if it would be sufficient as a PsyX accelerator, everyone knows Kepler sucks at compute.

ps. I already ordered that 980Ti G1. Is there any waterblock available for this card?

ps1. The prices are just crazy I paid 4000PLN for my Titan and now I'm paying 3200PLN for something that should be 35% cheaper.
 
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Eymar

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Well if you have no other use for the Titan, then might as well. It does make a difference:
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Deders

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I think Maxwell shaders will do PhysX faster than Kepler, you may end up losing performance in some cases.
 

Lepton87

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I think Maxwell shaders will do PhysX faster than Kepler, you may end up losing performance in some cases.

I'm gonna test it but I'm pretty sure sole Maxwell will be much slower without PsyX accelerator and this is not GTX650 but Titan.
 

Fox5

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I'm gonna test it but I'm pretty sure sole Maxwell will be much slower without PsyX accelerator and this is not GTX650 but Titan.

Yeah I'd bet Maxwell + Titan is going to be faster than Maxwell alone. The Titan is at least 50% of the speed of maxwell worst case, so even if physx is half the work load, it should still do it faster than one card could do it alone.
 

Lepton87

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Yeah I'd bet Maxwell + Titan is going to be faster than Maxwell alone. The Titan is at least 50% of the speed of maxwell worst case, so even if physx is half the work load, it should still do it faster than one card could do it alone.

It is more than that, I highly doubt that I'm going to beat my Titan SLI results at 1.2GHz.
ps. the card has arrived.

ps1. I didn't want another NV card but FuryX can barely match a stock 980Ti at 4K not to mention an overclocked 980Ti. :(
 
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njdevilsfan87

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Sorry to hear about the leak. One thing you may want to consider is full cover back plates for your water cooled GPUs (and not the ones with holes drilled into them everywhere), along with a PSU cover at the bottom of your case. While back plates will not save your GPU if the leak goes unnoticed for too long, they will at least delay water from coming in contact with PCB. Better to find a small puddle sitting on top of your back plate than on the GPU PCB itself.
 
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Fox5

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It is more than that, I highly doubt that I'm going to beat my Titan SLI results at 1.2GHz.
ps. the card has arrived.

ps1. I didn't want another NV card but FuryX can barely match a stock 980Ti at 4K not to mention an overclocked 980Ti. :(

I'm surprised you didn't buy another Titan, or sell the Titan.

In Batman, SLI barely works, so dedicating one card to physx may actually outperform sli cards, but it won't be like that in most games. (batman extensively uses physx too)
 

Lepton87

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I'm surprised you didn't buy another Titan, or sell the Titan.

In Batman, SLI barely works, so dedicating one card to physx may actually outperform sli cards, but it won't be like that in most games. (batman extensively uses physx too)

At first I wanted to buy another Titan but then I saw results in recent games like the witcher 3 and I was afraid that such a trend would hold in other new releases too. It underperfoms even R290 in new releases and I could almost* buy two of them for the price of a single Titan.(If it was even available which it isn't at least here in Poland) Titans performed great until the launch of GM204 after which it gradually tanked in performance relative not only to its younger brother but also to the competition. Was kepler an out-dated architecture even at release not suitable for new engines or is it all in the drivers? Kepler is newer than GCN even if just barely but it aged terribly bad compared to even GCN1.0. The second reason for not getting another Titan was the lack of availability. Where I live there is none for sale. Not even one card. As for selling my Titan I can still do it but there's water block on it and I doubt anyone would be interested in buying a water-cooled Titan so I would have to reverse to the stock cooling. Because there is none for sale I don't even know how much to ask for it. So I figured that it would be great for as a PsyX card.

* I checked the prices, I could buy even two 290X for the price of a single Titan. After thinking about it, that is what I should have done, sell my Titan and buy 3x290X they are super cheap probably due to the mining craze. My PC can easily handle 3 such cards. That would be vastly superior to a 980Ti even overclocked by 20%. Titan will only come in handy in PsyX games.
ps. Are there any waterblocks available for that 980Ti G1? I guess the PCB is not reference, is it?
 
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DooKey

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I think you're going to be out of luck getting a WB for that Gigabyte. Regardless, you are buying a nice card. Why not sell the Titan and buy a nice Gsync monitor?
 

Fox5

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At first I wanted to buy another Titan but then I saw results in recent games like the witcher 3 and I was afraid that such a trend would hold in other new releases too. It underperfoms even R290 in new releases and I could almost* buy two of them for the price of a single Titan.(If it was even available which it isn't at least here in Poland) Titans performed great until the launch of GM204 after which it gradually tanked in performance relative not only to its younger brother but also to the competition. Was kepler an out-dated architecture even at release not suitable for new engines or is it all in the drivers? Kepler is newer than GCN even if just barely but it aged terribly bad compared to even GCN1.0. The second reason for not getting another Titan was the lack of availability. Where I live there is none for sale. Not even one card. As for selling my Titan I can still do it but there's water block on it and I doubt anyone would be interested in buying a water-cooled Titan so I would have to reverse to the stock cooling. Because there is none for sale I don't even know how much to ask for it. So I figured that it would be great for as a PsyX card.

* I checked the prices, I could buy even two 290X for the price of a single Titan. After thinking about it, that is what I should have done, sell my Titan and buy 3x290X they are super cheap probably due to the mining craze. My PC can easily handle 3 such cards. That would be vastly superior to a 980Ti even overclocked by 20%. Titan will only come in handy in PsyX games.
ps. Are there any waterblocks available for that 980Ti G1? I guess the PCB is not reference, is it?

Why not sell your water cooling kit with the Titan?
 

renegade800x

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I'm using my GTX 480 for Physx with 780TI HydroCopper main. Very pleased and it's a huge difference vs if I leave the 780TI alone.

During a Physx benchmark (http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/physx-fluidmark/) where the 780TI was maxed out according to the graphs, the GTX 480 wasn't exceeding 30%.
Same benchmark without dedicated 480 for Physx card saw a major FPS hit.

Your Titan is enough for Physx.. word overkill comes to mind.
 

Lepton87

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Why not sell your water cooling kit with the Titan?

It's not worth bothering. I can maybe get 40% of what I paid for the block and that's going to be hard. I can't find even a single Titan for sale over here. My radiator can easily handle 4 cards + CPU.

I think you're going to be out of luck getting a WB for that Gigabyte. Regardless, you are buying a nice card. Why not sell the Titan and buy a nice Gsync monitor?
My monitor is fine I doubt I would notice a difference unless I bought something like 32'' 4K and that would require 2 or 3 cards. Not worth it.

30'' 120HZ IPS 2560x1440 would also be nice, but last I checked there were none available.
 
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Deders

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I'm using my GTX 480 for Physx with 780TI HydroCopper main. Very pleased and it's a huge difference vs if I leave the 780TI alone.

During a Physx benchmark (http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/physx-fluidmark/) where the 780TI was maxed out according to the graphs, the GTX 480 wasn't exceeding 30%.
Same benchmark without dedicated 480 for Physx card saw a major FPS hit.

Your Titan is enough for Physx.. word overkill comes to mind.

Would be interested to see how well that works in actual games,you also have to bear in mind fermi shaders ar clocked at twice the speed which can make a difference.

Arkham asylum needed a hotfix for kepler cards for the scarecrow scenes to accomodate the shaders running at half the speed, otherwise things would run much slower on cards with twice the gpu grunt.
 

Lepton87

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Would be interested to see how well that works in actual games,you also have to bear in mind fermi shaders ar clocked at twice the speed which can make a difference.

Arkham asylum needed a hotfix for kepler cards for the scarecrow scenes to accomodate the shaders running at half the speed, otherwise things would run much slower on cards with twice the gpu grunt.

Twice the core speed, not twice the speed of kepler. In case of GTX480 that would be 1400MHz vs 1200MHz on my overclocked Titan. Not much of a difference.
 

Deders

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Granted but it still goes to show there are more factors in play than just gpu grunt.