Tire warranties...can an owner do the rotations themself?

alkemyst

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Tires are Goodyear ComforTred's, 80,000mile warranty.

If I pay for the rotations every 6k, it's a loss. Next time I will order through Costco to get this free.

Can I do my own rotations? What kind of proof do they need?

Thanks

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alkemyst

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for my wife. I am running F1 Asymetrics now...prior to that GS-D3's...all of 12k miles for the D3's, my prior set lasted 7500 miles.
 

helpme

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
has that worked for you?

All of my tires have either been to the (road) track, or worn with high camber settings... Tire companies don't really like to give me a partial credit when the see how the tires have worn...

I don't see why it wouldn't work. You can use your own oil change and other reciepts for other warranty claims. I cant' see how there could be something in the warranty that says you have to take it to a "shop" to maintain the warranty.
 

Thump553

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Good luck. Your documentation is extremely slim-no outisde confirmation, just a slip of paper written up by you. At least with oil & filter changes you have receipts for the materials.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: helpme
Originally posted by: alkemyst
has that worked for you?

All of my tires have either been to the (road) track, or worn with high camber settings... Tire companies don't really like to give me a partial credit when the see how the tires have worn...

I don't see why it wouldn't work. You can use your own oil change and other reciepts for other warranty claims. I cant' see how there could be something in the warranty that says you have to take it to a "shop" to maintain the warranty.

I am not looking for a lesson in what tires get covered or not. I know my F1 Asymetrics even with a warranty if they had one would not be covered just because of the suspension on my car.

This is for my wife's...with an oil change (which I do myself some of time, but with $9.95-14.95 changes at the dealer in 20 mins it's not worth my time anymore) you have a receipt for oil and a filter.
 

helpme

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: helpme
Originally posted by: alkemyst
has that worked for you?

All of my tires have either been to the (road) track, or worn with high camber settings... Tire companies don't really like to give me a partial credit when the see how the tires have worn...

I don't see why it wouldn't work. You can use your own oil change and other reciepts for other warranty claims. I cant' see how there could be something in the warranty that says you have to take it to a "shop" to maintain the warranty.

I am not looking for a lesson in what tires get covered or not. I know my F1 Asymetrics even with a warranty if they had one would not be covered just because of the suspension on my car.

This is for my wife's...with an oil change (which I do myself some of time, but with $9.95-14.95 changes at the dealer in 20 mins it's not worth my time anymore) you have a receipt for oil and a filter.

Well, I can't guarantee anything, but as I said, I don't know how the company could decline warranty coverage because you did them yourself. Self recorded proof is still proof.

 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
How many jacks do you have??

Don't know why this matters. I could rotate all four tires in under 15mins. I have two real jacks, not counting what came with the vehicles.
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
How many jacks do you have??

Don't know why this matters. I could rotate all four tires in under 15mins. I have two real jacks, not counting what came with the vehicles.

Because you need at least 2 and unless I'm picturing it wrong, in order to rotate in an X pattern you need 4. Or jackstands
 

alkemyst

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You also need tools I suppose...

I was looking for someone that has done this before, not people speculating and trying to explain the job of tire rotation to me. :)
 

HannibalX

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
How many jacks do you have??

Don't know why this matters. I could rotate all four tires in under 15mins. I have two real jacks, not counting what came with the vehicles.

Because you need at least 2 and unless I'm picturing it wrong, in order to rotate in an X pattern you need 4. Or jackstands

Not all tires are recomended to be changed in an X pattern. It depends on the tread. In fact many tires are uni-directional and should not be rotated on an X pattern.
 

M2008S

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2 jacks. front to back, fellas. some tires are directional so no x patterns.

jack one side, swap front and back, do other. easy. im not sure about documentation. why is it so costly to have someone else do it for the documentation? some places give free rotation with oil change.
 

CycloWizard

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I had two thoughts. First, tire warranties are becoming less and less useful. If your tire wears in less than the warranted mileage, you'll be lucky if they pro-rate the difference on a new set of tires. They can even get around this by citing misalignment, improper/insufficient rotation/balancing, or even improper pressure. It's extremely hard to argue against any of these because all of these things will lead to accelerated wear. If any of these are cited, you won't get anything back for your warranty, since it only covers "manufacturer defects" rather than normal wear. I work in elastomer (rubber) research and the last time I had someone look at my tires, I told them I was pretty sure the tires wearing out in less than 50% of the warranty is a defect resulting from the manufacture. They didn't think much of that and basically I had to eat the cost of the tires. They cited either misalignment or insufficient rotation, which I had done myself, so there wasn't much I could do.

The second thought is that if you're going to pay someone to rotate the tires, it's going to come out to more than you'll save under the best of circumstances. If I have a set of tires rotated 3-4 times and it's only $20 each time (very, very low estimate :p), then I'm still coming out behind because I'll never recoup that expense even if they pro-rate the warranty, which is not a given.

So, my recommendation is to just do it yourself. You're not likely going to get much love from the tire-man, but he's not really interested in helping you out anyway, so this is almost always a better financial decision.