Tinfoil Hat Time: A thought about major peaceniks' assassinations

[conjur]

I was talking with a buddy last night and it seems those in recent history who have fostered peace or tried to avoid going to war have been killed/assassinated:

Ghandi was assassinated. Pretty obvious he was a lover of peace.
John F. Kennedy was assassinated. He wanted out of Vietnam.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated. He fought for civil rights and peace.
Robert Kennedy was assassinated. He carried on his brother's love of peace and tactics for negotiation.
John Lennon was assassinated. "All we are saying...is give peace a chance."
Anwar Sadat (former Pres. of Egypt) was assassinated. Nobel Peace Prize winner even spoke to the Israeli parliament in a peace effort.



I dunno...just thinking aloud...discuss if you want.

 

[ElFenix]

JFK and RFK pissed off the mob

the guy was really aiming for yoko and missed badly

you forgot the israeli

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
JFK and RFK pissed off the mob

True.

the guy was really aiming for yoko and missed badly

Not quite.

you forgot the israeli

Ah, Rabin.

 

[AntiEverything]

I don't think there's anything strange here. When people hate, it's easy for them to kill those who stand in the way of their hate.

 

[maddogchen]

maybe those who are trying to foster peace do not have as tight security as those advocating war. Such as Hitler, they almost got him. Stalin there was little chance penetrating all that security around him. Saddam, and many others.

 

[glugglug]

According to this, JFK was shot by George H. W. Bush (Poppi Bush).

 

[Valvoline6]

JFK wanted out of Vietnam? How about Johnson? JFK was no peacenik.

It's getting quite comical in here. Bush 41 shot JFK. LMAO. I am sure you believe it too.

Originally posted by: glugglug
According to this, JFK was shot by George H. W. Bush (Poppi Bush).

 

[Infohawk]

You can just look around this board to see how rabid and angry people get when others advocate peace... i

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: conjur
I was talking with a buddy last night and it seems those in recent history who have fostered peace or tried to avoid going to war have been killed/assassinated:

Ghandi was assassinated. Pretty obvious he was a lover of peace.
John F. Kennedy was assassinated. He wanted out of Vietnam.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated. He fought for civil rights and peace.
Robert Kennedy was assassinated. He carried on his brother's love of peace and tactics for negotiation.
John Lennon was assassinated. "All we are saying...is give peace a chance."
Anwar Sadat (former Pres. of Egypt) was assassinated. Nobel Peace Prize winner even spoke to the Israeli parliament in a peace effort.



I dunno...just thinking aloud...discuss if you want.

Yittzhak Rabin was murdered because he wanted peace.

 

[theblackbox]

John F. Kennedy was assassinated. He wanted out of Vietnam.

Huh? Is this the same JFK that helped to create Special Forces in 61, and agent orange then ,talked about "aggression blunted in vietnam" then in 63 on Nov 20 two days before his death approaved McNamaras Plan 34a, that sponsored covert operations in NV, like commando raids, kidnapping, the DeSoto patrols? If he was trying to get us out of Vietnam, I would have been interested to see what his next step would have been.
If you are talking about the oliver stone jfk?

what did his brother think?

pull out of vietnam?

 

[yankeesfan]

Originally posted by: glugglug
According to this, JFK was shot by George H. W. Bush (Poppi Bush).

:roll:

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: conjur
I was talking with a buddy last night and it seems those in recent history who have fostered peace or tried to avoid going to war have been killed/assassinated:

Ghandi was assassinated. Pretty obvious he was a lover of peace.
John F. Kennedy was assassinated. He wanted out of Vietnam.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated. He fought for civil rights and peace.
Robert Kennedy was assassinated. He carried on his brother's love of peace and tactics for negotiation.
John Lennon was assassinated. "All we are saying...is give peace a chance."
Anwar Sadat (former Pres. of Egypt) was assassinated. Nobel Peace Prize winner even spoke to the Israeli parliament in a peace effort.



I dunno...just thinking aloud...discuss if you want.

Early-90's hairband Extreme had a song on this very subject called "Peacemaker Die".

PEACEMAKER DIE,
Mr. Righteous One
You say you have this plan?
If we care to understand

PEACEMAKER DIE,
Mr. Nice Guy
You dare to speak the truth?
I'll twist and turn it into lies

Blessed are the warmongers,
Blessed are the warmongers
For they shall be called,
Man-made Gods

PEACEMAKER DIE,
PEACEMAKER DIE,
PEACEMAKER DIE,
I DON'T KNOW WHY?
PEACEMAKER DIE,
PEACEMAKER DIE,
PEACEMAKER DIE,
PEACEMAKER DIE,
PEACEMAKER DIE,
I DON'T KNOW WHY?

PEACEMAKER DIE,
Mr. Goody Two
Do you really thing the world
Can be Black, White, and Jew?

PEACEMAKER DIE,
Mr. Music Man
Don't turn your back on me?
Cause I'm the one with the gun

Blessed are the warmongers,
Blessed are the warmongers,
For they shall be called,
Sons of God

(Proceeds to MLK's "I have a dream" speech)

 

[conjur]

Hmm...

Was Robert Kennedy killed by a real 'Manchurian candidate'-style assassin?

A new book claims to reveal evidence that the CIA, FBI and Aristotle Onassis hypnotised a Palestinian man into assassinating Robert Kennedy. John Hiscock reports

http://news.independent.co.uk/...story.jsp?story=601960

 

[beyoku]

Originally posted by: glugglug
According to this, JFK was shot by George H. W. Bush (Poppi Bush).

This is disinfo. This entire site was proved to be disinfo when traced back to who actually owned it. It was traced back to FEMA - on group that said the air was fine after 911.
I will search for links.

 

[CaptnKirk]

"Can't remember where he was when Kennedy was assassinated"

That's pretty bogus, if you were over the age of say, 3 you know EXACTLY where you were -
and what you were doing at that point in history.

I know where I was and what I was doing.

Same as with the Challenger - you know !

 

[Train]

you forgot Lincoln! That might fit your argument.

JFK was a mob hit, so was his brother. (Nightline hinted at this last night when talking about notable election irregularities, specifically the 1960 Chicago votes, which the city repeatedly refused to challenge)

JFK wanted out of Vietnam? huh, US didnt get involved until 65, JFK was shot in 63

MLK was a racist hit,

Lennon was shot by a whacko? (kinda like the guy who shot Reagan for that actress, whats her name) but if Lennon was killed for political reasons, U2's Bono better watch out, as better the Dixie Chicks, and Puff Daddy, and damn near every other entertainer. Did Jackson ever get attacked for that "Give Peace a Chance" thing he put together?

Dont know who killed Ghandi or Sadat, I'm a little rusty on those ones.

I'm not 100% convinced peaceloving people get assasinated more than, ummmm, "non-peace loving people"? Though there could be some truth behind it. Perhaps its because a leader who's not so afraid to launch a cruise missle up your butt if you mess with him is not worth pursuing, you know just in case you miss and he finds out who you are

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Train
you forgot Lincoln! That might fit your argument.

JFK was a mob hit, so was his brother. (Nightline hinted at this last night when talking about notable election irregularities, specifically the 1960 Chicago votes, which the city repeatedly refused to challenge)

JFK wanted out of Vietnam? huh, US didnt get involved until 65, JFK was shot in 63

Go check out your history

MLK was a racist hit,

No way....no how.

Lennon was shot by a whacko? (kinda like the guy who shot Reagan for that actress, whats her name) but if Lennon was killed for political reasons, U2's Bono better watch out, as better the Dixie Chicks, and Puff Daddy, and damn near every other entertainer. Did Jackson ever get attacked for that "Give Peace a Chance" thing he put together?

Forgetting the FBI surveillance of Lennon? Hell, they tapped his phones!

 

[BBond]

The USA was in Vietnam under Eisenhower around 1957 IIRC. Kennedy was against the military build up in Vietnam.

The fact that our leaders are killed more than your leaders has nothing to do with your leaders' supposedly more sure revenge. It has to do with right wingers use of violence as a solution for any "problem".

Ever heard of "left wing death squads"? I didn't think so.

 

[CaptnKirk]

JFK wanted out of Vietnam? huh, US didnt get involved until 65, JFK was shot in 63

We had 'advisers' in with the French since the 50's under Eisenhower, and Kennedy had began quite a run-up during '61 & '62.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.thehistorynet.com/vn/blngo_dinh_diem/">Escalation began before the assassination of Diem in JFK's term -
only 3 weeks before Kennedy himself was assassinated</a>

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: BBond
The USA was in Vietnam under Eisenhower around 1957 IIRC. Kennedy was against the military build up in Vietnam.

The fact that our leaders are killed more than your leaders has nothing to do with your leaders' supposedly more sure revenge. It has to do with right wingers use of violence as a solution for any "problem".

Ever heard of "left wing death squads"? I didn't think so.

Careful with that last one, bbond. Communist Russia and China did their share of murdering.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: BBond
...Ever heard of "left wing death squads"? I didn't think so...

The KGB?

College students being squashed by tanks in Tienamen Square?

The Left can be VERY violent if it wants to be.


EDIT: conjur beat me to it.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: BBond
The USA was in Vietnam under Eisenhower around 1957 IIRC. Kennedy was against the military build up in Vietnam.

The fact that our leaders are killed more than your leaders has nothing to do with your leaders' supposedly more sure revenge. It has to do with right wingers use of violence as a solution for any "problem".

Ever heard of "left wing death squads"? I didn't think so.

Careful with that last one, bbond. Communist Russia and China did their share of murdering.

:thumbsup:

 

[Genx87]

We already went over this lastweek.

JFK is not what I would call a peacenik. He authorized the bay of pigs and ran up our numbers in vietnam. Surely LBJ just continued on the path Kennedy already started. Which is a military buildup in S. Vietnam and a more active role. I highly doubt if Kennedy wasnt killed he wouldnt have continued on the path to war in Vietnam.

 

[Rastus]

Jesus Christ belongs on this list.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: beyoku

Originally posted by: glugglug
According to this, JFK was shot by George H. W. Bush (Poppi Bush).

This is disinfo. This entire site was proved to be disinfo when traced back to who actually owned it. It was traced back to FEMA - on group that said the air was fine after 911.
I will search for links.

Are you serious?