Times Of Israel Publishes Op-Ed About 'When Genocide Is Permissible', Then Deletes It

[BoberFett]

I love Voltaire. His works should be required in any reading of the classics. Way before his time, hilarious, and vulgar.

Oh, and I agree with the quote.

Funny, it seems you're not allowed to criticize Obama lest ye be labeled a "racist" or some other derogatory term...

 

[fskimospy]

Funny, it seems you're not allowed to criticize Obama lest ye be labeled a "racist" or some other derogatory term...

Pretty sure I can find literally thousands of cases on here where someone has criticized Obama and not been called a racist.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Funny, it seems you're not allowed to criticize Obama lest ye be labeled a "racist" or some other derogatory term...

Funny, I've criticized him a few times here (and in other forums) and never once been labeled a racist for doing so. <shrug>

 

[Ichinisan]

Funny, I've criticized him a few times here (and in other forums) and never once been labeled a racist for doing so. <shrug>

Racist!

 

[glenn1]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2271786

id like to see how butthurt people get if you changed the lines to:
Support Palestine
Defeat Zionism

I don't really care about the ideology, but rather the tactics. In this case the side doing things like launching rockets indiscriminately across the border and directly targeting civilians is the one I oppose, not the one that fights "Zionism" or any other kind of "ism".

 

[WelshBloke]

In this case the side doing things like launching rockets indiscriminately across the border and directly targeting civilians is the one I oppose, not the one that fights "***" or any other kind of "ism".

I take one word out of your statement and I cant tell which side youre talking about.

 

[Newell Steamer]

And a new champion has been found for the misanthropes of these forums - congrats guys; you are reaching out of the usual crazy white person "patriot" pool and picked a Jew!

 

[CZroe]

I take one word out of your statement and I cant tell which side youre talking about.

I don't really care about the ideology, but rather the tactics. In this case the side doing things like launching rockets indiscriminately across the border and directly targeting civilians is the one I oppose, not the one that fights "Zion[Terror]ism" or any other kind of "ism".

Nope. Doesn't compute. Only one side is firing indiscriminately and that is Hamas. When there are no military installations to target, you target the weapons and the facilities firing/storing them while warning innocents to clear the area, exactly as the IDF has done. It's the very definition of discriminate and NOT "indiscriminate."

 

[Ichinisan]

And a new champion has been found for the misanthropes of these forums - congrats guys; you are reaching out of the usual crazy white person "patriot" pool and picked a Jew!

??

 

[Ichinisan]

I take one word out of your statement and I cant tell which side youre talking about.

Israel isn't launching them "indiscriminately" and isn't targeting civilians.

 

[CZroe]

Link for what? The idf drops leaflets and warns the people of Gaza about future shellings/operations, advising them to clear an area. These people head to schools and UN shelters, only to be attacked at those places.

Liar. If those places were involved in firing/storing weapons then the people went exactly where the IDF told them NOT to go. If what you say is true then you would be able to provide a link from a respectable source.

 

[emperus]

Liar. If those places were involved in firing/storing weapons then the people went exactly where the IDF told them NOT to go. If what you say is true then you would be able to provide a link from a respectable source.

I think you would benefit in reading more news. They shelled a market a couple days ago. They have also shelled UN schools and shelters where people are directed to go for safety.

Let me ask you, if someone fires a weapon(a weapon that in all effect is useless seeing the number of Israeli casualties) from your child's middle school or elementary. You know it is a middle school and that children are currently there, do you think the Police would send in a drone to destroy it without first evacuating the children?

 

[fskimospy]

Liar. If those places were involved in firing/storing weapons then the people went exactly where the IDF told them NOT to go. If what you say is true then you would be able to provide a link from a respectable source.

Your victim blaming abilities are impressive.

 

[CZroe]

I think you would benefit in reading more news. They shelled a market a couple days ago. They have also shelled UN schools and shelters where people are directed to go for safety.

Let me ask you, if someone fires a weapon(a weapon that in all effect is useless seeing the number of Israeli casualties) from your child's middle school or elementary. You know it is a middle school and that children are currently there, do you think the Police would send in a drone to destroy it without first evacuating the children?

"Market."
"School."
"Shelter."
It's nice that you get to use these labels instead just because Hamas has no dedicated...
Base
Weapons cache/depot
Stronghold
...which can't also have one of those labels applied.

That's their advantage and you have been ridiculously suckered in where it is impossible for them to retaliate at all without your selective outrage.

Iron Dome is extremely expensive (well over $100,000 per activation not counting the infrastructure and support personnel) and NOT an on-going solution.

Your victim blaming abilities are impressive.

The "victims" are the ones being fired at indiscriminately. Israel's actions are the very definition discriminating.

 

[fskimospy]

Interesting how you've found a way to make the more than 1,000 dead people not victims while making the few dozen dead people victims.

 

[CZroe]

Interesting how you've found a way to make the more than 1,000 dead people not victims while making the few dozen dead people victims.

I never said that there were no innocent Palestinian deaths. Good job trying to steer the conversation toward stupid again. You know good and well that any tragic innocent casualties from IDF responses are blood on Hamas' hands. Stop being obtuse.

 

[Dari]

"Market."
"School."
"Shelter."
It's nice that you get to use these labels instead just because Hamas has no dedicated...
Base
Weapons cache/depot
Stronghold
...which can't also have one of those labels applied.

That's their advantage and you have been ridiculously suckered in where it is impossible for them to retaliate at all without your selective outrage.

Iron Dome is extremely expensive (well over $100,000 per activation not counting the infrastructure and support personnel) and NOT an on-going solution.


The "victims" are the ones being fired at indiscriminately. Israel's actions are the very definition discriminating.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28628682

More firing at UN schools. Tell me, if these people cannot go to these designated shelters, WTF are they supposed to go, the sea? Israel knows that this latest military operation will not bring lasting peace but they do it anyway. I've got to hand it to them. They've now become what they hate and they have no problem with that.

 

[Dari]

I never said that there were no innocent Palestinian deaths. Good job trying to steer the conversation toward stupid again. You know good and well that any tragic innocent casualties from IDF responses are blood on Hamas' hands. Stop being obtuse.

Of course No doubt Tell me, is Netanyahu paying you good money for these 'opinions' of yours or is the reach-around payment enough?

 

[Ichinisan]

... Let me ask you, if someone fires a weapon(a weapon that in all effect is useless seeing the number of Israeli casualties) from your child's middle school or elementary. You know it is a middle school and that children are currently there, do you think the Police would send in a drone to destroy it without first evacuating the children?

So Israel should do nothing until there are [x] innocent civilian casualties before trying to do anything about those attacking the innocents?

So I guess you're saying a few innocent casualties is OK?

 

[Ichinisan]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28628682

More firing at UN schools. Tell me, if these people cannot go to these designated shelters, WTF are they supposed to go, the sea? Israel knows that this latest military operation will not bring lasting peace but they do it anyway. I've got to hand it to them. They've now become what they hate and they have no problem with that.

They can go into Israel if they want to get away from the terrorists that have infested Gaza.

 

[CZroe]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28628682

More firing at UN schools. Tell me, if these people cannot go to these designated shelters, WTF are they supposed to go, the sea? Israel knows that this latest military operation will not bring lasting peace but they do it anyway. I've got to hand it to them. They've now become what they hate and they have no problem with that.

Your link does not say what you think it says.

"near a UN-run school"

"Hay guise! All we have to do to escape retaliation is store our weapons NEAR a school! Damn! There are schools and shelters everywhere. LOL! This is going to be so easy!"

The only schools that were directly targeted were the ones KNOWN to be harboring weapons and they gave plenty of warning. Stop deluding yourself.

 

[fskimospy]

So Israel should do nothing until there are [x] innocent civilian casualties before trying to do anything about those attacking the innocents?

So I guess you're saying a few innocent casualties is OK?

Maybe there should be greater harm before they kill a few thousand people?

 

[CZroe]

Maybe there should be greater harm before they kill a few thousand people?

The proper role of the government is to protect its people, genius.

 

[emperus]

So Israel should do nothing until there are [x] innocent civilian casualties before trying to do anything about those attacking the innocents?

So I guess you're saying a few innocent casualties is OK?

That's the stupid line of reasoning that a lot of Israeli apologists are left to now a days. There is a gulf between doing nothing and bombing a UN SHELTER that the UN warned you 17 times is a UN Shelter. But I'm sure you know that. And I just wonder why you are acting like you don't. Does pretending to be clueless make the murder of children that much more palatable?

 

[Dari]

Your link does not say what you think it says.

"near a UN-run school"

"Hay guise! All we have to do to escape retaliation is store our weapons NEAR a school! Damn! There are schools and shelters everywhere. LOL! This is going to be so easy!"

The only schools that were directly targeted were the ones KNOWN to be harboring weapons and they gave plenty of warning. Stop deluding yourself.

Proof? Seems like last time this happened Israel's military said they would investigate then it disappeared into the ether after the next incident. IF what you said was true then they would've had a packaged response. Instead they just said they would investigate or, like Russia with the downing of the Malaysian airlines, tried to blame it on their opponent.