Time Warner - Nightmare in the making - Do you work for them?

Haui

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I had a thread going a few weeks ago about Time Warners AWESOME turn around service to get my service transffered to my new home. That day has come and gone.....and now do I have a story for you!

I called about 3 weeks ago to have my cable internet transferred over to my new home. They said they would have someone come out on the 30th of this month after 6pm. Mind you, I called back on July 12th. I called in DAILY in hopes of a sooner spot opening up (something I was told to try). On Sunday night I called in and asked.....they said they had an 8am -11am opening on the 26th (yesterday). I put the lady on hold to discuss with my fiance. We both agreed that we had to work and could not do it. I came back on the phone and told the lady we couldnt. However, she went ahead and did it, but when we said no, she was like "Well, the 30th has already been taken again" leaving us with no option other than taking the 26th at 8 am - 11am.

I was somewhat pissed....but I had to take off work for it.

Thursday came and I waited.....8am - 11am........and 11 passed by. I called TW and they said the tech was on his way. I told them this was unacceptable. He didnt call or anything until 11:30 and didnt arrive until 11:45. I was pissed. I was already passed the time I told my boss I would try to be back in. Why you ask. Well, this was a simple hookup and should NOT have taken long. Anywhoo, the guy comes in and wants to see the room where the cable modem is. We take a look at its all ready to go....all he needs to do is his thing out at the cable box outside (the ground) and bring in the cable modem. The wire was already ran previously (past owner had cable tv from TW).

So he does his thing, comes inside, hooks up the cable modem......no go.....blinking lights. This meant no connection. He tried several different things, nothing would work. He went outside and tested the main line that came to the cable box (where they turn the cable on) and it worked fine. So he determined that they needed to do a new drop cable from the cable box to the house (which would require them to bury it). By this time, we are hitting 12:30pm. I told him I HAD to go into work, there was no option. We finished EVERYTHING we needed to inside my home and he advised me that I could leave and that he would be running a temp drop cable and within a few days, he would have someone out here to bury it. He said he would have it all hooked up and running tonight when I get home. I was fine with that.

He had my cell phone number and I had his. I told him that if he needed ANYTHING or needed to get into the house, to call and I would have someone come. I never got a call. I called about mid-afternoon to see how it all was going...no answer, no call back (I left a voicemail). I assumed all was fine and going well......that is....until I came home.

I got home around 6:30pm expecting to see a cable ran across my driveway and was expecting to have internet when I got home (I even told my boss I would be working from home a little). I get home.......NO CABLE ran.......so I walk upstairs thinking that no cable needed to be ran and the cable modem would be working. That was not the case. I received no phone call, note, any type of message saying what was done/wrong/working/not working. I went around and found that the cable that was ran along the house "previously" that was ran on the wood, had NOW been moved about 4 feet down.....they guy drilled into my brick and didnt ask, notify or anything. I didnt ask him or even authorize him to do so.

I spent the next several hours on the phone with TW. The first two hours I explained my situation to several different people. One guy said the next available time they could come out was Augst 24th. I laughed at him and said he better try again.......as I again told him how pissed I was. He said there was a date open this coming Saturday from 8am - 12noon. I said......"No, I want someone here tonight or first thing when I get home from work tomorrow". He couldnt do it. I finally agreed on the Saturday time....but I was not satisfied with the solution - THE TECHNICIAN DIDNT DO HE FUCKING JOB AND HE ALTERED MY HOUSE. Someone had to pay and answer me. I did NOT give up. I spoke with several different people about this....TRYING to get to a supervisor/manager. Let me tell you, they sure give you the run around.

I cooked dinner and decided to try again after dinner. I spent another hour talking to people and FINALLY got ahold of a manager. I explained EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING that had happened up until this point. He set me up to have a technician come out and take care of it today after 5pm.

So this is where I stand.....waiting again (im at work though). Regardless of whether or not they come and complete the task....im am thinking of going farther than just a manager at this point. Time Warner and MOST cable companies treat customers as if TW is doing them a favor by allowing them to pay for their service. I have had nothing but bad experiences with them......and I want your opinion.

Should I take this further.......time wasted waiting (making them pay for time missed at work), the alteration of my house (I consider it damages), and the time wasted on my cell phone talking to them.


Originally posted by: guyver01
Originally posted by: Haui

I want to know your thoughts......

"i want your opinions only if your sympathetic to me and want to kiss my ass and form a revolt against all cable companies... otherwise i will curse you out for stating your opinions"

Cliffs - forget it......if you are a paying TW customer - you will respect my story and nightmare.

I am pretty sure I left out alot......so i will add if needed. If some of this doesn't make sense, ask me. I am looking for opinions and suggestions of what to do next.





*****UPDATED*****

To make a long update short......can anyone give me ANY contact information to Time Warners Corporate office? This whole shebang is getting way out of hand.......they buried a cable and hit a neighbors sprinkler system - neighbor wants ME to pay damages.

This "drop and bury" cable was NOT authorized to bury, dig or anything...

I want phone numbers, office locations, addresses, fax numbers.....ANYTHING you guys have.
 

Ns1

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It took me 3 weeks, 7 appointments, 5 technicians to get TW cable at my house. I win.

Same story: we need to run a line from the main box to your apt. 3 TW reps came and neither one told the next one what was up, even though I repeatedly called and asked for a line job.

2 independent contractors came and finally did the job when the boss had to come out. I actually cussed at the CSR rep, which never happens.

 

Platypus

Lifer
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I had nothing but good service when I had TW.. YMMV apparently.

Comcast on the other hand has been a fucking nightmare for me.

They all suck, don't even consider wasting your time with these people, they really don't care about you and no matter how many 'managers' you explain your sob story to they really still don't give a shit and never will.
 

pravi333

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most of them are like that. comcast gave me a time of 3 - 6pm and he came at 7pm but that lady in the cs gave me a $20 discount on my 1st months bill.
In a different house i wanted my cable to sit in a different room & optimum tech said it'll cost me $100 to run it to a different room than the one it is now.
 

Captante

Lifer
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I've had great service from both Comcast and Cablevision so its def a case of YMMV.
 

aircooled

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I hate TW just because of their customer service, but I've always scheduled my appointments about 1 week out and they have always been there when they said they would be. I'll get a chance to see again next week as I have an appointment on the 1st to transfer my service.
 

DrPizza

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Hey, I'd happily go through what you went through in order to have cable internet speeds. It took multiple *months* before an installer finally came to hook up my satellite dish.
 

dyna

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A buddy of mine went through hell with them. He had internet installed. Well they did the installation but they left the cable running on top of the ground, in a neighborhood alley. They said they would come back and bury it. It seems the work to bury it was too hard, so he had to call and get them to replace the cable every month or so, because of cars running over it etc... In the meantime, he kept trying to get them to bury the cable. Many crews would come out, look at it, and drive off. So he took digital images of the entire cable and made post cards. The post cards were mailed to the executive offices and sure enough within a week or so, he got a call from the the corporate office and they aplogized and sent a crew and finally got it buried. This took about 6 months to get complete.
 

Crucial

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Good luck with getting money for "time wasted" It will never happen unless you take them to court and then I bet it still won't happen. Just get it installed and be done with it.
 

KeithP

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In California a complaint can be filed with the Public Utilities Commission in situations such as these. I would assume Texas has a similar agency. I had a problem with Pacific Bell and a DSL install at work once and called the PUC to complain. It was amazing how quickly Pac Bell reacted to that. The problem was resolved shortly thereafter.

Is DSL available in your area? If so, next time you get someone of authority on the phone from TW, calmly tell them if they don't have the install done to your satisfaction by (insert date here) you will cancel the install and go with DirectTV and DSL. That might get them moving a bit faster. I have also found that being nice, but very firm is the right attitude to have when dealing with people in this sort of situation. The thing is, the employee you are talking with might be just as frustrated with the company as you are. Don't take any crap, but don't get excited or angry on the phone either.

It took me two weeks to get TW to "authorize" the high definition DVR I got from THEIR office. I won't go into details but all they had to do is flip a switch somewhere to let the DVR work and it took a half dozen calls and two weeks to get it done!!

-KeithP
 

Sentrosi2121

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Man, what a runaround!

After I got done with CSR#1 (The first person you talked to) I would have said to the next person, "Are you the manager? If you answer no, then you go find him or her." And I would have kept this up until I got ahold of the manager. At that point I would have asked for the tech supervisor and get him on the phone as well. Between those two people you would have had your problem resolved in a hurry.

Never deal with middle management. They're there to act as a buffer in these sort of cases. You want something resolved, you go talk to the BMOC (Big Man On Campus).

 

Haui

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Originally posted by: Sentrosi2121
Man, what a runaround!

After I got done with CSR#1 (The first person you talked to) I would have said to the next person, "Are you the manager? If you answer no, then you go find him or her." And I would have kept this up until I got ahold of the manager. At that point I would have asked for the tech supervisor and get him on the phone as well. Between those two people you would have had your problem resolved in a hurry.

Never deal with middle management. They're there to act as a buffer in these sort of cases. You want something resolved, you go talk to the BMOC (Big Man On Campus).

You dont understand......THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. I was routed to several different departments (fucking idiots just sending the caller to someone else, in hopes he would give up)
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: Haui
I had a thread going a few weeks ago about Time Warners AWESOME turn around service to get my service transffered to my new home. That day has come and gone.....and now do I have a story for you!

I called about 3 weeks ago to have my cable internet transferred over to my new home. They said they would have someone come out on the 30th of this month after 6pm. Mind you, I called back on July 12th. I called in DAILY in hopes of a sooner spot opening up (something I was told to try). On Sunday night I called in and asked.....they said they had an 8am -11am opening on the 26th (yesterday). I put the lady on hold to discuss with my fiance. We both agreed that we had to work and could not do it. I came back on the phone and told the lady we couldnt. However, she went ahead and did it, but when we said no, she was like "Well, the 30th has already been taken again" leaving us with no option other than taking the 26th at 8 am - 11am.

I was somewhat pissed....but I had to take off work for it.

Thursday came and I waited.....8am - 11am........and 11 passed by. I called TW and they said the tech was on his way. I told them this was unacceptable. He didnt call or anything until 11:30 and didnt arrive until 11:45. I was pissed. I was already passed the time I told my boss I would try to be back in. Why you ask. Well, this was a simple hookup and should NOT have taken long. Anywhoo, the guy comes in and wants to see the room where the cable modem is. We take a look at its all ready to go....all he needs to do is his thing out at the cable box outside (the ground) and bring in the cable modem. The wire was already ran previously (past owner had cable tv from TW).

So he does his thing, comes inside, hooks up the cable modem......no go.....blinking lights. This meant no connection. He tried several different things, nothing would work. He went outside and tested the main line that came to the cable box (where they turn the cable on) and it worked fine. So he determined that they needed to do a new drop cable from the cable box to the house (which would require them to bury it). By this time, we are hitting 12:30pm. I told him I HAD to go into work, there was no option. We finished EVERYTHING we needed to inside my home and he advised me that I could leave and that he would be running a temp drop cable and within a few days, he would have someone out here to bury it. He said he would have it all hooked up and running tonight when I get home. I was fine with that.

He had my cell phone number and I had his. I told him that if he needed ANYTHING or needed to get into the house, to call and I would have someone come. I never got a call. I called about mid-afternoon to see how it all was going...no answer, no call back (I left a voicemail). I assumed all was fine and going well......that is....until I came home.

I got home around 6:30pm expecting to see a cable ran across my driveway and was expecting to have internet when I got home (I even told my boss I would be working from home a little). I get home.......NO CABLE ran.......so I walk upstairs thinking that no cable needed to be ran and the cable modem would be working. That was not the case. I received no phone call, note, any type of message saying what was done/wrong/working/not working. I went around and found that the cable that was ran along the house "previously" that was ran on the wood, had NOW been moved about 4 feet down.....they guy drilled into my brick and didnt ask, notify or anything. I didnt ask him or even authorize him to do so.

I spent the next several hours on the phone with TW. The first two hours I explained my situation to several different people. One guy said the next available time they could come out was Augst 24th. I laughed at him and said he better try again.......as I again told him how pissed I was. He said there was a date open this coming Saturday from 8am - 12noon. I said......"No, I want someone here tonight or first thing when I get home from work tomorrow". He couldnt do it. I finally agreed on the Saturday time....but I was not satisfied with the solution - THE TECHNICIAN DIDNT DO HE FUCKING JOB AND HE ALTERED MY HOUSE. Someone had to pay and answer me. I did NOT give up. I spoke with several different people about this....TRYING to get to a supervisor/manager. Let me tell you, they sure give you the run around.

I cooked dinner and decided to try again after dinner. I spent another hour talking to people and FINALLY got ahold of a manager. I explained EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING that had happened up until this point. He set me up to have a technician come out and take care of it today after 5pm.

So this is where I stand.....waiting again (im at work though). Regardless of whether or not they come and complete the task....im am thinking of going farther than just a manager at this point. Time Warner and MOST cable companies treat customers as if TW is doing them a favor by allowing them to pay for their service. I have had nothing but bad experiences with them......and I want your opinion.

Should I take this further.......time wasted waiting (making them pay for time missed at work), the alteration of my house (I consider it damages), and the time wasted on my cell phone talking to them.


I want to know your thoughts......what should I do next - regardless of whether they complete the job tonight or not.?

Cliffs - forget it......if you are a paying TW customer - you will respect my story and nightmare.

I am pretty sure I left out alot......so i will add if needed. If some of this doesn't make sense, ask me. I am looking for opinions and suggestions of what to do next.

yup, didnt read

/worthless
 

Haui

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Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: Haui
I had a thread going a few weeks ago about Time Warners AWESOME turn around service to get my service transffered to my new home. That day has come and gone.....and now do I have a story for you!

I called about 3 weeks ago to have my cable internet transferred over to my new home. They said they would have someone come out on the 30th of this month after 6pm. Mind you, I called back on July 12th. I called in DAILY in hopes of a sooner spot opening up (something I was told to try). On Sunday night I called in and asked.....they said they had an 8am -11am opening on the 26th (yesterday). I put the lady on hold to discuss with my fiance. We both agreed that we had to work and could not do it. I came back on the phone and told the lady we couldnt. However, she went ahead and did it, but when we said no, she was like "Well, the 30th has already been taken again" leaving us with no option other than taking the 26th at 8 am - 11am.

I was somewhat pissed....but I had to take off work for it.

Thursday came and I waited.....8am - 11am........and 11 passed by. I called TW and they said the tech was on his way. I told them this was unacceptable. He didnt call or anything until 11:30 and didnt arrive until 11:45. I was pissed. I was already passed the time I told my boss I would try to be back in. Why you ask. Well, this was a simple hookup and should NOT have taken long. Anywhoo, the guy comes in and wants to see the room where the cable modem is. We take a look at its all ready to go....all he needs to do is his thing out at the cable box outside (the ground) and bring in the cable modem. The wire was already ran previously (past owner had cable tv from TW).

So he does his thing, comes inside, hooks up the cable modem......no go.....blinking lights. This meant no connection. He tried several different things, nothing would work. He went outside and tested the main line that came to the cable box (where they turn the cable on) and it worked fine. So he determined that they needed to do a new drop cable from the cable box to the house (which would require them to bury it). By this time, we are hitting 12:30pm. I told him I HAD to go into work, there was no option. We finished EVERYTHING we needed to inside my home and he advised me that I could leave and that he would be running a temp drop cable and within a few days, he would have someone out here to bury it. He said he would have it all hooked up and running tonight when I get home. I was fine with that.

He had my cell phone number and I had his. I told him that if he needed ANYTHING or needed to get into the house, to call and I would have someone come. I never got a call. I called about mid-afternoon to see how it all was going...no answer, no call back (I left a voicemail). I assumed all was fine and going well......that is....until I came home.

I got home around 6:30pm expecting to see a cable ran across my driveway and was expecting to have internet when I got home (I even told my boss I would be working from home a little). I get home.......NO CABLE ran.......so I walk upstairs thinking that no cable needed to be ran and the cable modem would be working. That was not the case. I received no phone call, note, any type of message saying what was done/wrong/working/not working. I went around and found that the cable that was ran along the house "previously" that was ran on the wood, had NOW been moved about 4 feet down.....they guy drilled into my brick and didnt ask, notify or anything. I didnt ask him or even authorize him to do so.

I spent the next several hours on the phone with TW. The first two hours I explained my situation to several different people. One guy said the next available time they could come out was Augst 24th. I laughed at him and said he better try again.......as I again told him how pissed I was. He said there was a date open this coming Saturday from 8am - 12noon. I said......"No, I want someone here tonight or first thing when I get home from work tomorrow". He couldnt do it. I finally agreed on the Saturday time....but I was not satisfied with the solution - THE TECHNICIAN DIDNT DO HE FUCKING JOB AND HE ALTERED MY HOUSE. Someone had to pay and answer me. I did NOT give up. I spoke with several different people about this....TRYING to get to a supervisor/manager. Let me tell you, they sure give you the run around.

I cooked dinner and decided to try again after dinner. I spent another hour talking to people and FINALLY got ahold of a manager. I explained EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING that had happened up until this point. He set me up to have a technician come out and take care of it today after 5pm.

So this is where I stand.....waiting again (im at work though). Regardless of whether or not they come and complete the task....im am thinking of going farther than just a manager at this point. Time Warner and MOST cable companies treat customers as if TW is doing them a favor by allowing them to pay for their service. I have had nothing but bad experiences with them......and I want your opinion.

Should I take this further.......time wasted waiting (making them pay for time missed at work), the alteration of my house (I consider it damages), and the time wasted on my cell phone talking to them.


I want to know your thoughts......what should I do next - regardless of whether they complete the job tonight or not.?

Cliffs - forget it......if you are a paying TW customer - you will respect my story and nightmare.

I am pretty sure I left out alot......so i will add if needed. If some of this doesn't make sense, ask me. I am looking for opinions and suggestions of what to do next.

yup, didnt read

/worthless


Does ANYONE care?
 

jersiq

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Yeah I had a hard time with Time Warner installation in Houston.
Long story short, the installer (independent contractor) came out and said my signal was too low to have both basic cable and a cable modem (odd considering the Terminal box was in my backyard). He tried to sell me an amplifier which from what I've read doesn't work well with a cable modem.

I told him "no, it's TW's problem", called CS and was told it would be a 5 business day wait to get a tech out to my house to look at the output from the box. I just happenned to be home when the tech came, and saw him go to my backyard to "inspect" the terminal box. His inspection consisted of looking at the terminal box, and scratching his ass a couple of times. I was undressed after a shower, and by the time I dressed and went outside, he was long gone.

Called CS again, and was told it would take another 5 business days to get another tech out there, except this time the service call would cost me $200.

So now here I am, only able to watch basic cable, but I have already paid for one month of internet, and my next bill was on the way. In order for me to get the service I was being charged, I had to pay an additional amount. Sorry TW, that's poor business practice. I canceled right then and there, called TELCO and Directtv both of whom had me up and running in 3 days.

Unfortunately in TX, IIRC the cable co's are not regulated by the PUC, so there was really no recourse for me.
 

Haui

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Originally posted by: jersiq
Yeah I had a hard time with Time Warner installation in Houston.
Long story short, the installer (independent contractor) came out and said my signal was too low to have both basic cable and a cable modem (odd considering the Terminal box was in my backyard). He tried to sell me an amplifier which from what I've read doesn't work well with a cable modem.

I told him "no, it's TW's problem", called CS and was told it would be a 5 business day wait to get a tech out to my house to look at the output from the box. I just happenned to be home when the tech came, and saw him go to my backyard to "inspect" the terminal box. His inspection consisted of looking at the terminal box, and scratching his ass a couple of times. I was undressed after a shower, and by the time I dressed and went outside, he was long gone.

Called CS again, and was told it would take another 5 business days to get another tech out there, except this time the service call would cost me $200.

So now here I am, only able to watch basic cable, but I have already paid for one month of internet, and my next bill was on the way. In order for me to get the service I was being charged, I had to pay an additional amount. Sorry TW, that's poor business practice. I canceled right then and there, called TELCO and Directtv both of whom had me up and running in 3 days.

Unfortunately in TX, IIRC the cable co's are not regulated by the PUC, so there was really no recourse for me.



I do have the cell phoen # of the technician.....anyone want to call this guy up?
 

Crucial

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Originally posted by: Haui
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: Haui
lOOOOOOOng rant.

yup, didnt read

/worthless


Does ANYONE care?

Sorry to say, not really. This is typical of cable companies. They have so many customers and so much money they don't care if they lose a few. Even if someone worked for time warner it wouldn't help as departments within the company don't even work well together. A friend of mine works in the NOC at TW here and he complains about the company all the time. He can't get anything done any faster for me or his family if we have problems because of all the hoops people have to jump through there.

In the end you will either get your service and forget about the hassle muttering under your breath whenever someone mentions cable or you will get mad enough to take your money elsewhere and get what will probably be an inferior product like DSL. Unless you are one of the lucky few who can get FIOS.

 

Haui

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I just spoke with Time Warners technical leason and an executive....... I will let you guys know how this pans out.

See....persistance pays off. I am doing this for all of us!
 

thepd7

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Originally posted by: Crucial
Originally posted by: Haui
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: Haui
lOOOOOOOng rant.

yup, didnt read

/worthless


Does ANYONE care?

Sorry to say, not really. This is typical of cable companies. They have so many customers and so much money they don't care if they lose a few. Even if someone worked for time warner it wouldn't help as departments within the company don't even work well together. A friend of mine works in the NOC at TW here and he complains about the company all the time. He can't get anything done any faster for me or his family if we have problems because of all the hoops people have to jump through there.

In the end you will either get your service and forget about the hassle muttering under your breath whenever someone mentions cable or you will get mad enough to take your money elsewhere and get what will probably be an inferior product like DSL. Unless you are one of the lucky few who can get FIOS.

You are absolutely right, but cable's time is coming. Their years of bad service is going to bite them in the ass when FIOS is available most places. I doubt it will actually happen but I hope that the big companies (TW, Comcast, etc) lose enough business to FIOS that they have to actually respect their customers.
 

James Bond

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Good luck! I cannot stand cable companies... literally the worst customer support on the planet.

I hope you accomplish something... anything!
 

torpid

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I am quite certain they are legally obligated to reimburse you if they did not show up on time. At least here they are. You will need to check the paperwork you signed when he showed up to know whether you authorized him to alter your home.

I do not fully understand the situation though... they drilled your brick and did not have the cable working even after that?