Edit: You know what, you people really don't seem to care. It is not that the thing ran out, Windows somehow messed itself up after I restarted the computer. You people obviously have no idea how frustrating it is to have to reformat a computer 3 times in a month. It is extremely time-consuming, and time is not something I have, as I have school work. And I still entirely disagree with Windows Activation. A person should not have to buy multiple copies just to run the program on both computers, or go out and buy a more expensive version that you can use on many. At this point, I am going to have to reformat again, taking yet more of my time. It is really getting out of hand, how much time I have spent on that computer in the past month, after upgrading this one and transferring stuff over and then having to reformat multiple times. Windows XP, to this point, had been absolutely stable for 2 or so weeks, and then out of nowhere it freezes and upon restarting I can't login. It is not my fault at all that Windows somehow managed to mess itself up, forcing me to repair it...This stuff just seems to happen randomly. On to a reformat, which will likely take me ALL of tomorrow...Thanks for all your help...
TIME TO VENT
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Well ranting will not help and what you want to do will not work unless they are exactly the same. How long have you been using the so called cracked version? maybe it was not cracked and the time just ran out. This is not really the board that you want to post on about cracked or not legal usage of any program, if I were you I would edit this part out of your post as the forum management is really strict about this.
Bleep
Bleep
While I may, or may not, agree with Microsoft's "activation" policy, IMO this is not Microsoft's fault, it is yours. YOU are trying to run software on two computers, where the terms of use state pretty clearly that you may only use the software on one computer. YOU agreed to this agreement (by virtue of buying and using the software). As a side answer, calling Microsoft and getting a different activation number is still only going to work on one PC, as you will have to give them a set of unique numbers (generated from your hardware) before they give you a different set (specifically for that computer), so one of your PCs is still not going to work. And as Bleep mentioned, using illegal software and then flaunting it/bragging about it here is not a good idea, as the mods don't have much tolerance for it.
\Dan
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"Who is more the fool? The fool himself, or the one who follows him?"
\Dan
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"Who is more the fool? The fool himself, or the one who follows him?"
you have the same choice as all of us... maybe you'll see the light now and come over from the dark side... give a real OS a try 
Originally posted by: Abzstrak
you have the same choice as all of us... maybe you'll see the light now and come over from the dark side... give a real OS a try
Uhhhh, Dos?
Ugggghhhh, please don't edit the hell out of the original post. It makes it pretty hard to follow a thread, although this one was fairly easy to smoke out as a warez issue. Move on folks, nothing to see here. Move along, thats right....
You are the perfect candidate for Knoppix Linux. Download & burn yourself a CD copy & under 2 minutes boot time you will have a solid OS/apps that travel with you.
Or, get your friend to burn you a copy if your computer is absolutely down.
Boohoo. If you are having this many problems with legitimate software, I would say it sounds like a hardware problem.
Well, actually, I DID just upgrade the video card (got a new GeForce 4 ti4400 for this one, and put my old Mx420 in the old (broken down) one).
If I were to go with one of the Linux OS's, would I have problems running Windows programs or networking the computer to this (Windows XP) version? Because that definetly sounds like a good option.
If I were to go with one of the Linux OS's, would I have problems running Windows programs or networking the computer to this (Windows XP) version? Because that definetly sounds like a good option.
Some Windows programs such as MS Office & Media player some what works on a Linux machine through Wine/Codeweavers. Most if not all Windows apps that support Win9.x works perfectly under Win4Lin. There is also VMware that works through emulation.
The only problem that you might have with networking between OSes is leaning how to config Samba & NFS.
I've been fiddling around with wine for a while now. Sometimes things work and other times they don't. After messing around with a config file for the umpteenth time trying to get some MS only app to work, you'll find a whole new meaning to the phrase "eternal pain".
Trust me, this is the easy part of dealing with linux. Samba is so simple too set-up and there are so many programs that do this automatically, a nine year old could probably get it running.
Edit: Not realy, but to respond to one:
I find people on this forum do actually care. If you want help with your illegal software, don't come someplace like this.
\Dan
I find people on this forum do actually care. If you want help with your illegal software, don't come someplace like this.
\Dan
I have to agree tht the reg system sucks butt, but if you want XP, ya gotta deal with it.
Yes, there are reg cracks out there, but every one has some kind of problem that some folks don't mind working around, but it's too much of a PITA for me.
Besides, I went back to 2k for the reg issues among others.
Yes, there are reg cracks out there, but every one has some kind of problem that some folks don't mind working around, but it's too much of a PITA for me.
Besides, I went back to 2k for the reg issues among others.
<<You people obviously have no idea how frustrating it is to have to reformat a computer 3 times in a month>>
Hehe: I format my hard disk once every week (for Beta testing OS's..
Reformatting a computer.. what exactly do you do? Interchange the locations of the memory modules? PCI cards? Place the HDD outside the chassis?
Any images? Manuals to show that? I am sure it might be helpful to many ppl
Hehe: I format my hard disk once every week (for Beta testing OS's..
Reformatting a computer.. what exactly do you do? Interchange the locations of the memory modules? PCI cards? Place the HDD outside the chassis?
Any images? Manuals to show that? I am sure it might be helpful to many ppl
NYHoustonman, if XP is having that many problems on your computer, I'd be willing to bet you have a problem with your hardware, so don't be so quick to blame Microsoft. Let me guess, you're an overclocker?
Yes, you should pay for each copy of XP you run. Why should you get to run XP on two computers for the price of one?
Yes, you should pay for each copy of XP you run. Why should you get to run XP on two computers for the price of one?
there are plenty ways around the Microsoft liscencing BS without worrying about legal issues and in a way that Bill Gates will never be able to touch you...
They are:
1. Linux
2. FreeBSD
3. OS X
Hey look at it this way, if you need to have a nice computer you can use for writing reports and stuff like that for school. A new copy of XP costs 89 dollars (after "special" deals and rebates). (However if you compare linux's flexibility and server ability it compares more closely to w2k Advanced Server with a price tag of close to 2500 dollars, but that's not what you want.) But that's not all you'll need, of course you need to make reports and write presentable papers and stuff so wordpad just ain't gonna cut it, so you'll need a office suite, like well.. Micorsoft Office Suite (go figure). And that baby goes for about 116 dollars for the "student and teacher" liscence. Of course you will be restricted to using these products for your own personal use, if you'd want to use them professionally you'd have to upgrade the liscences. Office XP standard goes for 426 dollars and XP pro will run you 226 bucks.(for almost exactly same software)
OK so thats from $200 to $660 depending on what you plan on using it for. You are restricted in what you can do with this software and you are automaticly tied to it for a long time with Microsoft's insistance in using only propriatory formats and refusing to properly support established standards
Now you have a Open Source solutions provided by linux and freinds. Ok you can be cheap and get OpenOffice.org's product and any linux distro for free, just download it from the net. however the only problem with that is that you are expected to be able to support your own install and operation with the ample amount of documentation avaliable on the web. If you want support like you'd expect from MS then you'll have to pay for it. That's how Redhat and other commercial distros stay in business. So you'd maybe want to pay the 90 dollars or so for a full fledged Redhat distro with all bells and whistles. Also you'd want to purchese the StarOffice suit (which is OpenOffice.org's big commercial brother) which is a viable direct competetor with MS for about 80 dollars. Both OpenOffice.org and StarOffice are compatable with MS Office.
So that's a range of $0 to close to $200 dollars. With this you'd get the ability to use this software any way you'd want, you can give it away to your freinds and nobody will complain or even care all that much. It is basicly just as effective as anything from MS and If you learn more than just what is needed to run it. Linux has the potential for much more. It's only limited by your knowledge and skill, not dubious liscencing agreements)
For a long time I had the attitude that was: well dammit MS is major suxor! Bill Gate's ripped so many people off and eats independent developers for breakfast thru bad business practices... why don't I rip him off? I paid for this crappy OS (win98 at the time) and so has everybody else I knew thur buying PC's. What the hell do I care? It's not like anybody is going to give a S**T anyways, hell most people would do it too if they were in a position to profit from it.
And as I matured I realised I was just screwing myself over. OK now I have this stolen software (win98 with a cd key from office 97 which I scammed from school). It's buggy and prone to memory leaks, I can't even set up a decent proxy or server with it to share my internet connection. It's pretty much useless for anything other than surfing the web, playing games, or writing reports. I suppose I could rip off visual basic or find some freeware ftp server to screw around with. But what's the point? win98 was crapping out about a hundred times a day. I trained to be super sensitive to what I ran on it, because It was irritating to have to reinstall it every couple months to clear it up and get the performance I expected. I was smart enough to avoid any viruses (screw outlook), but i always had to be very carefull because I was to poor too afford any decent virus protection. I suppose I could of ripped off one, but I was to lazy and I hated the performance hit. W2k was starting, but I started to feel guitly for being such a thief. People worked hard to make this crappy software.
Ah then there was linux! hard to use, but stable no memory leaks to speak off and pretty much immune to hackers and viruses if used correctly set up. Plus Free software was all about freedom, people being able to profit from there own efforts, without having to be behouldent to a larger authority. Many programmers were screwed over by big companies like MS. They had their work stolen and had copyright law used against them. In order to win in court you had to prove you had code identical that predated the copyrighted code, needless to say the nature of the electronic medium did not lead to this type of proof. Bill Gates got big becuase he provided a product during a period when the rest of the industry had there heads up there a***s. He then used this cloat to bully individuals and small businesses for innovations and code. He would integrate these concepts and ideas into his OS. Large corporations do not lend themselves to innovation, large bureacracies by there nature stiffle creativity in order to create a efficent systems. MS ether bought out or crushed competition in order to gain these innovations. This is a natural part of compatition and is normally a good thing, but unfortantly the high paced world of computer technology outstripped the legal bureacracies' ability to keep up with it. A new company with good ideas would be created. MS would steal the product and then sue the small company for copyright infrignment. These litigations can go on for years. Combine with economic blackmail of distributers the small upstart corporation would be bankrupted out of existance in months.They would win the court if they existed by the time it ended.... This worked for MS up untill it tried to take on companies that were large enough to be able to survive long enough to bring anti-competive lawsuits to fruit. (IE versus Netscape and the whole Sun Java stuff) But innovation in a free country/world will win out eventually. The people who founded a way to play the copyright game and create agreements that were so alien, so outside the scope of Bill Gate's mental concepts of the world that after years of hard work they still haven't figured out a way to stiffle it. How do you fight a product that as one of it's main requirements is that you have to give it away for free? With the legal bases to defend itself thru proper documentation using the GPL/BSD-type liscencing MS couldn't use one of it's favorites weapons: litigate away compitation.
Now with this history of struggle and success combined with my own geeky flavor of a anarchist streak and the prospect of having a OS that while free as-all-get-out is also stable, flexible and powerfull. How could I resist it? Now I can work hard and study, learn all I can about computer systems and the ability to foward my professional career with the knowledge I gain thru experimentation, all with out having to worry about going to jail (which realy sucks). Linux is some damn good stuff in my book.
(why must i rant on like this... once I start I can't stop)
They are:
1. Linux
2. FreeBSD
3. OS X
Hey look at it this way, if you need to have a nice computer you can use for writing reports and stuff like that for school. A new copy of XP costs 89 dollars (after "special" deals and rebates). (However if you compare linux's flexibility and server ability it compares more closely to w2k Advanced Server with a price tag of close to 2500 dollars, but that's not what you want.) But that's not all you'll need, of course you need to make reports and write presentable papers and stuff so wordpad just ain't gonna cut it, so you'll need a office suite, like well.. Micorsoft Office Suite (go figure). And that baby goes for about 116 dollars for the "student and teacher" liscence. Of course you will be restricted to using these products for your own personal use, if you'd want to use them professionally you'd have to upgrade the liscences. Office XP standard goes for 426 dollars and XP pro will run you 226 bucks.(for almost exactly same software)
OK so thats from $200 to $660 depending on what you plan on using it for. You are restricted in what you can do with this software and you are automaticly tied to it for a long time with Microsoft's insistance in using only propriatory formats and refusing to properly support established standards
Now you have a Open Source solutions provided by linux and freinds. Ok you can be cheap and get OpenOffice.org's product and any linux distro for free, just download it from the net. however the only problem with that is that you are expected to be able to support your own install and operation with the ample amount of documentation avaliable on the web. If you want support like you'd expect from MS then you'll have to pay for it. That's how Redhat and other commercial distros stay in business. So you'd maybe want to pay the 90 dollars or so for a full fledged Redhat distro with all bells and whistles. Also you'd want to purchese the StarOffice suit (which is OpenOffice.org's big commercial brother) which is a viable direct competetor with MS for about 80 dollars. Both OpenOffice.org and StarOffice are compatable with MS Office.
So that's a range of $0 to close to $200 dollars. With this you'd get the ability to use this software any way you'd want, you can give it away to your freinds and nobody will complain or even care all that much. It is basicly just as effective as anything from MS and If you learn more than just what is needed to run it. Linux has the potential for much more. It's only limited by your knowledge and skill, not dubious liscencing agreements)
For a long time I had the attitude that was: well dammit MS is major suxor! Bill Gate's ripped so many people off and eats independent developers for breakfast thru bad business practices... why don't I rip him off? I paid for this crappy OS (win98 at the time) and so has everybody else I knew thur buying PC's. What the hell do I care? It's not like anybody is going to give a S**T anyways, hell most people would do it too if they were in a position to profit from it.
And as I matured I realised I was just screwing myself over. OK now I have this stolen software (win98 with a cd key from office 97 which I scammed from school). It's buggy and prone to memory leaks, I can't even set up a decent proxy or server with it to share my internet connection. It's pretty much useless for anything other than surfing the web, playing games, or writing reports. I suppose I could rip off visual basic or find some freeware ftp server to screw around with. But what's the point? win98 was crapping out about a hundred times a day. I trained to be super sensitive to what I ran on it, because It was irritating to have to reinstall it every couple months to clear it up and get the performance I expected. I was smart enough to avoid any viruses (screw outlook), but i always had to be very carefull because I was to poor too afford any decent virus protection. I suppose I could of ripped off one, but I was to lazy and I hated the performance hit. W2k was starting, but I started to feel guitly for being such a thief. People worked hard to make this crappy software.
Ah then there was linux! hard to use, but stable no memory leaks to speak off and pretty much immune to hackers and viruses if used correctly set up. Plus Free software was all about freedom, people being able to profit from there own efforts, without having to be behouldent to a larger authority. Many programmers were screwed over by big companies like MS. They had their work stolen and had copyright law used against them. In order to win in court you had to prove you had code identical that predated the copyrighted code, needless to say the nature of the electronic medium did not lead to this type of proof. Bill Gates got big becuase he provided a product during a period when the rest of the industry had there heads up there a***s. He then used this cloat to bully individuals and small businesses for innovations and code. He would integrate these concepts and ideas into his OS. Large corporations do not lend themselves to innovation, large bureacracies by there nature stiffle creativity in order to create a efficent systems. MS ether bought out or crushed competition in order to gain these innovations. This is a natural part of compatition and is normally a good thing, but unfortantly the high paced world of computer technology outstripped the legal bureacracies' ability to keep up with it. A new company with good ideas would be created. MS would steal the product and then sue the small company for copyright infrignment. These litigations can go on for years. Combine with economic blackmail of distributers the small upstart corporation would be bankrupted out of existance in months.They would win the court if they existed by the time it ended.... This worked for MS up untill it tried to take on companies that were large enough to be able to survive long enough to bring anti-competive lawsuits to fruit. (IE versus Netscape and the whole Sun Java stuff) But innovation in a free country/world will win out eventually. The people who founded a way to play the copyright game and create agreements that were so alien, so outside the scope of Bill Gate's mental concepts of the world that after years of hard work they still haven't figured out a way to stiffle it. How do you fight a product that as one of it's main requirements is that you have to give it away for free? With the legal bases to defend itself thru proper documentation using the GPL/BSD-type liscencing MS couldn't use one of it's favorites weapons: litigate away compitation.
Now with this history of struggle and success combined with my own geeky flavor of a anarchist streak and the prospect of having a OS that while free as-all-get-out is also stable, flexible and powerfull. How could I resist it? Now I can work hard and study, learn all I can about computer systems and the ability to foward my professional career with the knowledge I gain thru experimentation, all with out having to worry about going to jail (which realy sucks). Linux is some damn good stuff in my book.
(why must i rant on like this... once I start I can't stop)
Here in the UK, we are required to purchase a TV licence, which is equivalent to maybe $150 a year, otherwise you're breaking the law and can recieve a heavy fine.
But, this one licence allows you to have and operate as many TVs as you like in your home.
Surely the same should apply with Product Activation, in that if I have three PCs in my home, then when I buy a licence, it should be applicable to all PCs in my home, right, since I'm the rightful owner of the equipment.
To me, this MS licence and product activation is just an excuse to wring more money from our pockets and it certainly doesn't stop piracy, as is evident from a quick glance on Kazaa, or indeed, the recent emergence of Longhorn on the net.
The licence should be applied to the home, not by the amount of equipment an individual has.
Michael.
But, this one licence allows you to have and operate as many TVs as you like in your home.
Surely the same should apply with Product Activation, in that if I have three PCs in my home, then when I buy a licence, it should be applicable to all PCs in my home, right, since I'm the rightful owner of the equipment.
To me, this MS licence and product activation is just an excuse to wring more money from our pockets and it certainly doesn't stop piracy, as is evident from a quick glance on Kazaa, or indeed, the recent emergence of Longhorn on the net.
The licence should be applied to the home, not by the amount of equipment an individual has.
Michael.
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Windows messed itself up after restart did it? It definetly must be Microsoft's fault, definetly not yours.
Many people run perfectly stable, like myself, and I have NEVER had ANY problems. You probaly just don't know what you're doing
Windows XP is still great, despite its activation. Just learn how to use it.
Many people run perfectly stable, like myself, and I have NEVER had ANY problems. You probaly just don't know what you're doing
Windows XP is still great, despite its activation. Just learn how to use it.
Microsoft offers corporate licensing. If the UK government decided to apply licensing by TV you would have to pay. Microsoft has their way of licensing things, and they do not think a home license is in their best interrests. Get over it. Grow up. Shut up. Go away.
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