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Discussion Time to Talk About Our Team's Future Home

S

Skillz

Golden Member
Hey everyone,


I want to start a conversation about something that's been on my mind, and I think it's time we address it as a team.


The Situation


As we all know, AnandTech.com has been our home base for years. But the reality is that Future PLC shut down the main site over a year ago—the reviews, the news, everything that made AnandTech what it was. They kept the forums running, but let's be honest: they also own Tom's Hardware, which seems to be where their focus is. The writing is on the wall.


The Risk


Here's what concerns me: when Future decides to pull the plug on the forums, they're not going to give us advance notice. They didn't warn anyone before shutting down the main site, and they won't warn us about the forums either. One day we'll just show up and find it gone. At that point, we'll be scrambling to keep the team together, coordinate our efforts, and maintain the community we've built.


A Proactive Solution


Instead of waiting for that to happen, I think we should consider TheFPSReview.com as our new home. Here's why:


  • They're a true successor to the old AnandTech/HardOCP model: written hardware reviews and benchmarks by enthusiasts who care about the tech
  • They're only 7 years old but growing, with a commitment to the kind of content we value
  • They don't have a DC team yet—which means we could be their team, not just another team squatting on their forums
  • Making this move now, on our terms, means we maintain control and continuity

What This Means


I'm not suggesting we abandon our infrastructure or identity overnight. We still have our own resources and ways of coordinating. But having a stable forum home that aligns with our community's values—before we're forced to find one in a panic—just makes sense.


I'd love to hear your thoughts. Are there other sites you think we should consider? Am I overreacting to the Future situation? Let's discuss this as a team and make the best decision for our future.
 
I'm of the opinion that it's time to move on and the longer we wait the more difficult the transition will be. I don't really care where we move to, but the FPS Review is as good of a place as any and it's a solid review site with a good forum so I'm in favor of that. I think it's incredibly likely that these forums are going to shut off at some point probably sooner rather than later with no notice. If we wait for that to occur it will be a more difficult transition than it needs to be. It has been over a year since the main site shut down so it's just a matter of time until the forums do as well - honestly we're probably fortunate that they're even still currently up. In my opinion these are the two most important thing, in order of priority -

1. I would like the team to stay as intact as possible. I don't really care what we call ourselves or where our home forum is, but I think the team we have and the members on it are something special and we're currently kicking some major butt on Primegrid challenges, the pentathlon, BOINC Games, etc. Every person on the team is a valued member, and I would hate for any action we take (or inaction) to result in the team fracturing. If there are people on the team that would not stick with us through the transition to another team name or forum now is the time to speak up and clearly state it so we know the situation. I don't think the Anandtech name is what makes this team special, it's the members on it

2. Transferring over most of the team history would be ideal. BOINC should be easy enough to just change the team name. The Team Anandtech Committee is the founder on most projects. There are a handful that they are not but ownership can be transferred. It won't be possible to change the name on old shut down projects though but it is what it is. Folding@home will be a bit more complicated as we'll have to get ownership transferred and work with them to get the name changed but it should be doable. Distributed.net I'm not super familiar with but they do have an IRC channel so hopefully they could assist with that. I'm not sure what else is involved on Distributed.net, wasn't there a Team Anandtech proxy setup for it or something like that? Is that still in use? In theory if we're able to change the team names everywhere then it will be a seamless transition without people having to change teams on each BOINC project, etc. which would be a huge hassle

Change is difficult, I think everybody on the team would prefer that Anandtech still be a thriving hardware review website and we could just keep operating as business as usual, but that's clearly not the situation here and the longer we wait the more painful any transition will be. I'm in favor of the move to TheFPSReview
 
I was doing some more thinking. Replace Review with "Team" so it's "The FPS Team."

Then keep the team name "TeAm" as a homage to where we came from.

This way, in the future if this happens again we can just become "The 'Flops per second' Team" but it still lines up with TheFPSReview.

Thoughts?
 
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I registered at Anandtech back in 1999 for hardware reviews, eventually got involved with Seti, then FAH, then Rosetta, etc., etc. If I know anything it’s that things change over time. Seti shut down, Arecibo fell down, Anandtech shut down, so on and so forth.

I think it is reasonable to at least have a plan in place for the time our forum here follows suit.

I agree that FPS Review is a logical landing spot, but I would put out for consideration coming up with a team name generic enough to not be proprietary. In other words, do not name the team for the FPS website or we risk the same fate we are in now. Groundhog Day all over again.

Pick a team name that doesn’t have to be changed again.
 
Pokey said:
I registered at Anandtech back in 1999 for hardware reviews, eventually got involved with Seti, then FAH, then Rosetta, etc., etc. If I know anything it’s that things change over time. Seti shut down, Arecibo fell down, Anandtech shut down, so on and so forth.

I think it is reasonable to at least have a plan in place for the time our forum here follows suit.

I agree that FPS Review is a logical landing spot, but I would put out for consideration coming up with a team name generic enough to not be proprietary. In other words, do not name the team for the FPS website or we risk the same fate we are in now. Groundhog Day all over again.

Pick a team name that doesn’t have to be changed again.
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That makes absolute sense. 😉
 
Pokey said:
Pick a team name that doesn’t have to be changed again.
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Completely agree, and that's exactly the thinking behind my suggestion of "The FPS TeAm".


It's close enough to TheFPSReview that there's a natural association when we first migrate—makes it easy for people to find us and understand the connection. But if TheFPSReview eventually shuts down, "The FPS TeAm" stands perfectly well on its own. And here's the clever part: while TheFPSReview focuses on FPS (frames per second) for gaming, our FPS stands for FLOPS (floating point operations per second)—which is exactly what we do with distributed computing.


We learned this lesson the hard way with Team AnandTech. Let's not repeat it.

Although we could go with a slightly modified version of what Ken_g6 said, but drop the "Review" part. Just "TeAm FPS."
 
If we want a unique name, and I think we do, there are a few instances of TAFPS, like:

github.com

GitHub - johndu9/TAFPS: Text Adventure FPS!

Text Adventure FPS! Contribute to johndu9/TAFPS development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com github.com

I found none for FPSTA. So Skillz' arrangement of the words might be better.

Meanwhile...

KMFJD said:
one of our last great refuge is about to be destroyed as well....

www.pcgamer.com

Oh, good: Discord's age verification rollout has ties to Palantir co-founder and panopticon architect Peter Thiel

Discord is "experimenting" with an age authentication vendor whose major investors include Thiel's Founders Fund.
www.pcgamer.com www.pcgamer.com

cause no ones giving palantir and thiel their id.....
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Skillz said:
I was doing some more thinking. Replace Review with "Team" so it's "The FPS Team."

Then keep the team name "TeAm" as a homage to where we came from.

This way, in the future if this happens again we can just become "The 'Flops per second' Team" but it still lines up with TheFPSReview.

Thoughts?
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Skillz said:
Completely agree, and that's exactly the thinking behind my suggestion of "The FPS TeAm".


It's close enough to TheFPSReview that there's a natural association when we first migrate—makes it easy for people to find us and understand the connection. But if TheFPSReview eventually shuts down, "The FPS TeAm" stands perfectly well on its own. And here's the clever part: while TheFPSReview focuses on FPS (frames per second) for gaming, our FPS stands for FLOPS (floating point operations per second)—which is exactly what we do with distributed computing.


We learned this lesson the hard way with Team AnandTech. Let's not repeat it.

Although we could go with a slightly modified version of what Ken_g6 said, but drop the "Review" part. Just "TeAm FPS."
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The FPS TeAm name sounds good to me 👍 And the FPS site seems like a fine 2nd home too.
I registered to the FPS forum a few weeks ago as some of you may have noticed, I probably won't really post there much until this forum dies, unless people stop posting here beforehand of course!

I still can't believe AT is dieing after all this time 🙁, I was reading it before I had my own internet access, and joined the forum just a couple of months after I did. Just this morning I wanted to re-read the last AMD CPU article they did (Ryzen 5?), but of course I can't!
Unless it's been saved elsewhere?

Anyway, glad you started a thread about it here, was thinking that needed doing.
I'm just wondering when we should switch names, perhaps not until this forum dies?
But I suppose delaying could mean an FPS team is created in the meantime?
Can teams be merged?? IF so, we could create FPS TeAm now then simply merger TA into it (I have a feeling we can't do that though).
 
Teams can not be merged on any DC project. So if someone creates a team, with the proposed name we plan to use, then we'd be forced to use that instead of switching our team name to it.
 
Assimilator1 said:
Just this morning I wanted to re-read the last AMD CPU article they did (Ryzen 5?), but of course I can't!
Unless it's been saved elsewhere?
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Here is a snapshot at the day of the "End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell" post:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240830122005/https://www.anandtech.com/
The Ryzen 9000 reviews:
https://web.archive.org/web/2024083...he-amd-ryzen-7-9700x-and-ryzen-5-9600x-review
https://web.archive.org/web/2024083...he-amd-ryzen-9-9950x-and-ryzen-9-9900x-review
 
Just by chance I wandered into the Political section of this forum this morning and what I saw was disgusting. It was even worse the the YellowBullet forums if you can believe that. Anyway, I've decided to not attach my person in any form to this forum moving forward. When the team decides where it is going to ultimately land I may return. I don't see any benefit being attached to any open forum actually.
 
Rollo said:
Just by chance I wandered into the Political section of this forum this morning and what I saw was disgusting. It was even worse the the YellowBullet forums if you can believe that. Anyway, I've decided to not attach my person in any form to this forum moving forward. When the team decides where it is going to ultimately land I may return. I don't see any benefit being attached to any open forum actually.
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Yeah I dislike the Political forum here, too. Bunch of retards there.

Just stick to TheFPSReview. 😉
 
Rollo said:
Just by chance I wandered into the Political section of this forum this morning and what I saw was disgusting. It was even worse the the YellowBullet forums if you can believe that. Anyway, I've decided to not attach my person in any form to this forum moving forward. When the team decides where it is going to ultimately land I may return. I don't see any benefit being attached to any open forum actually.
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Ultimately the distributed computing team is very much a separate entity from the rest of the forum/website which is part of why we're able to even have the discussion about moving the team elsewhere as this forum is going away, and why we have our own Discord, team forum, etc. We have people on the distributed computing team from a bunch of different countries, a bunch of different backgrounds and different political leanings. Generally within the team we don't discuss politics, but I know there are people from different political leanings just based on things I've picked up on over the years. With that said, though, I certainly understand if you don't want to be a part of it at this time and we appreciate the boost you've given us on FAH and we should be able to continue on your original goal of moving the team up another spot in the overall FAH rank.
 
This TeAm is a true team. When needed we all "Lock In", for the challenge, but outside of that... We all do other stuff.

I'm a bullshitter on the team also. So you better buck up or other! 🙂 I don't care that much! 🙂 I'm not trying to exclude anyone!!! But if you on this"Team" I hope when called upon that you can add something! 🙂
 
cellarnoise said:
I'll challenge you in something? You seem to like to just do whatever.. 🙂

What do you want to really run in Boinc? F@h, is just one thing?

I don't know what AF is really.. Is that just an "All Fart" or whatever? 🙂
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Just experimenting with BOINC atm...no clear goals as of yet.

AF is short for Alliance Francophone...where this all began. By next week I hope to have all my machines consolidated/up and running. My goal is/was to remove most of them out of my office and into the garage...slowly creeping up on it.
 
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