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Time to go, Hector

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demiurge3141

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I have always loved AMD. It is a travesty of justice that the man overseeing the rapid decline of AMD is the highest paid CEO in the semiconductor business, as another 10% of AMD employees lose their jobs. Has this man no shame? Many a Japanese businessman has committed seppuku over far less. Come on Hector, it is time to go.
 
Well its not like we should routinely expect a company with 25% of the resources be going around kicking the ass of the 80% market share gorilla.

AMD's situation is to be expected, I don't know why so many folks think designing chips is something you do with $5 and a couple months of time on your hands.

That AMD ever got into the situation they did with K7/K8 was by every means a once in a lifetime kind of stroke of genius on their part (acquiring the DEC team along with Dirk) and a once in a lifetime stroke of luck that Intel replaced "only the paranoid survive" Andy Grove with "netburst FTW" Craig Barrett.

In my mind AMD's recent performance is to be expected and for all we know they would have been much worse off had Hector not been there doing brilliant things everyday to keep the company from going under in a matter of months instead of years.

How they will ever pull another rabbit out of the hat is beyond me. I just don't see it unless this whole CPUGPU thing does become the next rage and Intel gets caught as the odd man out for a few years if Larrabee hits the streets as Larranottobee.
 
I think he needs to go, also. I'm pretty sure that they can't afford to fire him, though. Do you have any idea how huge of a payday these morons receive, when they get fired?
 
Originally posted by: Martimus
I thought that Dirk Meyer was taking his place at the end of this month when Hectors contract runs out. So asking for his ouster seems a little redundant.

edit: Seems I heard wrong about Hector leaving in May. He said that he will stay through 2008.
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from your link:
news analysis Imagine you're a director for a company that just endured a year that started off with a distribution snafu and then unraveled in a series of engineering glitches, forcing the delay of your most important product in years. Worst of all, your company's stock price dropped 63 percent.

It might be time to start thinking about going in a different direction, right? Not at Advanced Micro Devices. CEO Hector Ruiz said last month that he plans to stay on the job through 2008, and it doesn't appear that AMD's board of directors is inclined to send him packing.
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Ouch! But hey even Craig Barret was nice enough to not leave until Prescott was fully burned into the history books as being his legacy rather than leaving that little nugget for Otellini to deal with. (prescott released Feb 2004, Barret exited CEO stage May 2005)

Craig left C2D in the wings for Otellini to score.

So maybe this is Hector's way of being honorable and taking the sword thru the belly on the K10 debacle thru to the end'ish...meaning he's agreed to let Shanghai fall onto his legacy plate (which without neither HK/MG nor ULK is likely to be the "hot" version of 45nm chips) and let Dirk kick off a new phase of AMD with Bulldozer (which should enter at the final stages of 45nm CIT so should have ULK and HK/MG).

(Sure its completely unlikely, but no harm in being a dreamer, is there?)
 
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: Martimus
I thought that Dirk Meyer was taking his place at the end of this month when Hectors contract runs out. So asking for his ouster seems a little redundant.

edit: Seems I heard wrong about Hector leaving in May. He said that he will stay through 2008.
Click to expand...

from your link:
news analysis Imagine you're a director for a company that just endured a year that started off with a distribution snafu and then unraveled in a series of engineering glitches, forcing the delay of your most important product in years. Worst of all, your company's stock price dropped 63 percent.

It might be time to start thinking about going in a different direction, right? Not at Advanced Micro Devices. CEO Hector Ruiz said last month that he plans to stay on the job through 2008, and it doesn't appear that AMD's board of directors is inclined to send him packing.
Click to expand...

Ouch! But hey even Craig Barret was nice enough to not leave until Prescott was fully burned into the history books as being his legacy rather than leaving that little nugget for Otellini to deal with. (prescott released Feb 2004, Barret exited CEO stage May 2005)

Craig left C2D in the wings for Otellini to score.

So maybe this is Hector's way of being honorable and taking the sword thru the belly on the K10 debacle thru to the end'ish...meaning he's agreed to let Shanghai fall onto his legacy plate (which without neither HK/MG nor ULK is likely to be the "hot" version of 45nm chips) and let Dirk kick off a new phase of AMD with Bulldozer (which should enter at the final stages of 45nm CIT so should have ULK and HK/MG).

(Sure its completely unlikely, but no harm in being a dreamer, is there?)
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Actually, after reading that article, that makes perfect sense. Of course, who knows what either persons motivations really are?
 
I think that AMD squandered their golden position. The where in the lead for 2 years (as far as performance goes) and just kind of slowed down R&D while intel seemed to be doing nothing. When Intel released conroe it was as if AMD said "Crap, where did that come from?" Yes, the performance jump for Intel was big, but AMD should have been trying to widen the gap those years, not coast on their success. They slept and now they are paying for it.

K10 felt to me like a extremely rushed project that was trying to make up the gap. It failed, you can't advance that quickly without some serious dough behind you (Like intel did)
 
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Well its not like we should routinely expect a company with 25% of the resources be going around kicking the ass of the 80% market share gorilla.

AMD's situation is to be expected, I don't know why so many folks think designing chips is something you do with $5 and a couple months of time on your hands.

That AMD ever got into the situation they did with K7/K8 was by every means a once in a lifetime kind of stroke of genius on their part (acquiring the DEC team along with Dirk) and a once in a lifetime stroke of luck that Intel replaced "only the paranoid survive" Andy Grove with "netburst FTW" Craig Barrett.

In my mind AMD's recent performance is to be expected and for all we know they would have been much worse off had Hector not been there doing brilliant things everyday to keep the company from going under in a matter of months instead of years.

How they will ever pull another rabbit out of the hat is beyond me. I just don't see it unless this whole CPUGPU thing does become the next rage and Intel gets caught as the odd man out for a few years if Larrabee hits the streets as Larranottobee.
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QFT

A most excellent summation...
 
So the gist of all this seems to be that we can expect AMD to stumble along making a few people rich while the company sinks into oblivion?
 
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Well its not like we should routinely expect a company with 25% of the resources be going around kicking the ass of the 80% market share gorilla.

AMD's situation is to be expected, I don't know why so many folks think designing chips is something you do with $5 and a couple months of time on your hands.

That AMD ever got into the situation they did with K7/K8 was by every means a once in a lifetime kind of stroke of genius on their part (acquiring the DEC team along with Dirk) and a once in a lifetime stroke of luck that Intel replaced "only the paranoid survive" Andy Grove with "netburst FTW" Craig Barrett.

In my mind AMD's recent performance is to be expected and for all we know they would have been much worse off had Hector not been there doing brilliant things everyday to keep the company from going under in a matter of months instead of years.

How they will ever pull another rabbit out of the hat is beyond me. I just don't see it unless this whole CPUGPU thing does become the next rage and Intel gets caught as the odd man out for a few years if Larrabee hits the streets as Larranottobee.
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I have no idea if AMD would have been better off under someone else and we have no way of knowing. However when stock is way down the CEO is there to take the blame like a man, rather thanto have a pay raise.
 
Originally posted by: Greenman
So the gist of all this seems to be that we can expect AMD to stumble along making a few people rich while the company sinks into oblivion?
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Not trying to be a smartass or anything but isn't that the life-cycle of every company mankind has invented in the past 10,000 years? Intel just isn't winding down yet, their time will come, it does for every company.
 
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