Time to ban knives again

[uhohs]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-frenzied-attack-hoodie-gang-outside-pub.html

A gang of 20 hooded youths stormed a pub after the Champions League final before dragging away a 25-year old man and stabbing him to death in scenes 'like a horror film', friends said today.

'True gent' Luke Fitzpatrick was killed and his father Bernard, who threw himself on top of his son in a desperate attempt to shield him, remains in a critical condition in hospital after being stabbed four times.

The pair were attacked when a gang armed with bats and knives stormed the north London pub after father and son had watched Chelsea win the cup together at on Saturday.

 

[MustISO]

I say keep the knives to kill the people who did this.

 

[chucky2]

I tell ya. Those knife manufacturers should be sued, and all knife sales regulated. Wait. Bats and bat manufacturers also, just to be safe.

Also, all rocks should be securely fastened so as to not be used as a weapon.

Godd@mn UK and their lax knife and bat laws!!!

 

[Howard]

Wrong. It's time to ban hoods. And youths. And pubs. And Champions League finals. And 25-year-olds.

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[chucky2]

Can we ban just male 25 year olds? The female variety can be pretty hot...

 

[CycloWizard]

Hard to say whether the knives did it or the hoodies really. Combining the two is obviously a recipe for disaster.

 

[Kadarin]

Wait, this is an uhohs thread that doesn't involve prepubescent Japanese girls lip synching and dancing and acting all disgustingly cutesy?

 

[BladeVenom]

If only they had another 2 million more cameras spying on their citizens it may have stopped the violence.

 

[dennilfloss]

Might as well ban knives and install CCCs in Atlantic City too. :\

http://www.thestar.com/news/article...e-attack-leaves-2-scarborough-women-dead?bn=1

 

[Jaepheth]

Just mandate everyone wear full plate armor when they're in public. this will also revitalize the struggling British blacksmithing sector.

Or if full plate is too complicated and expensive then mass produce simple stamped metal armor that can fit over a motorized carriage...

like this:

 

[xj0hnx]

Wait, this is an uhohs thread that doesn't involve prepubescent Japanese girls lip synching and dancing and acting all disgustingly cutesy?

Clicks "uhohs" "Find more post by uhohs"

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Tell me it isn't so.....HAL9000 has not commented in this thread. I thought all the superior gun control and Bobbies with billy clubs prevented such things from happening in the UK???


Let me guess the Bobbies were eating crumpets and drinking tea while discussing the outcome of the UEFA League Championship match.

 

[Incorruptible]

Just another case where the Urban Market is at it again, the police have to take a stand against these savages


Find another word that is less racially insensitive or baiting. The one you used is not acceptable in this forum.

You were previously vacationed for making racially insensitive comments in this forum, apparently the duration of that vacation was insufficient as a means of convincing you to change your approach.

As such your new vacation will be significantly larger, hopefully long enough that you get the message because if we have a third instance of this from you then you will find yourself on the wrong end of a "3 strikes and you are out" type situation.

Administrator Idontcare

 

[Rainsford]

The funny part about this thread is that even in the US, knives and other non-gun weapons are actually pretty regulated...in some places far more so than guns. Switchblades and brass knuckles are two examples of weapons that are in general MUCH harder to legally carry in the US than many different types of guns, despite the latter being arguably far more dangerous. I've always found that pretty odd.

 

[NetWareHead]

Tell me it isn't so.....HAL9000 has not commented in this thread. I thought all the superior gun control and Bobbies with billy clubs prevented such things from happening in the UK???


Let me guess the Bobbies were eating crumpets and drinking tea while discussing the outcome of the UEFA League Championship match.

He already has commented in a similar previous thread:

You can't threaten people with a knife.

/Discussion.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

'There were about 20 young black guys all with their hoods up armed with sticks and bats and knives. They just ran in the pub and started trying to attack people.

how are race relations in the UK?

 

[uhohs]

Wait, this is an uhohs thread that doesn't involve prepubescent Japanese girls lip synching and dancing and acting all disgustingly cutesy?

<3

 

[Incorruptible]

how are race relations in the UK?

There very bad

 

[cybrsage]

If the guy was allowed to own a gun and carry it on him, he would be alive and the thugs who murdered him would be dead instead.

 

[actuarial]

If the guy was allowed to own a gun and carry it on him, he would be alive and the thugs who murdered him would be dead instead.

You have no way of knowing that. Why wouldn't any of the 25 thugs have guns?

 

[cybrsage]

Because they would already have them if they wanted them. Criminals are not called criminals because they follow the law. Banning guns only prevents law abiding citizens from getting guns.

 

[actuarial]

Because they would already have them if they wanted them. Criminals are not called criminals because they follow the law. Banning guns only prevents law abiding citizens from getting guns.

Living in Canada, I disagree with you in terms of the exact same percentage of criminals carrying guns in Canada and the US. And for all we know they did in fact have guns but didn't need to use them. But even with that said, even if he's allowed to carry a gun doesn't mean he would be.

I'm not trying to say that it's impossible for there to be a different result, but to make it as some sort of absolute 'legalize guns and this will never happen again' is just silly.

 

[Lemon law]

Pardon me if I say swords and knives as edged weapons is such a 16'th century obsolete idea. Get with the times folk, its why my Lemon Law idea, patent pending, is finally up to date, as I have invented the first personal hand carried nuclear weapon. Ye need have no fear even if you face an army of knife toting thugs, just whip out your Lemon Law invented personal nuke and vaporize the lot of them.

 

[Abraxas]

Because they would already have them if they wanted them. Criminals are not called criminals because they follow the law. Banning guns only prevents law abiding citizens from getting guns.

That to me has always been one of the more "special" arguments to me against gun control. What makes you, or anyone else for that matter, think that illegal commodities are easily available in the places in which they are illegal? That someone is a criminal does not magically imbue them with the knowledge and resources to acquire any and every illegal good known to man.

I'm of mixed mind about gun control laws, but this is an absolutely terrible argument against them.

 

[cybrsage]

Living in Canada, I disagree with you in terms of the exact same percentage of criminals carrying guns in Canada and the US. And for all we know they did in fact have guns but didn't need to use them. But even with that said, even if he's allowed to carry a gun doesn't mean he would be.

I'm not trying to say that it's impossible for there to be a different result, but to make it as some sort of absolute 'legalize guns and this will never happen again' is just silly.

The odds of him legally carrying a gun and being able to defend himself is much higher when it is legally allowable to carry a gun.

Of course criminals will still commit crimes if guns are legal. However, there would be more dead criminals and less dead victems if guns were legal.