Time for new ram.

fastamdman

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I currently have 8gigs of gskills sniper series. I believe default it's rated at 1600mhz ddr3, but I run it anywhere from 1600-2400mhz rock stable. Regardless I need to move up to 16gigs and I am going to give these sticks to the wife so she can also have 16gigs in her rig for photoshop.

I mainly game, but I also do A LOT of multi tasking. I will have several games open at once, I do video editing and rendering at times, video encoding, virtual machine work and I would like to have virtual memory setup as well so things are even faster in conjunction with my 850 pro 512gb.

Anyway, everything I have read has basically said to go with the lowest cas latency and highest mhz that my board supports. I have a maximus vii hero so I can support extremely fast ram. Besides the trident X's from gskill at a 100 dollars, I found these.

https://www.amazon.com/Patriot-2400...00CRF9WR8/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

I have never used patriot before, but they are 2400mhz and a cas latency of 10.

Thoughts? Has anyone had any issues with patriot memory? I have personally used gskill for the last 5 years and before that it was strictly corsair with a touch of crucial here and there.
 

fastamdman

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Any help would be great. I don't know whether or not to just grab the corsair 2400 cl11 sticks, or to try a brand I have never tried. I know the trident x 2400 cl10's are some of the fastest ddr3 sticks that I am aware of, but they are an extra 40 bucks compared to the corsair sticks. I don't think it's worth it and I think I would only notice it in synthetic benchmarks.

I really wanna buy this ram tonight, PS I am only using amazon, not newegg currently as I have a credit there. Any links would be appreciated.

Look for the best price to performance ram around 100 dollars, must be 2x8gb ram. Gonna toss the 2x4gb gskill snipers to the wife.
 

LTC8K6

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I don't think you will ever notice a difference in your tasks as long as you pick any decent mfgs ram.

In fact, I doubt you will notice any difference between the 1600 and 2400 ram.

The amount of ram is far more important than the ram speed.

The exception being if you are using an APU / IGP.
 

BonzaiDuck

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I'd stick with G.SKILLs [like the Tridents], even if they don't sport the very lowest latency specs. G.SKILL latencies have always been good among memories in the speed spec of certain models. Further, I've used three different models of their DDR3 dual-channel kits, and they all configure with command rate CR = 1 with my motherboard, even though the XMP spec shows CR = 2.

But I wouldn't know about the Patriots. I use several Patriot devices and they are all top-notch. I'd look at some reviews to see what people are able to do with them.
 

wpcoe

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The exception being if you are using an APU / IGP.

That comment caught my attention. I'm assembling a parts list for a Skylake i3-6320 system with 16GB RAM and hope to be able to use just the iGPU to feed a 4K monitor. I don't do gaming. Mostly office-type apps, browsing, e-mail, and Photoshop image editing. In such a scenario, what speed/latency RAM should I be looking for?
 

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That comment caught my attention. I'm assembling a parts list for a Skylake i3-6320 system with 16GB RAM and hope to be able to use just the iGPU to feed a 4K monitor. I don't do gaming. Mostly office-type apps, browsing, e-mail, and Photoshop image editing. In such a scenario, what speed/latency RAM should I be looking for?

Ram speed makes a huge difference for the i3 Skylake's. Go with a cheap Z170 chipset motherboard and at least DDR4 2400-3000 range for best results.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Ram speed makes a huge difference for the i3 Skylake's. Go with a cheap Z170 chipset motherboard and at least DDR4 2400-3000 range for best results.

Probably more like 2666 to 3000. Or 2800 to 3000.

But for his applications, I'm not sure it matters. Prices seem good these days for DDR4 kits.
 

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G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C11D-16GAB $61.99 newegg

considering the price difference these days its hard to go past 2400c11 for an extra ~3% cpu performance in programs that can make use of it
who knows maybe you will be able to oc it to c10 anyway

with the i3 it may be cheaper to get a i5 with a b150 mb than the i3 with z170 and decent ddr4
but then if the work isnt making use of the extra cores the i3 with faster ram could be a bit more zippy than the i5
http://www.newegg.com/G-SKILL/BrandStore/ID-8476
 

fastamdman

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I thought I had a signature of my mods. But anyway, my build is a i7 4790k, asus maximus vii hero, gtx 1080.

Price to performance from what I can tell the patriots would be the best deal. These.
https://www.amazon.com/Patriot-2400...00CRF9WR8/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

And they are rated at 4.9 out of 5 stars. Amazon also has a great return policy if they fail off the bat so thats nice.

And judging by this link it looks like they have a lifetime warranty as well.
https://patriotmemory.com/warranty/

I have always been a huge fan of gskill myself, but they are also an extra 30 dollars. I don' think the extra 30 dollars is worth it for just the name, but I could be wrong.

Also the patriots are 10-12-12-30 where the gskills are 10-12-12-31 if that matters much.

Now that I listed my specs and everything whats your thoughts? Patriots, gskill or something different?
 

Dasa2

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personally i would give the patriot a go
chances are they will work fine
but if you would rather go gskill your only missing out on the equivalent performance of ~100mhz higher cpu oc

the other speed you shouldnt overlook when looking for ram kits is 2133c9 which should perform closer to 2400c10 than 2400c11
 

fastamdman

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Thanks. From my research 2400c10 beats out 2133c9 just a tad and since the prices are close to the same I think I will grab the patriots tonight. Then I can setup a nice little virtually memory setup for my rig :) It'll go well with the 512gb 850 pro.
 

wpcoe

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Ram speed makes a huge difference for the i3 Skylake's. Go with a cheap Z170 chipset motherboard and at least DDR4 2400-3000 range for best results.

Probably more like 2666 to 3000. Or 2800 to 3000.

But for his applications, I'm not sure it matters. Prices seem good these days for DDR4 kits.

I was tentatively planning on using 16 GB (2 x 8GB) Kingston HyperX 2666Mhz as a middle of the road choice, which is roughly US$91 here.

ADATA XPG Z1 2800Mhz is ~US$103 and G.Skill Ripjaws V 3000Mhz is ~US$107.

Think I'll stay with the Kingston 2666. As suggested above, I might even be able to overclock the RAM on the Z170 motherboard, but I tend to keep things at stock these days.
 

BonzaiDuck

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I was tentatively planning on using 16 GB (2 x 8GB) Kingston HyperX 2666Mhz as a middle of the road choice, which is roughly US$91 here.

ADATA XPG Z1 2800Mhz is ~US$103 and G.Skill Ripjaws V 3000Mhz is ~US$107.

Think I'll stay with the Kingston 2666. As suggested above, I might even be able to overclock the RAM on the Z170 motherboard, but I tend to keep things at stock these days.

Well . . . Kingston has been in the memory business for quite some time. If the latencies are decent; if the failure-rate and the type of complaints are acceptable in nature -- go for it.

Generally, after Intel merged the memory controller and the CPU, it makes more sense to buy RAM at the spec you want to run, and run it at stock settings with an exception here or there. That's what I do now.

Look at it another way. You can probably have any speed you want at timings limited by the overall technology. If you chose to overclock a RAM kit (or two), you'd have to test it. Just to test RAM at stock settings before the reseller RMA deadline, a 16GB kit may take me a day and a half. If you're overclocking it, you're likely to have success after trial and error failure experiences, and each time the RAM fails the test, you'll need to adjust settings and start all [bleep]ing over.

That could be the argument for any overclocking we do and discuss in these forums. But it's a lot easier and less time-consuming to test an OC'd CPU than a large 16GB RAM kit. And suppose you configure 32GB? Or more?

I say "test 'em once, set 'em and fahget 'em." If you can buy DDR4-2666, why buy DDR4-2400 to run at 2666 with all the trouble?