Time for choosing a new TV - Samsung/Vizio 65"/75"

[DesiPower]

*Update* - Ended up getting Vizio M75 #17

Bought TV from Costco 2 years ago, it broke, they are ready to replace with similar TV or give me $1280 store credit. Its a 65" Samsung 240Hz. I am tempted to upgrade to a 75" TV but don't want to spend a lot of money. 95 % of the time I am watching OTA, Sling, Netflix or Amazon. Rest 5% is Blu-Ray. Do watch a lot of Football/Basketball through chose channels. Below are the options I am exploring, can anyone provide some insight on the main advantages/disadvantages of these models, does 120 vs 240 Hz make a lot of difference?

Option 1 - Stick with replacement - Samsung 65" Class MU8000 (240Hz) - No Extra cost to me ($1280)

Option 2 - 75" Samsung Class MU6300 (120Hz) - Pay $370 Extra ($1650)

Option 3 - 75" Vizio E75-E3 HDR XLED (120Hz) - Pay $220 Extra ($1500)

Option 4 - 75" Vizio M75-E1 Ultra HD HDR XLED Plus (120Hz) - Pay $500 Extra ($1780)

 

[tynopik]

get the cheapest tv they have then spend the rest of the store credit on skittles

 

[DietDrThunder]

Maybe it is just my experience, but I have returned 3 Vizio TVs over the past 4 years to Costco. I still have a 50" Samsung DLP 1080P TV in my living room that is 12 years old and still going strong. The Vizio's I replaced were 40" models for the master bedroom. I replaced the last Vizio with a 40" Samsung 4K TV. We'll see if this one lasts.

 

[BoomerD]

The 65" Samsung is the better screen than the 75" Sammy...I've never cared for Visio. They just don't look as nice in the stores...which is where they SHOULD look their best.

 

[BD231]

65" is a little sharper, but there's nothing like viewing a 75" vagina on your living room wall m8.

I voted 2

 

[DesiPower]

Thanks for the input guys, specially the vaginal input from BD231. Yeah, I am planning to go and take a look in the store myself... Really want a 75 but don't want to downgrade on quality... tough choice... However, Costco does have a nice return policy, so if the 75, Samsung or Vizio looks crappy, I can always go back to the nicer 65

 

[DesiPower]

Maybe it is just my experience, but I have returned 3 Vizio TVs over the past 4 years to Costco. I still have a 50" Samsung DLP 1080P TV in my living room that is 12 years old and still going strong. The Vizio's I replaced were 40" models for the master bedroom. I replaced the last Vizio with a 40" Samsung 4K TV. We'll see if this one lasts.

I have heard from other people too, products sold at Costco seem to be inferior quality... TV, Laptops, Phones, people have to take it back a lot... Buyers of same models have better luck from Best Buy etc....

 

[BoomerD]

I have heard from other people too, products sold at Costco seem to be inferior quality... TV, Laptops, Phones, people have to take it back a lot... Buyers of same models have better luck from Best Buy etc....

Most manufacturers offer a "warehouse store" model that has fewer features, but the underlying tech is USUALLY the same as normal retail models. (not always the case, but USUALLY)

 

[ImpulsE69]

Get the Sony 940e 75" great tv that closely rivals OLED and DV update is out. (okay so this might be outside your price range).

A serious word of advice though. If you can afford/room for 75" get 75". Do NOT get 65". Bigger is better in TV world. The smaller tv may seem sharper, but you most likely aren't going to be viewing it at 2 feet away. That minor detail will dissolve at normal viewing distances, but the size will always be there. (and no reason to go into projector size debates, projectors are still inferior to a tv).

Also, disregard the 120/240 parameters in your selections. The first thing you will want to do is disable ALL of that stuff. A caveat though is if you are a gamer, you will want to see what the input lag and/or refresh ghosting looks like on any TV you plan on getting.

 

[DesiPower]

Get the Sony 940e 75" great tv that closely rivals OLED and DV update is out. (okay so this might be outside your price range).

A serious word of advice though. If you can afford/room for 75" get 75". Do NOT get 65". Bigger is better in TV world. The smaller tv may seem sharper, but you most likely aren't going to be viewing it at 2 feet away. That minor detail will dissolve at normal viewing distances, but the size will always be there. (and no reason to go into projector size debates, projectors are still inferior to a tv).

Also, disregard the 120/240 parameters in your selections. The first thing you will want to do is disable ALL of that stuff. A caveat though is if you are a gamer, you will want to see what the input lag and/or refresh ghosting looks like on any TV you plan on getting.

No gaming planned on the TV. I am heavily leaning towards 75" Samsung 6300... thanks

 

[DesiPower]

okay, what the hell is HDR? the Samsung 6300 does not have it, but Vizio M series does... how important it is? any idea anyone?

 

[ImpulsE69]

HDR(High Dynamic Range) and DV (Dolby Vision) are the new 'rage' in picture contrast - think of them as the VHS and BETA of ontrast/bright levels - some things use one some use the other, some both. I would say given your use cases you mentioned, it probably is not THAT important for you. To use it with Blu-Ray requires special Blu-Ray players that support (one or both) that are very expensive. Blu-Ray discs that are encoded with it, as well as AV receiver that supports it if you use one as well as HDMI cables that have the bandwidth to support it. Netflix has some as well as Youtube have some content....but the jist is, it requires basically a rebuild of your home theater to really take advantage of it and it is pretty overpriced for the lack of content out there that supports it.

Videophiles swear by it, but for the average user it isn't that important at this time, but something that supports one or the other (or both in best case) is sort of future proofing. When done right and configured correctly, the picture can almost have a 3D quality to it, but most of these 4k TVs look pretty good without it.

 

[DesiPower]

And enters into the ring LG 75UJ6470/75UJ657A. For $1400 it seems to be a pretty sweet deal and its has HDR too... Never considered LG before, have been reading reviews and they seem to be okay...

 

[spacejamz]

And enters into the ring LG 75UJ6470/75UJ657A. For $1400 it seems to be a pretty sweet deal and its has HDR too... Never considered LG before, have been reading reviews and they seem to be okay...

there are various levels of HDR quality out there...being able to display an HDR signal doesnt mean you will get the best HDR quality (there are brightness standards that a TV has to be able to display to have a proper HDR picture. Many of the lower priced HDR sets cannot do this). To add to the confusion, I think those LG sets have RGBW pixels versus the standard RGB pixels...you can google the difference if you really want to know...to the average consumer, the pictures are fine...to the videophiles out there, there is a drastic difference....

 

[spacejamz]

there is alot of good info on this site...you can view the objective ratings for many of the TV models out there to see which tv's meet your viewing needs....

https://www.rtings.com/tv

 

[SKORPI0]

A 75" vajayjay..... who owns this?

 

[DesiPower]

Ended up getting the Vizio M75. So far the experience has been disappointing. Two main issues...

1. Watching basketball game today, on Sling and on HDHomeRun/Plex, in both cases picture is jerky, not smooth at all.
2. Viewing angle is horrible, from right in front of the TV the picture is nice and bright but from about 40 degrees its horrible. Its brownish and washed out, generally with the whole family sitting together, the corner most seat of the sectional is used quiet often and so this is totally unacceptable.
3. Minor issue - Lack of DTV tuner will definitely take some getting used to....

During initial setup, during firmware update, its got stuck 3 times, had to restart it to get back on track... In short pretty sucky experience, it is going back. Thinking about going back to Samsung 8000 series, don't want to experiment 6000, don't have time or patience... See if I can come up with extra 1000 bucks for the 75" , otherwise will stick with 65". Cheaper quality/feature will not do.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

Use the Costco cash to buy bulk beef -

Buy yourself a Sony TV - Highest quality and they don't fail.

 

[local]

For what it is worth we have been very happy with the Vizio M70 we got two years ago. With the minor exception that once we got used to it we thought it was too small.

 

[spacejamz]

Ended up getting the Vizio M75. So far the experience has been disappointing. Two main issues...

1. Watching basketball game today, on Sling and on HDHomeRun/Plex, in both cases picture is jerky, not smooth at all.
2. Viewing angle is horrible, from right in front of the TV the picture is nice and bright but from about 40 degrees its horrible. Its brownish and washed out, generally with the whole family sitting together, the corner most seat of the sectional is used quiet often and so this is totally unacceptable.
3. Minor issue - Lack of DTV tuner will definitely take some getting used to....

During initial setup, during firmware update, its got stuck 3 times, had to restart it to get back on track... In short pretty sucky experience, it is going back. Thinking about going back to Samsung 8000 series, don't want to experiment 6000, don't have time or patience... See if I can come up with extra 1000 bucks for the 75" , otherwise will stick with 65". Cheaper quality/feature will not do.

Was watching Sling and HD Home Run on your previous TV smooth? I haven't used any streaming services before but I thought some were not as smooth as others....

I have a 2016 M80 and there is definitely no jerkiness on the picture....

 

[DesiPower]

Was watching Sling and HD Home Run on your previous TV smooth? I haven't used any streaming services before but I thought some were not as smooth as others....

I have a 2016 M80 and there is definitely no jerkiness on the picture....

Sling was definitely smooth"er". HDHR, not sure, never used it on TV as the previous one had DVT Tuner built in. Have to commandeer one of those soon as we watch OTA a lot and wifey is not happy with the workaround...

@local and @spacejamz, how do you guys OTA?

 

[local]

Sling was definitely smooth"er". HDHR, not sure, never used it on TV as the previous one had DVT Tuner built in. Have to commandeer one of those soon as we watch OTA a lot and wifey is not happy with the workaround...

@local and @spacejamz, how do you guys OTA?

We don't, not yet. Still using Dish at the moment with a healthy dose of Amazon Prime. I am thinking about going streaming only this summer but I still don't like our options and until I find a convenient way to get out of the region lock for watching local baseball games my wife may not let me anyway.

 

[Zeze]

65 is the minimum nowadays.

Go with 75. That trumps refresh rates by far.

 

[DesiPower]

We don't, not yet. Still using Dish at the moment with a healthy dose of Amazon Prime. I am thinking about going streaming only this summer but I still don't like our options and until I find a convenient way to get out of the region lock for watching local baseball games my wife may not let me anyway.

Local games might be available with Sling package, have you checked?

 

[local]

Local games might be available with Sling package, have you checked?

I don't think I have checked that one and I plan on digging back into it in a couple months. The problem I keep running into is that the games are only on one channel, FSSW, and that channel is not available on streaming services that I have seen. They do offer MLB Network but that will not let me watch local games due to the FSSW blackout in my area. One way around that is to run through a proxy that is outside of my area but that goes beyond the convenient part I was mentioning earlier.