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Time for a Purchase (HD 7970)

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tential

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Notes: Top Half Description/Bottom Half Thermals/Noise/Power Consumption
Don't base anything off Power Consumption
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Top Half:
I've been waiting for the 700 series, but now that it's out it's out of my price range. I'm not spending 500+ for GTX 770 or GTX 780 when the HD 7970 does ALMOST the exact same thing for hundreds less.

With that said, I saw this on sale at newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150586

Skeptical, I did a google search and saw anandtech's review:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5314/...-double-dissipation-the-first-semicustom-7970

Of course I need a reference and checked the GTX 680:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6096/evga-geforce-gtx-680-classified-review

Now with driver updates, etc. I have no clue how this card actually is now. I'm assuming it's still very good. What do I need to consider before making this purchase?



Bottom Half:
Some things I assume didn't change from those reviews, and a comparison between the cards so you don't have to look through them:

XFX Black Edition HD 7970
Idle Power Consumption: 113
Load Power Consumption Metro 2033: 398
Load Power Consumption OCCT: 365
Idle GPU temperature: 30 C
Load Temperature Metro 2033: 74
Load GPU Temperature: OCCT 79
Idle Noise Levels: 43.5
Load Noise Levels Metro 2033: 48.1
Load Noise Levels OCCT: 52

HD 7970
Idle Power Consumption: 113
Load Power Consumption Metro 2033: 391
Load Power Consumption OCCT: 357
Idle GPU temperature: 34 C
Load Temperature Metro 2033: 74
Load GPU Temperature: OCCT 79
Idle Noise Levels: 40.2
Load Noise Levels Metro 2033: 55.2
Load Noise Levels OCCT: 57.3

GTX 680 Evga Classified
Idle Power Consumption: 112
Load Power Consumption Metro 2033: 372
Load Power Consumption OCCT: 345
Idle GPU temperature: 32 C
Load Temperature Metro 2033: 72
Load GPU Temperature: OCCT 73
Idle Noise Levels: 41
Load Noise Levels Metro 2033: 50.5

GTX 680
Idle Power Consumption: 112
Load Power Consumption Metro 2033: 362
Load Power Consumption OCCT: 333
Idle GPU temperature: 32 C
Load Temperature Metro 2033: 78
Load GPU Temperature: OCCT 79
Idle Noise Levels: 40.5
Load Noise Levels Metro 2033: 51.9
Load Noise Levels OCCT: 52.5
 
philipma1957 said:
that card is almost certain to be voltage locked.

which means you do not want it. If you want a hd7970 card I will link a better one in a minute.



http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...&condition=new


this one is almost certain to not be voltage locked. it is 408 and a 20 dollar rebate makes it 388. plus amazon has a very good return policy. I own lots of cards the sapphire is better.
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Communism said:
HIS IceQ X² H797QM3G2M Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

399 USD + 4.99 USD Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161412

This is the best 7970 card right now at MSRP or less.

It also has the absolute best cooling solution on any 7970 card at the moment.
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I hadn't really planned on OCIng. I'm guessing both of these are good OCers? Would the XFX be good stock though for the price?
 
tential said:
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I'm just gonna quote myself:

blastingcap said:
btw I'd avoid the XFX DD 7970 if I were you. The XFX DD 7950 seems fine though. Here are some 7950 and 7970 comparisons: http://www.hardware.fr/articles/853-1/comparatif-radeon-hd-7970-7950-asus-his-msi-powercolor-sapphire-xfx.html See the thermal photos in particular, which is easiest to do on this page: http://www.hardware.fr/articles/853-16/thermographie-infrarouge-cartes-graphiques.html (rather than having to visit each page individually).

ASUS has some issues with GPU contacts or something on the DirectCU II cooler right now so avoid them until they fix it. Besides, they don't cool the VRMs as well as the competition anyway.

That leaves MSI's Twin Frozr III and Sapphire's OC edition coolers as the best two for 7950 cooling--Hardware.fr proclaims the Sapphire OC as the winner among its tested 7950s. I don't think the difference is much, though, especially when both are heavily overclocked, but I went with the cheaper Sapphire OC myself. 🙂 Here are the links to the overclocked temperatures:

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/853-11/sapphire-radeon-hd-7950-overclock-test.html

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/853-7/msi-radeon-hd-7950-twin-frozr-iii-test.html
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tential said:
I hadn't really planned on OCIng. I'm guessing both of these are good OCers? Would the XFX be good stock though for the price?
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NO NO NO NO voltage locked means it always runs at 1.1 volts


translation hot hot hot

most people do not realize you can underclock a card just a little bit on the volts to cut heat down but still get preformance.

the cards picked by us that are unlocked can be undervolted from 1.1 volts to .99 volts and still run at the core 925Mh/z if you use MSI afterburner this means less watts less heat lower fans.

I can run my sapphire at .975 volts and 940 mhz core and 1.55 for ram and 1300 for memory this is underclocked

it uses 50 to 65 watts less then the xfx

the xfx stuck at 1.1 volts the core you can boost to 1050 ram stuck at 1.6 volts you can boost the freq to 1400.

but the fans will blast and it runs hot. no matter if you lower the core to 900 the volts are stuck at 1.1 no matter if you lower the ram freq to 1000 the volts are stuck at 1.6
 
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philipma1957 said:
NO NO NO NO voltage locked means it always runs at 1.1 volts


translation hot hot hot

most people do not realize you can underclock a card just a little bit on the volts to cut heat down but still get preformance.
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For normal usage like gaming, if you do not plan to overclock and always run on the stock or factory overclocked settings, you don't need to worry about voltage or anything in most cases. Even the relatively crappy XFX DD cooler does okay if you don't overclock. Translation: locked 1.1volts is NOT A PROBLEM and NOT TOO HOT as long as you don't overvolt/overclock.

Your card automatically downvolts when idle or playing back movies or watching Youtube so it only hits 1.1v when confronted with the heaviest workloads.

Now, if you DO plan to significantly overclock or overvolt, you need stronger cooling than the XFX DD cooler.

Undervolting brings temperatures down BELOW what is ALREADY SAFE, and also brings down power consumption, but most normal people don't want to mess with it, especially because if your fans ever get clogged with dust and stuff like that, you lose cooling efficiency and thus stability and have to clean your fans and intakes and re-tune your undervoltage to give it stability again. Most normal people don't want to have to keep doing that, so having a cushion of voltage above what is absolutely necessary is good to guard against that. Also, going up or down on core clock at a locked 1.1v will affect power consumption, just not as much as if you changed voltage (raising voltage 10% means 20% increase in wattage on the core, and a little less than that for the card overall because there are RAM chips and fans and other chips besides the core that use energy, too). Going from 1GHz to 1.1GHz core means 10% more power use by the core, for instance, so that's what, maybe 15 watts. Going the other direction to 900MHz saves 15 watts.
 
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philipma1957 said:
NO NO NO NO voltage locked means it always runs at 1.1 volts


translation hot hot hot

most people do not realize you can underclock a card just a little bit on the volts to cut heat down but still get preformance.
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My XFX 7970 DD Black Edition is stock at 1.175 volts, and boy does it run hot.

It gets over 95C when its 80F Ambient when its the only card in an Antec 1100 case. (Card thermal Throttles at 95 degrees)
 
blastingcap said:
Your Quote
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That's really quite irritating. From the Anandtech review I got completely different idea of the card but from here, it seems it's much different. Well, that is why you always do your homework and ask around too haha.

philipma1957 said:
NO NO NO NO voltage locked means it always runs at 1.1 volts


translation hot hot hot

most people do not realize you can underclock a card just a little bit on the volts to cut heat down but still get preformance.
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Ok that makes sense. It'd be nice to be able to underclock the card when I'm using it while watching a movie so that it's not loud. That'd work right? Any idea just how quiet the card can get in idle mode when undervolted?
It'd be nice to have a profile for the card to deliver silence, and another profile for gaming.

Communism said:
My XFX 7970 DD Black Edition is stock at 1.175 volts, and boy does it run hot.

It gets over 95C when its 80F Ambient when its the only card in an Antec 1100 case. (Card thermal Throttles at 95 degrees)
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I don't see this card in your signature do you still have it? Overall, how do you feel about the card since you have or still have owned it. Would you personally right now pay the extra $40 dollars and just get a better card.
 
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tential said:
That's really quite irritating. From the Anandtech review I got completely different idea of the card but from here, it seems it's much different. Well, that is why you always do your homework and ask around too haha.


Ok that makes sense. It'd be nice to be able to underclock the card when I'm using it while watching a movie so that it's not loud. That'd work right? Any idea just how quiet the card can get in idle mode when undervolted?
It'd be nice to have a profile for the card to deliver silence, and another profile for gaming.


I don't see this card in your signature do you still have it? Overall, how do you feel about the card since you have or still have owned it. Would you personally right now pay the extra $40 dollars and just get a better card.
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Cards automatically underclock and undervolt when not in use, and this automatic underclocking/undervolting technology has been around for like, decades. Idle wattage is like 10 watts (300 MHz and something like .80 volts), and not much heat or anything. If you are using multi-monitor, blu-ray, hulu, etc. you do increase load a bit but it's still pretty modest, like 500 MHz and .85 volts or something. Cards only hit their top clocks and voltages when confronted with heavy 3D workloads like games.

As much as I hate XFX's DD cooler, let's not get carried away here--if you don't overclock, then the card will not get too hot. The problem is that the XFX's DD is the bare minimum for that. So if you try to clock above and beyond the factory settings with the DD cooler, it gets too hot.

The guy with the XFX 7970 DD Black Edition sounds like he may be overclocking. That's bad news with that card given the cooler kinda sucks. Although maybe it's not because he's overclocking, but because of a dust issue. I remember my 7970 dropped 8C in load temperatures once I cleaned its fans and the front and side intakes and front, side, and rear fans in my case (Corsair 500R with some meshing I put on the front/sides to filter dust).

Bottom line: you said you don't intend to overclock so a XFX DD 7970 at a cheap price is probably fine. But if you do intend to overclock, pick something with a better cooler. You don't need to get carried away and buy a Vapor-X or anything, because pretty much ANY other cooler is going to be better than the XFX DD.
 
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tential said:
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Originally Posted by Communism View Post
My XFX 7970 DD Black Edition is stock at 1.175 volts, and boy does it run hot.

It gets over 95C when its 80F Ambient when its the only card in an Antec 1100 case. (Card thermal Throttles at 95 degrees)
I don't see this card in your signature do you still have it? Overall, how do you feel about the card since you have or still have owned it. Would you personally right now pay the extra $40 dollars and just get a better card.
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It's not in my signature because I can't fit 4 video cards in my signature without going over limit 😛

It's a terrible card, worst 7970 design on the market.

The card hits powertune limit at stock clocks in basically everything. You have to put the powertune limit to +20% or else it won't even run at 1000 mhz.

When you put the powertune limit to +20%, the card overheats.

Just a bad card by all accounts.
 
blastingcap said:
Cards automatically underclock and undervolt when not in use, and this automatic underclocking/undervolting technology has been around for like, decades. Idle wattage is like 10 watts (300 MHz and something like .80 volts), and not much heat or anything. If you are using multi-monitor, blu-ray, hulu, etc. you do increase load a bit but it's still pretty modest, like 500 MHz and .85 volts or something. Cards only hit their top clocks and voltages when confronted with heavy 3D workloads like games.

As much as I hate XFX's DD cooler, let's not get carried away here--if you don't overclock, then the card will not get too hot. The problem is that the XFX's DD is the bare minimum for that. So if you try to clock above and beyond the factory settings with the DD cooler, it gets too hot.

The guy with the XFX 7970 DD Black Edition sounds like he may be overclocking. That's bad news with that card given the cooler kinda sucks. Although maybe it's not because he's overclocking, but because of a dust issue. I remember my 7970 dropped 8C in load temperatures once I cleaned its fans and the front and side intakes and front, side, and rear fans in my case (Corsair 500R with some meshing I put on the front/sides to filter dust).

Bottom line: you said you don't intend to overclock so a XFX DD 7970 at a cheap price is probably fine. But if you do intend to overclock, pick something with a better cooler. You don't need to get carried away and buy a Vapor-X or anything, because pretty much ANY other cooler is going to be better than the XFX DD.
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I plan on coupling this card with the best case I can afford. I did a cheap case once. This is going to be in my gaming/movie room, so I'd prefer not to hear it so noise is an issue, but, I do have more money. Worse comes to worse, I just purchase another PC and have a gaming PC and an HTPC there.

I'm locked at 1920x1080 resolution too, my TV doesn't support higher resolutions (obviously), and 4k isn't going to be affordable and neither will projectors be for a long time at my intended screen size (minimum of 70 inches, I'm not going backwards).

I'm just wondering from ya'lls perspectives is the XFX at 360 worth it or is spending the extra 20-40 worth it? I don't intend to OC, but of course who knows what the future holds and what games will come out that I may just need that extra boost. That Sapphire card linked is only 390. That makes that difference $30 now. I just don't know the difference because I only ever looked at reference reviews, never bothered too much into card features since when I purchased stuff like this before I played only Counter Strike, and Lineage 2, Lowest settings possible so I didn't have graphics distracting me and could run as many clients as possible in Lineage 2. Now, Graphics and noise are important, and card features help get to those desired noise levels haha.
 
tential said:
I plan on coupling this card with the best case I can afford. I did a cheap case once. This is going to be in my gaming/movie room, so I'd prefer not to hear it so noise is an issue, but, I do have more money. Worse comes to worse, I just purchase another PC and have a gaming PC and an HTPC there.

I'm locked at 1920x1080 resolution too, my TV doesn't support higher resolutions (obviously), and 4k isn't going to be affordable and neither will projectors be for a long time at my intended screen size (minimum of 70 inches, I'm not going backwards).

I'm just wondering from ya'lls perspectives is the XFX at 360 worth it or is spending the extra 20-40 worth it? I don't intend to OC, but of course who knows what the future holds and what games will come out that I may just need that extra boost. That Sapphire card linked is only 390. That makes that difference $30 now. I just don't know the difference because I only ever looked at reference reviews, never bothered too much into card features since when I purchased stuff like this before I played only Counter Strike, and Lineage 2, Lowest settings possible so I didn't have graphics distracting me and could run as many clients as possible in Lineage 2. Now, Graphics and noise are important, and card features help get to those desired noise levels haha.
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If you care about noise, then the HIS card I linked earlier will be your best bet.

The Sapphire Dual-X is really only a 250w TDP cooler to be honest.
The HIS IceQ X^2 is definitely a 350w+ TDP cooler and will have lower fan speeds and lower noise at whatever load than the other cards.

Offtopic: Greetings fellow lineage 2 player 😀
 
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tential said:
I plan on coupling this card with the best case I can afford. I did a cheap case once. This is going to be in my gaming/movie room, so I'd prefer not to hear it so noise is an issue, but, I do have more money. Worse comes to worse, I just purchase another PC and have a gaming PC and an HTPC there.

I'm locked at 1920x1080 resolution too, my TV doesn't support higher resolutions (obviously), and 4k isn't going to be affordable and neither will projectors be for a long time at my intended screen size (minimum of 70 inches, I'm not going backwards).

I'm just wondering from ya'lls perspectives is the XFX at 360 worth it or is spending the extra 20-40 worth it? I don't intend to OC, but of course who knows what the future holds and what games will come out that I may just need that extra boost. That Sapphire card linked is only 390. That makes that difference $30 now. I just don't know the difference because I only ever looked at reference reviews, never bothered too much into card features since when I purchased stuff like this before I played only Counter Strike, and Lineage 2, Lowest settings possible so I didn't have graphics distracting me and could run as many clients as possible in Lineage 2. Now, Graphics and noise are important, and card features help get to those desired noise levels haha.
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Given this extra information I would pay the $30 extra for the Sapphire (I think you are talking about http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009B6Y01Y since that's the only Sapphire card linked to in this thread so far). I have that card and its cooler is great. Very quiet and cool. Even if you only ever run it at stock speeds, you will appreciate how quiet it is. And if you ever want to overclock, it will be great for that, too. The HIS card is good too, but that guy recommending it apparently didn't see how you plan to stick to stock and maaaybe push it if needed. For your purposes, the HIS cooler is just overkill and I'd rather pocket the difference. Heck I am not sure you even really need a 7970, if you're playing undemanding games. Even a HD7850 is enough for those games you listed, and that's with graphics turned to max.
 
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There must be something wrong with certain samples of the XFX 7970 DD, I had one, and it kept the core temps under 70c at all times, the problem area was that the VRM temps would soar into the 100c range under normal loads. I would say that if you are looking in the price range of the XFX DD 7970 go for a MSI Twin Frozr 7950 or a HIS IceQ² 7950 and save 30 bucks. The boost edition 7950 cards are really close to 7970 performance stock, and its almost 100% guarantee that on stock volts you can do 1000mhz core/ 1400mhz memory matching a 7970. Just my honest opinion.
 
Interesting. I have an XFX DD 7970 and have had zero issues with throttling or temperatures. I'm going to install OCCT right now and give it a whirl, see what happens.
 
FWIU, the only issue with the XFX DD cooler is the VRM run hotter. Not a problem if you aren't going to O/C, but what's the point of that. Free performance and easy to do. People having their cards run really hot must have some other issue with the card (poorly mounted heat sink, maybe?). Be that as it may, I'm not recommending a 7970 that you can't O/C.

OP, my recommendation for gaming is a good 7950 and O/C it. Even w/o extra voltage a 7950 will reach 7970GHz gameplay experience levels.
 
3DVagabond said:
FWIU, the only issue with the XFX DD cooler is the VRM run hotter..
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10 minutes with OCCT confirms this on mine. My VRM1 hit 95C in under 7 minutes, so I stopped the test. The actual GPU was 79C at the time, but with just 45% GPU fan speed. If that were kicked up, it probably would have dropped lower. Not sure if it would have helped the VRM heat very much though.
 
cbrunny said:
10 minutes with OCCT confirms this on mine. My VRM1 hit 95C in under 7 minutes, so I stopped the test. The actual GPU was 79C at the time, but with just 45% GPU fan speed. If that were kicked up, it probably would have dropped lower. Not sure if it would have helped the VRM heat very much though.
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I have disassembled 2 xfx cards very hard to do.

I put on prolimatech's cooler's for a vga card and a pair of rose will 140mm fans cost is close to 90 bucks. they work fine after that. the xfx heat sink for the chip also cools every vram uses heating pads for contact. for all the vram contacts. this means maxing the fans will cool the vram down a bit it also means loud fast fans. I have the old heat sink maybe some pads are stuck on it. let me look.




this heatsink
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835242030

with these fans

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...irtualParent=1

and then it is quiet and cool. also really big
 
blastingcap said:
Given this extra information I would pay the $30 extra for the Sapphire (I think you are talking about http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009B6Y01Y since that's the only Sapphire card linked to in this thread so far). I have that card and its cooler is great. Very quiet and cool. Even if you only ever run it at stock speeds, you will appreciate how quiet it is. And if you ever want to overclock, it will be great for that, too. The HIS card is good too, but that guy recommending it apparently didn't see how you plan to stick to stock and maaaybe push it if needed. For your purposes, the HIS cooler is just overkill and I'd rather pocket the difference. Heck I am not sure you even really need a 7970, if you're playing undemanding games. Even a HD7850 is enough for those games you listed, and that's with graphics turned to max.
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Oh no I don't play CS or Lineage 2. I plan on playing every game I missed. BioShock, Far Cry, Mass Effect, Dead Space, etc. Basically any single player game. Xbox One/Ps4(most likely XB1) will be for online for me haha. None of my friends PC game anymore and I don't have the time for it. I've thought about the 7850 though, but I don't think that'd play current games at 1080p maximum would it? I plan on playing as many single players as possible. I've missed out on a lot of great games, but now I have time to play them for a bit haha. I've thought about the 7850 though, but I don't think that'd play current games at 1080p maximum would it? I plan on playing as many single players as possible. I'm certainly open to suggestion. I thought I should get the 7970 because the price is decent and doesn't seem to be dropping any lower, but I really don't know. I'll be extremely happy, as long as my graphics are better than the Xbox One, and I get great graphical quality at 1080p. Only reason I didn't play any games so far is because 720p Xbox 360 graphics were unacceptable to me. They just look terrible on my 70 inch TV compared to 1080p. NBA 2k13 looked so horrific that I have to play it on a smaller TV farther away so I don't notice the graphical imperfections and I don't want that type of experience on single player games. I just fired up Dark Souls Prepare to Die, and I was impressed with that on my PC and I don't have anything special running on the DSfix mod, so I know I'll be happy with anything, but my benchmark is better than Xbox One. Noticeably better.

Haha I love Lineage 2 Communism, but I don't have the time to play it. It worked when I was 15-17 with 12+ hours a day to play during summer, but I'm 24 now, graduated college, know more girls than I can keep track of, and have a much bigger social life so Lineage 2 or any MMO wouldn't work. Unless it's a private server where I can purchase my items, I don't have the time to farm (Official servers where you can purchase items just bore me).

I've thought about the 7850 though, but I don't think that'd play current games at 1080p maximum would it? I plan on playing as many single players as possible.

Edit: XFX reviews on Amazon don't look too good either. The sapphire card posted here has glowing reviews. The XFX's top review still has the user having to send it back. Not really cool with that when I purchase your "black edition" I expect it to be the best thing ever, not something riddled with issues so ya, I think I'll drop it and spend the extra, or get a different card.
 
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Don't get a 7850, get a 7950.. Better price, better thermals, overall you will get a better card for less money than the 7970 by XFX. I can't preach the quality of the HIS 7950 enough, it is an amazing piece that I want to leave my case open to look at lol, and it comes in at 329.00 which is still cheaper than the XFX 7970 and it will be a better card in the long haul.
 
tential said:
Oh no I don't play CS or Lineage 2. I plan on playing every game I missed. BioShock, Far Cry, Mass Effect, Dead Space, etc. Basically any single player game. Xbox One/Ps4(most likely XB1) will be for online for me haha. None of my friends PC game anymore and I don't have the time for it. I've thought about the 7850 though, but I don't think that'd play current games at 1080p maximum would it? I plan on playing as many single players as possible. I've missed out on a lot of great games, but now I have time to play them for a bit haha. I've thought about the 7850 though, but I don't think that'd play current games at 1080p maximum would it? I plan on playing as many single players as possible. I'm certainly open to suggestion. I thought I should get the 7970 because the price is decent and doesn't seem to be dropping any lower, but I really don't know. I'll be extremely happy, as long as my graphics are better than the Xbox One, and I get great graphical quality at 1080p. Only reason I didn't play any games so far is because 720p Xbox 360 graphics were unacceptable to me. They just look terrible on my 70 inch TV compared to 1080p. NBA 2k13 looked so horrific that I have to play it on a smaller TV farther away so I don't notice the graphical imperfections and I don't want that type of experience on single player games. I just fired up Dark Souls Prepare to Die, and I was impressed with that on my PC and I don't have anything special running on the DSfix mod, so I know I'll be happy with anything, but my benchmark is better than Xbox One. Noticeably better.

Haha I love Lineage 2 Communism, but I don't have the time to play it. It worked when I was 15-17 with 12+ hours a day to play during summer, but I'm 24 now, graduated college, know more girls than I can keep track of, and have a much bigger social life so Lineage 2 or any MMO wouldn't work. Unless it's a private server where I can purchase my items, I don't have the time to farm (Official servers where you can purchase items just bore me).

I've thought about the 7850 though, but I don't think that'd play current games at 1080p maximum would it? I plan on playing as many single players as possible.

Edit: XFX reviews on Amazon don't look too good either. The sapphire card posted here has glowing reviews. The XFX's top review still has the user having to send it back. Not really cool with that when I purchase your "black edition" I expect it to be the best thing ever, not something riddled with issues so ya, I think I'll drop it and spend the extra, or get a different card.
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The 7850 is a little weak and might not be powerful enough dependent on games and settings.

If your looking for more bang for the buck maybe one of the following cards would work better for you.

HD 7870 XT's

http://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-Dis...rds=HD+7870+XT

http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeo...rds=HD+7870+XT

HD 7950

http://www.amazon.com/HIS-Boost-Cloc...ywords=HD+7950
 
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