Time to upgrade from a Sony KDL-52XBR4 bought in 2007. Top of the line and very EXPENSIVE at the time. Now, I am a cheapskate looking for a 65" for streaming, tv, and movies. Budgeting less than $500. Considering a Samsung TU690T, Hisense U6K, or ????? Rtings shows both are good budget tvs. Thoughts?
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Time For A New TV
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Tech Junky
Diamond Member
I've played with a few of their projectors now and they're decent. Currently using their px2. I would think their standard TV options should be decent as well.
VirtualLarry
No Lifer
I have a Hisense energy-star mini fridge.
Tech Junky
Diamond Member
It's all personal preference as my eyes aren't your eyes. Best idea would be find a store with a large selection and see if you can tell the difference. There should be some niche AV stores around you that have more options you find in the typical box store.
You can even find a pretty good stock at WM these days. Or go my route and get a PJ and adjust size as needed if you have enough shade in the room you're using it in. Just add a streamer stick to it unless you find one with it built in. The nice ting about the PJ option is the screen size adjustment just by moving them closer / farther away from the wall. I can do a typical size with just inches away or I can pull it back further and fill the whole wall to the ceiling. I didn't bother with a "screen" and just point it at the wall but, there might be some better daytime performance with a screen that deflects ambient light.
mindless1
Diamond Member
Samsung over Hisense EVERY TIME it fits in the budget. Hisense uses lower build quality and buggy firmware that they don't fix especially if it's android OS on their budget lines of TVs. At the same time, while Samsung Tizen OS is very popular due to how popular Samsung TVs are, it does not have the universal app support that Android OS TVs have, so if you want an Android TV, pick a top tier brand that puts enough resources into development/debugging, not Hisense.
I'd sooner just get the Samsung if these are the choices then if you need full android support, get an android HDMI dongle to run those if the day comes that you find apps you need that won't run on Tizen. Most people won't care but the Samsungs also come with Samsung TV Plus feature which is hundreds of B-list channels that stream for free, and is integrated reasonably well with the remote so not as much wading through menus to use. On the other hand, their budget TVs have pretty pedestrian remotes if you are picky about that.
www.samsung.com
I'd sooner just get the Samsung if these are the choices then if you need full android support, get an android HDMI dongle to run those if the day comes that you find apps you need that won't run on Tizen. Most people won't care but the Samsungs also come with Samsung TV Plus feature which is hundreds of B-list channels that stream for free, and is integrated reasonably well with the remote so not as much wading through menus to use. On the other hand, their budget TVs have pretty pedestrian remotes if you are picky about that.
Smart TVs | Free Live TV with Samsung TV Plus | Samsung US
Stream free live TV, movies, and shows with Samsung TV Plus. Access hundreds of channels and on-demand content at no cost.
www.samsung.com
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We did this yesterday with a local tv only store. Impressed with both Samsung and LG. QLED, QNED, OLED, Edgelit, Backlit, LED, mini-LED has come a LONG way over 17 years. OLED is great, but more expensive. Thinking more about the others and backlighting.
Good suggestions. We have a Roku stick we use. Even as old as our Sony is, it still came with some built in streaming services. Obviously the Roku provides more. Now that TVs do it, Roku may be obsolete, but we have it if needed.Samsung over Hisense EVERY TIME it fits in the budget. Hisense uses lower build quality and buggy firmware that they don't fix especially if it's android OS on their budget lines of TVs. At the same time, while Samsung Tizen OS is very popular due to how popular Samsung TVs are, it does not have the universal app support that Android OS TVs have, so if you want an Android TV, pick a major brand, not Hisense.
I'd sooner just get the Samsung if these are the choices then if you need full android support, get an android HDMI dongle to run those if the day comes that you find apps you need that won't run on Tizen. Most people won't care but the Samsungs also come with Samsung TV Plus feature which is hundreds of B-list channels that stream for free, and is integrated reasonably well with the remote so not as much wading through menus to use. On the other hand, their budget TVs have pretty pedestrian remotes if you are picky about that.
Smart TVs | Free Live TV with Samsung TV Plus | Samsung US
Stream free live TV, movies, and shows with Samsung TV Plus. Access hundreds of channels and on-demand content at no cost.
Tech Junky
Diamond Member
Might be overkill for brightness but, I've been trying to source a panel for a laptop using this because well it would work better in sunlight. They tend to be 3x brighter than a traditional laptop screen but not as much compared to a TV. However with more dimming zones could be a great option.
balloonshark
Diamond Member
<---- Not an expert.
I think I would get a TCL over those brands. If you get the hisense I think they recommend not connecting the tv to the internet as the heat kills the smart tv. Use a streaming device instead and do any firmware updates with a usb stick if it's possible.
This past winter I picked up a Sony X90L. I went with it because of the good upscaling. It was around $1000 but I took out an amazon credit card which came with a $200 credit that I applied when I purchased the tv. I was also looking at comparably priced TCL and Hisense tvs but reddit seemed to recommend the X90L so I splurged and went with the Sony.
I think I would get a TCL over those brands. If you get the hisense I think they recommend not connecting the tv to the internet as the heat kills the smart tv. Use a streaming device instead and do any firmware updates with a usb stick if it's possible.
This past winter I picked up a Sony X90L. I went with it because of the good upscaling. It was around $1000 but I took out an amazon credit card which came with a $200 credit that I applied when I purchased the tv. I was also looking at comparably priced TCL and Hisense tvs but reddit seemed to recommend the X90L so I splurged and went with the Sony.
mindless1
Diamond Member
^ The Hisense I put up with and resurrected from a self-bricked state, after the first few months of lockups, I had it disconnected from the internet and every *smart* thing available in the menu, disabled. That didn't leave it capable of just being a dumb display panel, still locked up and eventually wouldn't boot at all. A bug caused it to eat up nv memory and once full, can't boot. Did a forced reset that happens with a firmware update to clear the nv memory to get it working, but same firmware it already had because there isn't a newer version. Plus they have terrible customer support, even the useless canned reply emails weren't in good english.
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I don't know about TCL anymore. I liked the fact that Roku was built in. My 32" TCL in the bedroom has lasted 6-7 years with no issues
When my living room set, Samsung 40" 650, bit the dust after 12-13 years I replaced it with a 43"TCL 4k in 2022, which lasted 14 months.
I replaced that TCL with a 50" Visio and it's been doing fine but I miss the speed of the Roku. Vizio has many built in streaming apps but it's really slow compared to the Roku.
My Samsung was the best of all the flat screens I've had.
When my living room set, Samsung 40" 650, bit the dust after 12-13 years I replaced it with a 43"TCL 4k in 2022, which lasted 14 months.
I replaced that TCL with a 50" Visio and it's been doing fine but I miss the speed of the Roku. Vizio has many built in streaming apps but it's really slow compared to the Roku.
My Samsung was the best of all the flat screens I've had.
igor_kavinski
Lifer
I know offtopic but I have a TCL phone. It's decent for the price I paid.
Funny thing, my 43 inch LG lasted exactly 12 months and a week or something, outside the warranty period. I think quite a few corners are cut in these 43 inchers. My issue was a failed mobo which they wanted more than half the price of the TV to replace so gave it to some guy I knew. Maybe he got it fixed on the cheap? Didn't hear about it afterwards.
I just got a 360Hz Samsung 27 inch monitor. Feelings are mixed. While I love the deeper colors of the OLED, the brightness is definitely lower than the previous Gawfolk VA panel monitor I was using. "Infinite" contrast with lower brightness kinda making it seem like a downgrade, despite costing almost 8 times as much. I guess it would pay off in HDR and high fps smoothness?
I prefer the colors on LG TVs. For sharp image and absolutely lovely motion, there is no beating Sony.
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IGBT
Lifer
I still have this and see no reason to replace it: " The Samsung UN75JU641DF is a 75-inch, 4K Ultra HD (UHD) Smart LED TV released around 2015. As part of Samsung's 6 Series, it features a slim, flat design and a quad-core processor for smooth performance.."
justatrucker56
Junior Member
We own a Hisense 65U6N purchased it last year on line.. So far best TV I have owned in a very long time.
justatrucker56
Junior Member
I still own a TCL, but it is in the garage.. issue with that, from day one, we would get a warning about the tv over heating. Called TCL and they were useless as far as why it was happening.. We had other issues with picture quality, sound etc... It still gives off that message 4 years later, but still works good as a tv in the man cave. Hisense zero issues 1 year later.
Steltek
Diamond Member
Here is one for you - LG now offering subscription TV rental in the UK:
WelshBloke
Lifer
It's like the 1970s all over again!
WelshBloke
Lifer
The maths always used to be awful on renting electronics. It was always the most expensive way of not owning anything it was possible to do.
Steltek
Diamond Member
Yeah, they still do exist. I have a cousin that leases-to-own things he can't afford from them, at eye-watering credit card level interest rates. Ironically, I saw a Rent One (his current local rent-to-own vendor of choice) delivery truck just today at his house (either dropping something else off to him, or reclaiming something - don't know which). By the time he completes any one of his contracts, he will have paid enough in interest to literally buy three of what he is renting. I've tried repeatedly to explain this to him multiple times, but it literally goes in one ear and out the other.
The difference between that and what LG is doing is that after you pay off a rent-to-own contract, usurious as it may be, you do in the end own the TV.
LG isn't doing that. You complete the lease, then get the choice to either:
1) keep the TV until the contract ends, then pay a £50 ($70) removal fee to send it back, and you end up with nothing in return, or
2) keep paying to lease the TV, or
3) upgrade to a new TV with a new lease.
In other words, a perfect example of the "you'll own nothing and be happy about it" scenario.
As some have opined: Being poor in America is expensive.
The only thing I buy from LG is front load washers. I am only on my second one this century.
My Hisense gaming TV is going strong over a year later. My hypothesis is, since I use it as a dumb TV, it will last much longer. I have been using 120Hz instead of maxing it out too. I don't play anything competitive, so it's plenty.
Steltek
Diamond Member
TCL has now signed a MOU that gains them controlling interest in producing Sony Bravia TVs and Sony home audio systems.
www.sony.co.jp
Given TCL's demonstrated inability to provide even basic good faith warranty service for the products they sell, it will be interesting to see what happens to the Bravia brand as a result.
My personal opinion is that TCL will turn it into just another junk brand.
So, if you are looking to buy a Bravia TV, might want to buy it now before the TCL branded versions hit the stores.
Sony Corporation - Sony and TCL Sign Memorandum of Understanding for Strategic Partnership in Home Entertainment Field
Sony Corporation ("Sony") and TCL Electronics Holdings Limited ("TCL") today announced that the two companies have agreed to move forward with discussions and consideration for a strategic partnership in the home entertainment field.
Given TCL's demonstrated inability to provide even basic good faith warranty service for the products they sell, it will be interesting to see what happens to the Bravia brand as a result.
My personal opinion is that TCL will turn it into just another junk brand.
So, if you are looking to buy a Bravia TV, might want to buy it now before the TCL branded versions hit the stores.
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