Time for a new hobby! Firearm enthusiasts please read.

Yossarian

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Ok I'm interested in learning to shoot. I want to buy a quality handgun, take some classes to learn how to handle it safely & respectfully and learn the appropriate laws in California. This would be for fun and home protection.

What weapon do you recommend? I used to go out target shooting w/.22 rifles many years ago but that's it for experience.

What are some good websites to check out?

Are there any good ranges in SoCal? Good places to buy firearms? Take classes?

I don't know enough to ask any good questions yet but you gotta start somewhere :)

TIA
 

Analog

Lifer
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Kalifornia is not the best place for this kind of thing due to the political climate, but i would open the phone book and check out the local shooting range for classes etc. Maybe stop a the local gun shop and ask the people there about the same question.
 

boi

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I see you live in Redondo Beach. Theres a place close by that I go to about once every month. Its called sharpshooter
You have to sign up for a safety class before you get to start shooting in their range/gun shop. They teach you the basics of gun shooting(how to point the gun, check the chamber, etc.) For starters, I recommend a Colt 1911(any model will do) or a Kimber 1911. Do not buy a cheap gun as your first gun, your most likely going to keep it for a long time.
Happy shootin!!:)
 

StageLeft

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I say start big. You need a desert eagle .50 because in the words of bullet tooth tony "...the fact that I've got DESERT EAGLE .50 written down the side of mine, should precipitate your balls into shrinking".
 

her209

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I say start big. You need a desert eagle .50 because in the words of bullet tooth tony "...the fact that I've got DESERT EAGLE .50 written down the side of mine, should precipitate your balls into shrinking".
 

bolido2000

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I am interested in this too. How much can I expect to spend in guns, bullets, range, etc?
 

Analog

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I say start big. You need a desert eagle .50 because in the words of bullet tooth tony "...the fact that I've got DESERT EAGLE .50 written down the side of mine, should precipitate your balls into shrinking".

That must be Canada envy... To own one of those in Canada, you'd probably have to cut off one of your nads and then some....
 

Analog

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Originally posted by: bolido2000
I am interested in this too. How much can I expect to spend in guns, bullets, range, etc?

If you want to shoot cheap, stay with a round the military uses, because surplus ammo for these is readily available. 9mm, .45, 9x18, .30 carbine, etc.

As far as pistols themselves, I'd give the same advice. The US military uses the Beretta 92FS, mags and parts are cheap and readliy available. The M1911 .45 auto is in the same boat. HTH
 

StageLeft

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That must be Canada envy... To own one of those in Canada, you'd probably have to cut off one of your nads and then some....
You wish! Guns for show, knives for a pro :)

 

bolido2000

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Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: bolido2000
I am interested in this too. How much can I expect to spend in guns, bullets, range, etc?

If you want to shoot cheap, stay with a round the military uses, because surplus ammo for these is readily available. 9mm, .45, 9x18, .30 carbine, etc.

As far as pistols themselves, I'd give the same advice. The US military uses the Beretta 92FS, mags and parts are cheap and readliy available. The M1911 .45 auto is in the same boat. HTH

Could you tell me how much I would need to start?
 

boi

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Bolido, it really depends what you get. For good handguns, they range from around $450 to $3000(Custom parts for accuracy and reliability) depending on brand and model . If you shoot a lot, you should consider getting machines for reloading. You could go to Turners Outdoorsmen and they will tell you all you need to know about reloading. It will save you a bundle over the long run. It's not the cheapest hobby in the world but is worth every penny.
 

LethalWolfe

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Since yer loooking to start a hobby and aren't neccessarily<sp?> looking for a protection piece I'd start small. I have a .22LR Berretta (gift for 17th b-day) that is an absolute dream to shoot. Plus .22 ammo is dirt cheap (like 10-15 cents a round) so it's great to practice with. When I go shooting I usually take my .22 and my Walther PP. I'll pull off 50-75 rounds w/the Walther and maybe 150-200 rounds on the .22.

I wouldn't start off w/a large calibur pistol 'cause they have a longer "learning curve", hurt to fire if yer not used the recoil, and there ammo is more expensive. It's kinda like if you wanted to take up racing, you wouldn't hop in an F1 car yer first day out.

Lethal
 

Analog

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Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: bolido2000
I am interested in this too. How much can I expect to spend in guns, bullets, range, etc?

If you want to shoot cheap, stay with a round the military uses, because surplus ammo for these is readily available. 9mm, .45, 9x18, .30 carbine, etc.

As far as pistols themselves, I'd give the same advice. The US military uses the Beretta 92F, mags and parts are cheap and readliy available. The M1911 .45 auto is in the same boat. HTH

Could you tell me how much I would need to start?

a blued 92F goes for around $500, 1000 rounds of 9mm military surplus FMJ goes for around $100. Less for both if you hunt the gun shows and find a private seller. Don't forget some basic accessories like holsters, extra mags, etc.
 

Aquaman

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I say start big. You need a desert eagle .50 because in the words of bullet tooth tony "...the fact that I've got DESERT EAGLE .50 written down the side of mine, should precipitate your balls into shrinking".

hahaha Snatch ? :D

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

LethalWolfe

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Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: bolido2000
I am interested in this too. How much can I expect to spend in guns, bullets, range, etc?

If you want to shoot cheap, stay with a round the military uses, because surplus ammo for these is readily available. 9mm, .45, 9x18, .30 carbine, etc.

As far as pistols themselves, I'd give the same advice. The US military uses the Beretta 92F, mags and parts are cheap and readliy available. The M1911 .45 auto is in the same boat. HTH

Could you tell me how much I would need to start?

a blued 92F goes for around $500, 1000 rounds of 9mm military surplus FMJ goes for around $100. Less for both if you hunt the gun shows and find a private seller. Don't forget some basic accessories like holsters, extra mags, etc.

Just be careful of "gun show ammo" 'cause you can get screwed and there's usually zip you can 'bout it.


Lethal
 
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Here in TX the only thing you'd need is a pistol, some rounds, and maybe a gun rug to store it in. When I shoot I don't bother with ranges, just drive out of the city and pull down the farm roads and shoot. I've been to ranges out in Nevada and didn't really like it. A lot of people, etc. The ranges here are ok, but you still have to wait for others to finish shooting to get your target (unless you shoot at the army range which I can go to, but it's more work).

I just like to throw some watermellons or whatever fruit out or throw it into the river. Not that ranges are a huge hassle, it's just easier to drive out to the river and do it.

But yeah, expect to spend about $400+ on a decent first gun. You could press your luck with a KelTec P11, you could snag one for under $300 and they are decent, reliable, small handguns.
 

Analog

Lifer
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Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: bolido2000
I am interested in this too. How much can I expect to spend in guns, bullets, range, etc?

If you want to shoot cheap, stay with a round the military uses, because surplus ammo for these is readily available. 9mm, .45, 9x18, .30 carbine, etc.

As far as pistols themselves, I'd give the same advice. The US military uses the Beretta 92F, mags and parts are cheap and readliy available. The M1911 .45 auto is in the same boat. HTH

Could you tell me how much I would need to start?

a blued 92F goes for around $500, 1000 rounds of 9mm military surplus FMJ goes for around $100. Less for both if you hunt the gun shows and find a private seller. Don't forget some basic accessories like holsters, extra mags, etc.

Just be careful of "gun show ammo" 'cause you can get screwed and there's usually zip you can 'bout it.


Lethal


not sure what you're talking about...
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
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not sure what you're talking about...
A lot of people save shell casings and "make their own ammo". I suppose he's talking about that. People can make good reliable ammo though, since it's based on pre-manufactured casings and genuine article explosive, so it's not as bad as it sounds.

 

etech

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Originally posted by: PipBoy
Ok I'm interested in learning to shoot. I want to buy a quality handgun, take some classes to learn how to handle it safely & respectfully and learn the appropriate laws in California. This would be for fun and home protection.

What weapon do you recommend? I used to go out target shooting w/.22 rifles many years ago but that's it for experience.

What are some good websites to check out?

Are there any good ranges in SoCal? Good places to buy firearms? Take classes?

I don't know enough to ask any good questions yet but you gotta start somewhere :)

TIA

Handgun Information Page

I'd recommend starting with a 22 pistol. See if you like it, the ammo is cheap and you can learn to shoot fairly inexpensively. After that it would be what do you need the pistol for. Home defense, a 380 would be the smallest you would want. Do you perfer revolver or automatic. How big are your hands and what can you hold comfortably. Read the link above for awhile and you'll get some good ideas.
 

AlienCraft

Lifer
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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: PipBoy
Ok I'm interested in learning to shoot. I want to buy a quality handgun, take some classes to learn how to handle it safely & respectfully and learn the appropriate laws in California. This would be for fun and home protection.

What weapon do you recommend? I used to go out target shooting w/.22 rifles many years ago but that's it for experience.

What are some good websites to check out?

Are there any good ranges in SoCal? Good places to buy firearms? Take classes?

I don't know enough to ask any good questions yet but you gotta start somewhere :)

TIA

Handgun Information Page

I'd recommend starting with a 22 pistol. See if you like it, the ammo is cheap and you can learn to shoot fairly inexpensively. After that it would be what do you need the pistol for. Home defense, a 380 would be the smallest you would want. Do you perfer revolver or automatic. How big are your hands and what can you hold comfortably. Read the link above for awhile and you'll get some good ideas.
I agree 100% with this. .22 has been the gateway caliber for many a marksman.
In California, be prepared to wait for 2 weeks while they run a background check on you, no Felonies or drug convictions. Pistol ranges are becoming more common up here in NoCal.
Have fun and be safe.

 

wnied

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For starters, I recommend a Colt 1911(any model will do) or a Kimber 1911.

What the hell is a beginner going to do with a colt 1911? That hand cannon is for the moderately experienced shooter. For a first gun I would recommend the Baretta 9mm 92F model. Quick, light, and an easy gun to master.


...heh..a 1911 he says for a first timer. Thats funny.
~wnied~
 

boi

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Originally posted by: wnied
For starters, I recommend a Colt 1911(any model will do) or a Kimber 1911.

What the hell is a beginner going to do with a colt 1911? That hand cannon is for the moderately experienced shooter. For a first gun I would recommend the Baretta 9mm 92F model. Quick, light, and an easy gun to master.


...heh..a 1911 he says for a first timer. Thats funny.
~wnied~

1911's also come in 9mm.:)
 

LethalWolfe

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Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: bolido2000
I am interested in this too. How much can I expect to spend in guns, bullets, range, etc?

If you want to shoot cheap, stay with a round the military uses, because surplus ammo for these is readily available. 9mm, .45, 9x18, .30 carbine, etc.

As far as pistols themselves, I'd give the same advice. The US military uses the Beretta 92F, mags and parts are cheap and readliy available. The M1911 .45 auto is in the same boat. HTH

Could you tell me how much I would need to start?

a blued 92F goes for around $500, 1000 rounds of 9mm military surplus FMJ goes for around $100. Less for both if you hunt the gun shows and find a private seller. Don't forget some basic accessories like holsters, extra mags, etc.

Just be careful of "gun show ammo" 'cause you can get screwed and there's usually zip you can 'bout it.


Lethal


not sure what you're talking about...

What I mean is if you get a box of bad rounds yer pretty much screwed outta yer money (unless you find out where the guy lives and demand a refund). Not too long ago my dad picked up a coupla boxes of .38 ammo from a fairly large local show and, I kid you not, 'bout every 3rd round was a dud.

He usually gets his ammo at gun shows, but ending up w/two sh*t boxes was a frusterating experience.

Buyer beware is all I'm saying.


Lethal
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: wnied
For starters, I recommend a Colt 1911(any model will do) or a Kimber 1911.

What the hell is a beginner going to do with a colt 1911? That hand cannon is for the moderately experienced shooter. For a first gun I would recommend the Baretta 9mm 92F model. Quick, light, and an easy gun to master.


...heh..a 1911 he says for a first timer. Thats funny.
~wnied~

The first pistol I ever fired was a 1911 Colt. Literally, model 1911, made in 1914 or close to that (I forget off the top of my head). I was 13. Sure, the recoil was pretty harsh, but I had gotten used to recoil from my great uncle's side by side 12 gauge, which every now and then had this endearing habit where triggering off one chamber made the other one fire. When I first fired that (age 12) and both barrels fired just remaining standing was an accomplishment that took a little practice. I was pretty big for my age, so that helped. However, getting back to the point, firing a higher powered cartridge does teach (actually, at age 13, that should read *force*) you to handle recoil, and after you master that, firing a 9mm or a 38 is nothing, and you'll be able to make follow up shots faster. As long as it doesnt make you quit or make flinching a habit, learning with a high recoil pistol has benefits.

Oh, and there is no way I'd call a 45 ACP a "hand-cannon".

One the lighter side, if you want a pistol for home defense, allow me to share with you the "Rules of Gunfighting", some of which are serious, some of which are funny (and they are why I am including it) though still applicable:

1.)Have a gun.
a.)Preferably, have at least two guns.
b.)Bring all of your friends who have guns.

2.)Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Life is expensive.

3.)Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.

4.)If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough or using cover correctly.

5.)Proximity negates skill. Distance is your friend. (Lateral and diagonal movement are preferred.)

6.)If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a long gun... and a friend with a long gun.

7.)In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance or tactics. They will only remember who lived.

8.)If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading and running.

9.)Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the gun. Use a gun that works every time.

10.)Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

11.)Always cheat, always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.

12.)Have a plan.

a.)Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work.

13.)Use cover or concealment as much as possible.

14.)Flank your adversary when possible. Protect your own flank.

15.)The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

16.)Be polite. Be professional. But... have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

17.)Do not attend a gun fight with a handgun whose caliber does not start with a "4."