Tim Sweeny Prefers G70?
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LOL- Sweeney has always preferred nVidia, because they have always had more advanced gpus.
Except for the "glory year", when 24bit was considered "full precision".
k looks like unreal 3 and ut2007 requires minimum of ps2.0 capable card. (tim mentioned 9800 pro and 6200)
also he recommended 1024x768 for 6800 ultra in ut2007. lol.
also he recommended 1024x768 for 6800 ultra in ut2007. lol.
yeap pointless questions imo.
only good one is about dual core support but quite frankly in 2006/2007 i should hope that most games support dual core.
only good one is about dual core support but quite frankly in 2006/2007 i should hope that most games support dual core.
R200 counts as little as R300 in terms of "advanced GPU," I guess.
I figured Sweeney "prefers" nVidia b/c Epic has a little arrangement with them to slap their logo on their games. Especially since Unreal has always been the DirectX franchise to Carmack's house of OpenGL, and I believe ATI had earned the reputation of outdoing nV on the OGL front (possibly due to R200 and then R300).
Can you tell that "always" really bothered me?
not many serious gamers are still gonna have a 6800ultra by then im sure. i know i probably wont if im still into gaming.
Sweeney doesn't care whch brand runs the game 5fps faster, he cares about which has more tools for him to develop with. He does not think the 2003 feature set of ATI will cut it for his engine to be released in 2006.
Maybe no one here told him that DX9b and partial presion is "just as good"?
Not sure if you were joking but Sweeney pretty much stated that FP24 was useless for him. He stated that FP16 was fine for everything he needed for today and when he did need high levels of precission he would need FP32(which in ATi's defense, they are at 50/50 odds to do that by the time UT2K7 hits
).Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
Not sure if you were joking but Sweeney pretty much stated that FP24 was useless for him. He stated that FP16 was fine for everything he needed for today and when he did need high levels of precission he would need FP32(which in ATi's defense, they are at 50/50 odds to do that by the time UT2K7 hits
You know me Ben- I was jokiing.
Wasn't it Sweeney that said "Only a marketing person would consider 24 bit full precision"?
Developers won't necessarily care about the 2% performance differences that we salivate over. It's all about having advanced features and effective development tools at your disposal.
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Originally posted by: lopri
Well, I guess we should consider the interviewer was from NVNews..
Can someone transcript the interview? (briefly)
I couldn't understand half of the conversation due to the horrible audio quality.
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Thats ronin and rollo interviewing eachother.
It would be stupid if a 6800 Ultra couldn't run UT2k7 well.
Broad appeal, anyone? Many will still have 6600GT's and 6800GT's even then (next year). UT2k3 was released in 2002, UT2k4 in 2003 and so this one in 2006.
Damn, time goes on all too quickly when you get older.
And I'm barely 19 yet...
Broad appeal, anyone? Many will still have 6600GT's and 6800GT's even then (next year). UT2k3 was released in 2002, UT2k4 in 2003 and so this one in 2006.
Damn, time goes on all too quickly when you get older.
And I'm barely 19 yet...
I just saw the interview myself, I think it was more of a throwaway comment. Honestly, considering Epic is in the TWIMTBP program and Tim just presented for PS3, there's really no other answer he should be expected to give.
Though I imagine any dev would prefer SM3+ to SM2+, Tim doesn't seem as excited about the transition from SM2 to SM3 as Rollo does:
And the GF6 is probably preferable simply because it's likely a smaller leap from it to the upcoming consoles than from any Radeon.
But your constant nV cheer-leading is getting old, Rollo. Ease off just a bit, maybe. No one's forcing anyone to buy ATI, so I don't see the need to constantly harp on FP24 not being "full" precision, etc., etc.. A couple things are forcing Tim to praise nVidia, though. Whether he prefers it or not, you really can't tell, b/c his public comments are likely bound by marketing agreements.
lopri, the interview isn't really worth transcribing, because it doesn't cover anything new for those who've been keeping up with the other interviews and tidbits Tim's given out for UE3.
Though I imagine any dev would prefer SM3+ to SM2+, Tim doesn't seem as excited about the transition from SM2 to SM3 as Rollo does:
Granted, I'm sure he appreciates FP blending as much as any fan of eye-candy does--which is to say, everyone here.
And the GF6 is probably preferable simply because it's likely a smaller leap from it to the upcoming consoles than from any Radeon.But your constant nV cheer-leading is getting old, Rollo. Ease off just a bit, maybe. No one's forcing anyone to buy ATI, so I don't see the need to constantly harp on FP24 not being "full" precision, etc., etc.. A couple things are forcing Tim to praise nVidia, though. Whether he prefers it or not, you really can't tell, b/c his public comments are likely bound by marketing agreements.
lopri, the interview isn't really worth transcribing, because it doesn't cover anything new for those who've been keeping up with the other interviews and tidbits Tim's given out for UE3.
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In 2006 will today's cards matter?
Today's cards do matter for today's games though and ATi does run UT2003/UT2004 better unless you want to endure the noise from an SLI setup.
Not to mention past nVidia drivers where the TWIMTBP UT2003/UT2004 logo flashed shortly before the machine rebooted because of DEP being enabled.
I think the point Sweeney is trying to make is that a 2003 feature set like the X800 series will not do as well as a 2005 feature set (a la: GEFORCE6) for his new engine to be released in '06.
A. Yep. I think next year a 6800GT/U SLI will be a very usable rig.
B. LOL at "enduring the noise"- if you had ever actually heard it, you'd know why.
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