Tiger Woods wins first stroke-play event since Oct. '03

CubicZirconia

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Out of the Fog: Tiger takes Buick

It should be interesting to see what he can do during the rest of the season. If you're into watching golf this could be a good year. With Tiger not sucking and Vijay winning every other week (plus Phil and Ernie) things will definitely be interesting. I don't know if anyone cares, but this year promises to be the best since Tiger dominated in 2000.
 

PoPPeR

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Tiger
Mickelson
Vijay

it's a good time to be a golf fan

plus I think Michelle Wie will be pretty good looking once she gets older
 

CTrain

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I love golf.
Tiger won cause everyone else in contention shot over par but of course the golf course is one of the toughest course they've played.
Actually he won cause he shot a 68, and everyone else couldn't shoot under par.
 
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I saw him make his putt on 18 (not that he had to make that putt to win).

Singh finished tied for 24th. When was the last time he finished so far back?
 

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The good ol' days: Nichalos vs. Palmer

The good new days: Woods vs. Els vs. Michelson vs. Singh.

Golf is truly the hardest, most challenging, mentally difficult sport on earth. Just ask Michael Jordan. I wish TV could make it more exciting to the masses. They need to show more long iron shots and drives, and less putting. Or better yet, but a mini TV camera INSIDE a golf ball and show it in flight.

Sincerly, big time golf fan.
 

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Great ending, with the fog/mist and everything...when they changed from ABC to ESPN, I thought they had begun the loop at an earlier time since all of a sudden it was bright and clear! Donald really lost the match with the late bogeys, and Woods was soooo lucky to have pulled it so far right on the 2nd shot on the 18th.

And did you see Howell's shot? Poor guy, shot was so good that it went back into the water.
 

CubicZirconia

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Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Great ending, with the fog/mist and everything...when they changed from ABC to ESPN, I thought they had begun the loop at an earlier time since all of a sudden it was bright and clear! Donald really lost the match with the late bogeys, and Woods was soooo lucky to have pulled it so far right on the 2nd shot on the 18th.

And did you see Howell's shot? Poor guy, shot was so good that it went back into the water.

Howell's shot was incredible- a real killer. I would go into shock if that happened to me on the course. I was personally disappointed to see Tom Lehman blow his chance at the end. A poor approach at the 18th and then he missed the putt.

edit: and I was sort of hoping Tiger would have put it in the water- that definitely would have made things more interesting.
 
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They need to show more long iron shots and drives, and less putting.
The PGA has not increased the yardage of holes to match the distance of players today. You hardly ever see players hitting long irons (e.g., 2-,3-,4-irons).
 

CubicZirconia

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Originally posted by: KnickNut3
Originally posted by: Vespasian
I love golf.

I love to play golf. But watching golf is only mildly entertaining.


I agree. Only the last few holes of most tournaments, plus Sunday at the majors.

I think you really need to follow the "golf scene" to find early rounds and minor tournaments interesting. That way you know what to look for and who to pay attention to. It can be boring if you're watching without any background information. That said, I also think you need to play a lot to find TV golf interesting at all.

The PGA has not increased the yardage of holes to match the distance of players today. You hardly ever see players hitting long irons (e.g., 2-,3-,4-irons).

They've been actively increasing hole yardage in an attempt to offset recent gains in driving distance. The problem is that they'd have to have 550-600 yard par 4's and 700-800 yard par 5's to have the best players hitting long irons into the greens on a regular basis. Many courses just don't have that kind of room. To compensate they grow the rough 2 feet deep and narrow up the fairways.
 

CTrain

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Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Great ending, with the fog/mist and everything...when they changed from ABC to ESPN, I thought they had begun the loop at an earlier time since all of a sudden it was bright and clear! Donald really lost the match with the late bogeys, and Woods was soooo lucky to have pulled it so far right on the 2nd shot on the 18th.

And did you see Howell's shot? Poor guy, shot was so good that it went back into the water.

I need to see that shot in TV, I missed it.
 

CubicZirconia

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Originally posted by: CTrain
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Great ending, with the fog/mist and everything...when they changed from ABC to ESPN, I thought they had begun the loop at an earlier time since all of a sudden it was bright and clear! Donald really lost the match with the late bogeys, and Woods was soooo lucky to have pulled it so far right on the 2nd shot on the 18th.

And did you see Howell's shot? Poor guy, shot was so good that it went back into the water.

I need to see that shot in TV, I missed it.

The golf channel will probably show the highlight 50 times. I can't stand any of their anchors though.
 
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They've been actively increasing hole yardage in an attempt to offset recent gains in driving distance. The problem is that they'd have to have 550-600 yard par 4's and 700-800 yard par 5's to have the best players hitting long irons into the greens on a regular basis. Many courses just don't have that kind of room. To compensate they grow the rough 2 feet deep and narrow up the fairways.
Then why are 600+ yard Par 5's more common on municipal courses than on courses used for tour events?

 

CubicZirconia

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Originally posted by: Vespasian
They've been actively increasing hole yardage in an attempt to offset recent gains in driving distance. The problem is that they'd have to have 550-600 yard par 4's and 700-800 yard par 5's to have the best players hitting long irons into the greens on a regular basis. Many courses just don't have that kind of room. To compensate they grow the rough 2 feet deep and narrow up the fairways.
Then why are 600+ yard Par 5's more common on municipal courses than on courses used for tour events?

I sincerely doubt that they are more common. You're going to have to produce some solid numbers to get me to believe that. And even if that is true, your average tour course is still much longer than your average public course.

edit: And I should say that the par 5's on the courses in my area generally aren't much longer than 575 from the blacks. Not that anyone actually plays from the blacks, but there you have it.
 

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Originally posted by: Vespasian
I saw him make his putt on 18 (not that he had to make that putt to win).

it was actually very smart of Woods to ask for a measurement so he could go first. by holing the putt he made sure that he won the tournament. if he let Lehman go first (under the assumption that he's farther to the pin since he's not on the green) and Lehman holed the chip, it would have been a lot more pressure for Woods to hole the birdie putt to win the tournament, since a par would only make it a tie and they would have to go into extra holes.

of course Lehman didn't just not hole the birdie chip, he even ended up bogeyed the hole, but if he actually went first, the outcome might have been different.
 

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Originally posted by: CubicZirconia
Originally posted by: KnickNut3
Originally posted by: Vespasian
I love golf.

I love to play golf. But watching golf is only mildly entertaining.


I agree. Only the last few holes of most tournaments, plus Sunday at the majors.

I think you really need to follow the "golf scene" to find early rounds and minor tournaments interesting. That way you know what to look for and who to pay attention to. It can be boring if you're watching without any background information. That said, I also think you need to play a lot to find TV golf interesting at all.

I know all the stories, I follow the golf scene closely. I just don't find weak television coverage--watching putts from bird's eye views, watching a golfer hit a shot, then watching a camera on the green, waiting for it to hit, fun. I'd rather be out playing. Every few holes I can hit a shot just like the pros do, and it's more fun to do that than to watch them to it more often ;)
 

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Originally posted by: CubicZirconia
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Great ending, with the fog/mist and everything...when they changed from ABC to ESPN, I thought they had begun the loop at an earlier time since all of a sudden it was bright and clear! Donald really lost the match with the late bogeys, and Woods was soooo lucky to have pulled it so far right on the 2nd shot on the 18th.

And did you see Howell's shot? Poor guy, shot was so good that it went back into the water.

Howell's shot was incredible- a real killer. I would go into shock if that happened to me on the course. I was personally disappointed to see Tom Lehman blow his chance at the end. A poor approach at the 18th and then he missed the putt.

edit: and I was sort of hoping Tiger would have put it in the water- that definitely would have made things more interesting.

anyone have a clip of this? i had sports center on when they showed it, but I wasn't looking at the TV and only heard it :(

i really want to see it, so does anyone have a link to it?
 

CubicZirconia

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Originally posted by: KnickNut3
Originally posted by: CubicZirconia
Originally posted by: KnickNut3
Originally posted by: Vespasian
I love golf.

I love to play golf. But watching golf is only mildly entertaining.


I agree. Only the last few holes of most tournaments, plus Sunday at the majors.

I think you really need to follow the "golf scene" to find early rounds and minor tournaments interesting. That way you know what to look for and who to pay attention to. It can be boring if you're watching without any background information. That said, I also think you need to play a lot to find TV golf interesting at all.

I know all the stories, I follow the golf scene closely. I just don't find weak television coverage--watching putts from bird's eye views, watching a golfer hit a shot, then watching a camera on the green, waiting for it to hit, fun. I'd rather be out playing. Every few holes I can hit a shot just like the pros do, and it's more fun to do that than to watch them to it more often ;)

Fair enough. And don't get me wrong, I'd much rather play golf than watch it. But living in Minnesota the closest I get to a course this time a year is my membership to an indoor driving range.