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Ticketed for going 80 in 65 mph freeway..

Syringer

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It was about 9am in the morning on Friday, I was in the car pool lane (far left lane), while cars in the other lanes where traffic was moderate were going around 70..and the roads dry and the sun out making for ideal driving conditions..and with literally not a car in sight in front of me, I was pulled over by a CHP officer was in the far right lane who apparently pulled out and paced me for a few seconds and ticketed me.

Anyone here ever try the the ticketassassin.com method for fighting tickets for freeway tickets? I've gotten 3 in the past, 2 for speeding..have fought all three and won using the mail-in method, but the two speeding ones were for violating the basic speed limit, while this maximum speed one seems harder to fight. It seems like it's worth a try if I'm going to be granted traffic school anyway, but was just wondering what others' success were like.

And to all those who feel obligated to point out that blah blah I was speeding and should own up to it, I certainly do, and agree I was violating the law as stated..so make your post and move on.
 

natto fire

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LOL, nice disclaimer at the end. Haven't tried the site, but have probably heard of some of the methods mentioned there :p

Anyways, blah blah blah you were speeding, etc., etc. ;)
 

Nebor

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Bwahaha, here in Dallas, TX only DART (Dallas Area Rapid Transit) police officers issues tickets in the HOV (high occupancy vehicle) lane, and they don't issue tickets anywhere else. A Dallas Police officer doesn't give a damn how fast you're going as long as you're in the HOV lane, that's not his problem. :D
 

rh71

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maybe the cop's gun wasn't calibrated correctly (or recently)... or he wasn't trained to use it properly... things like that can be a b!tch in court. ;)

Oh and uhh... nice avatar..
 

yhelothar

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I got a municipal parking ticket once for parking on the curb from 2AM-4AM. The ticket was timed at 4:06AM. So I just wrote in a letter saying I just parked there 5 minutes ago, and he gave me the ticket. I won.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: rh71
maybe the cop's gun wasn't calibrated correctly (or recently)... or he wasn't trained to use it properly... things like that can be a b!tch in court. ;)

Oh and uhh... nice avatar..

I thought CHP was like, the uber highway patrol? That doesn't make mistakes like that? Remember that great website w/ the CHP song? I wanna hear that now. Link?
 

Syringer

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Originally posted by: rh71
maybe the cop's gun wasn't calibrated correctly (or recently)... or he wasn't trained to use it properly... things like that can be a b!tch in court. ;)

Oh and uhh... nice avatar..

He paced my speed, so there was no gun involved..

However I think I read somewhere a while back about how a cop needs to pace you for a certain amount of time before he can "legally" determine your speed..

And ha, yeah the avatar is kind of ironic isn't it.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: rh71
maybe the cop's gun wasn't calibrated correctly (or recently)... or he wasn't trained to use it properly... things like that can be a b!tch in court. ;)

Oh and uhh... nice avatar..

He paced my speed, so there was no gun involved..

However I think I read somewhere a while back about how a cop needs to pace you for a certain amount of time before he can "legally" determine your speed..

And ha, yeah the avatar is kind of ironic isn't it.
I've been pulled over for a 77 in a 65 before... he paced me for a good mile... but when he paced me, I was already doing the limit for him... I don't know why pacing would have anything to do with it. I thought that was just the period when they checked your plates for other warrants, etc.
 

CrazyDe1

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You shoulda pulled the Tommy Boy but instead of bees you shoulda yelled spiders and ran out of the car...
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: rh71
maybe the cop's gun wasn't calibrated correctly (or recently)... or he wasn't trained to use it properly... things like that can be a b!tch in court. ;)

Oh and uhh... nice avatar..

He paced my speed, so there was no gun involved..

However I think I read somewhere a while back about how a cop needs to pace you for a certain amount of time before he can "legally" determine your speed..

And ha, yeah the avatar is kind of ironic isn't it.

Someone posted a great trick to use in court against the "pacing." You ask him how he was able to determine your speed, he says he's trained to judge speed visually. Then you ask him to determine the speed of a quarter as you drop it. You of course know the speed by calculating the acceleration due to gravity beforehand (I think all the math is in the other thread.) Likely he'll say something like 4 miles an hour, but as I recall, it's nowhere close to that. If he says it takes time to judge, ask him how many times you need to drop the quarter. :thumbsup:
 

DurocShark

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Why the hell can't people just pay their fvcking tickets? I mean really:

You were speeding.
You got caught.

What else is there?

Sorry, but it annoys the hell out of me when people try to weasel their way out of accepting responsibility for their actions. Especially with such simple things. :|
 

PowerMac4Ever

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: rh71
maybe the cop's gun wasn't calibrated correctly (or recently)... or he wasn't trained to use it properly... things like that can be a b!tch in court. ;)

Oh and uhh... nice avatar..

He paced my speed, so there was no gun involved..

However I think I read somewhere a while back about how a cop needs to pace you for a certain amount of time before he can "legally" determine your speed..

And ha, yeah the avatar is kind of ironic isn't it.

Someone posted a great trick to use in court against the "pacing." You ask him how he was able to determine your speed, he says he's trained to judge speed visually. Then you ask him to determine the speed of a quarter as you drop it. You of course know the speed by calculating the acceleration due to gravity beforehand (I think all the math is in the other thread.) Likely he'll say something like 4 miles an hour, but as I recall, it's nowhere close to that. If he says it takes time to judge, ask him how many times you need to drop the quarter. :thumbsup:
Worst advice ever... seriously...
 

TheLonelyPhoenix

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If you break the speed limit by 5, that's one thing. By 15, that's quite another. You're out of the margin of error of a radar gun or pacing discrepency... I've never heard of anyone overturning a ticket that exceeded the speed limit by more than 8-9 MPH.
 

CrazyDe1

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: rh71
maybe the cop's gun wasn't calibrated correctly (or recently)... or he wasn't trained to use it properly... things like that can be a b!tch in court. ;)

Oh and uhh... nice avatar..

He paced my speed, so there was no gun involved..

However I think I read somewhere a while back about how a cop needs to pace you for a certain amount of time before he can "legally" determine your speed..

And ha, yeah the avatar is kind of ironic isn't it.

Someone posted a great trick to use in court against the "pacing." You ask him how he was able to determine your speed, he says he's trained to judge speed visually. Then you ask him to determine the speed of a quarter as you drop it. You of course know the speed by calculating the acceleration due to gravity beforehand (I think all the math is in the other thread.) Likely he'll say something like 4 miles an hour, but as I recall, it's nowhere close to that. If he says it takes time to judge, ask him how many times you need to drop the quarter. :thumbsup:

Pacing isn't visually estimating...they're different things.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: rh71
maybe the cop's gun wasn't calibrated correctly (or recently)... or he wasn't trained to use it properly... things like that can be a b!tch in court. ;)

Oh and uhh... nice avatar..

He paced my speed, so there was no gun involved..

However I think I read somewhere a while back about how a cop needs to pace you for a certain amount of time before he can "legally" determine your speed..

And ha, yeah the avatar is kind of ironic isn't it.

Someone posted a great trick to use in court against the "pacing." You ask him how he was able to determine your speed, he says he's trained to judge speed visually. Then you ask him to determine the speed of a quarter as you drop it. You of course know the speed by calculating the acceleration due to gravity beforehand (I think all the math is in the other thread.) Likely he'll say something like 4 miles an hour, but as I recall, it's nowhere close to that. If he says it takes time to judge, ask him how many times you need to drop the quarter. :thumbsup:
Worst advice ever... seriously...

I think it's great in a Perry Mason kinda way.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: CrazyDe1
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: rh71
maybe the cop's gun wasn't calibrated correctly (or recently)... or he wasn't trained to use it properly... things like that can be a b!tch in court. ;)

Oh and uhh... nice avatar..

He paced my speed, so there was no gun involved..

However I think I read somewhere a while back about how a cop needs to pace you for a certain amount of time before he can "legally" determine your speed..

And ha, yeah the avatar is kind of ironic isn't it.

Someone posted a great trick to use in court against the "pacing." You ask him how he was able to determine your speed, he says he's trained to judge speed visually. Then you ask him to determine the speed of a quarter as you drop it. You of course know the speed by calculating the acceleration due to gravity beforehand (I think all the math is in the other thread.) Likely he'll say something like 4 miles an hour, but as I recall, it's nowhere close to that. If he says it takes time to judge, ask him how many times you need to drop the quarter. :thumbsup:

Pacing isn't visually estimating...they're different things.

Throw the quarter and have him run along behind it. :p
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: CrazyDe1
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: rh71
maybe the cop's gun wasn't calibrated correctly (or recently)... or he wasn't trained to use it properly... things like that can be a b!tch in court. ;)

Oh and uhh... nice avatar..

He paced my speed, so there was no gun involved..

However I think I read somewhere a while back about how a cop needs to pace you for a certain amount of time before he can "legally" determine your speed..

And ha, yeah the avatar is kind of ironic isn't it.

Someone posted a great trick to use in court against the "pacing." You ask him how he was able to determine your speed, he says he's trained to judge speed visually. Then you ask him to determine the speed of a quarter as you drop it. You of course know the speed by calculating the acceleration due to gravity beforehand (I think all the math is in the other thread.) Likely he'll say something like 4 miles an hour, but as I recall, it's nowhere close to that. If he says it takes time to judge, ask him how many times you need to drop the quarter. :thumbsup:

Pacing isn't visually estimating...they're different things.

Not to mention a person can be an expert at gauging very slow speeds, and suck at gauging very high speeds, and vice versa. That's some pretty bad advice you're giving because it's not even relevant.
 

ElFenix

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spedometers are inaccurate.
perhaps you should consider deferred adjudication.
if you can take that then you can basically ignore the ticket.
definitely take it if you can.
even if you can't, can you get a defensive driving dismisal?
regardless, you're out some cash.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: CrazyDe1
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: rh71
maybe the cop's gun wasn't calibrated correctly (or recently)... or he wasn't trained to use it properly... things like that can be a b!tch in court. ;)

Oh and uhh... nice avatar..

He paced my speed, so there was no gun involved..

However I think I read somewhere a while back about how a cop needs to pace you for a certain amount of time before he can "legally" determine your speed..

And ha, yeah the avatar is kind of ironic isn't it.

Someone posted a great trick to use in court against the "pacing." You ask him how he was able to determine your speed, he says he's trained to judge speed visually. Then you ask him to determine the speed of a quarter as you drop it. You of course know the speed by calculating the acceleration due to gravity beforehand (I think all the math is in the other thread.) Likely he'll say something like 4 miles an hour, but as I recall, it's nowhere close to that. If he says it takes time to judge, ask him how many times you need to drop the quarter. :thumbsup:

Pacing isn't visually estimating...they're different things.

Not to mention a person can be an expert at gauging very slow speeds, and suck at gauging very high speeds, and vice versa. That's some pretty bad advice you're giving because it's not even relevant.

You know what, you're not relevant. :p

I already said it's Perry Mason material, alright?
 

ttown

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Originally posted by: CrazyDe1
You shoulda pulled the Tommy Boy but instead of bees you shoulda yelled spiders and ran out of the car...
lol

What ever happened to the spider girl? I missed the end of the story.
 

cirthix

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whos willing to bet that SYRINGER wont finish this story, just like he never finished the SPYDER story
 

LifeStealer

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Say you had a new set of tires put on that were smaller than your old set. Spedometers are calibrated to the tire size specified by the car maker, if you rezise your tires you're supposed to get your spedometer adjusted or have something installed on your tire to have it adjust to the spedometer.