ti4200/4600

[adams828]

i've been looking at cards to "hold me over" until new games (hl2, doom3, etc) and new-gen cards. i've read that these cards still provide good framerates withough aa/ff enabled.. can anyone with these cards verfiy? i'd be willing to sacrifice aa/ff to have playable rates and not spend so much $ (newegg has a 64mb ti4200 for $100)

 

[nick1985]

you can easily find 128 meg 4200's for 100 bucks if you look around. most new 4200's will hit 4600 speeds.

 

[modedepe]

My ti4200 is fine for the games I play right now. And don't bother getting a ti4600 unless you get it for cheap, as most ti4200's will get close to those speeds. Btw, $100 for a 64mb ti4200 is wayyy high. Somebody had a link for a 128mb one for $90 or something

edit: link

 

[adams828]

excellent, thanks

 

[RussianSensation]

I am also looking to get 4200 as adams828 but i cant decide which one.
Do you guys know if this leadtek card in the link has 128mb ram at 444mhz or 512mhz?

Also i searched around for 4200 on pricewatch i found these:

LEADTEK GeFORCE4 TI4200 4X AGP 64MB OEM - $70
MSI-8879-G4Ti4200-T64 - $73.95
Gainward GeForce4 4200 64mb PowerPack! Ultra/650 - $79
haintech nVIDIA GeForce4 Ti4200 8x (64 MB DDR) (Retail) - $82

Now i have 2.6@3.06 and Radeon 8500 that i can probably sell for $40 US and get one of these for extra $40 you guys think its worth it? I mean i'd probably get a 20-30% increase in games without AA/AF for mere $40/50 extra.

Now i think all these are 250/512 mhz and I have no idea which one is a decent overclocker I tried to find some reviews on the net for some of them and Gainward hit 285/560 stable, MSI did 292/586, Leadteck somewhere I found 282/558 and some other website 302/620. Any of these you would recommend?

 

[modedepe]

The 128mb ti4200's with agp8x are clocked higher, with the ram at 513mhz. All 64mb ti4200's have 513mhz ram.

 

[Gstanfor]

Try and find yourself an Asus V9280S2-TVD-128
http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?prdid=00006198

Priced like a 4200, performs better than a 4400 out of the box, and is virtually guaranteed to do 4600 speeds or better (mine is clocked at 320/680 not a problem). VIVO thrown in for good measure, what more could you want?

You can use moderate 2x AA/QCX AA & 2x aniso with this card and the 53.03 drivers pretty comfortably in most games between 1152x864 and 1280x960.

 

[Shinei]

Gstanfor: That Ti4200 you linked is $260... For that much money you'd be better off with an FX5900NU for $225 from eVGA or Albatron. :/

 

[modedepe]

Originally posted by: Shinei
Gstanfor: That Ti4200 you linked is $260... For that much money you'd be better off with an FX5900NU for $225 from eVGA or Albatron. :/

It's in aus

 

[Gstanfor]

Yes, Australian pricing.

Down here the only really affordable GF-FX's are the 5700's and the 5600's. I don't like the fact that these have only one TMU per pixel pipe and I'm not keen on "Brilinear" replacing Trilinear filtering either (If Brilinear were to replace Bilinear I would not mind at all).

We'll see what next year and NV40 brings. For now I'll stick with tried and true tech.

 

[Pudgygiant]

I'd recommend Asus if you can get one with DEFINITE samsung RAM chips as those FLY on OC's, or visiontek ti4600 cards. I hit 335/750 easy, stock air cooling, on my vt ti4600.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: Pudgygiant
I'd recommend Asus if you can get one with DEFINITE samsung RAM chips as those FLY on OC's, or visiontek ti4600 cards. I hit 335/750 easy, stock air cooling, on my vt ti4600.

dayam...

 

[Rogodin2]

If you can find a 9800nonpro you'd be better off-or a 9600xt.

My air cooled 9800np can do 450/822 before artifacting with a stock cooler.

rogo

 

[RussianSensation]

Yeah but the exchange rate between an australian dollar and canadian dollar for me is 1.02 to 1.00 that means its about 254 Cdn for me thats pretty steep for a stop gap card to hold me off.

Also we are talking about $70-80 Geforce 4 cards so i cant buy a 9600XT or a 9800np since they are about 160US and 220 respectively

The only reason i decided to upgrade is because i will sell my radeon 8500 for 40 so geforce 4 will cost me 40 extra for like 20% improvement in intensive games.

Whereas with 9600pro/xt/9700pro, etc. we are looking at at least 100+ extra US. I think the current fastest cards are at their limit running the latest intensive games like Splinter Cell, Need for Speed underground, Call of Duty at 1600x1200 with 4AA/8AF and thats why i am waiting for the new generation in spring and I have already put away $100US away towards that new card. The problem is that when they come out in march or april i am gonna hae to wait 2 months until they drop a bit to 250-300US then i'd get them and basically if this takes me 6-8 months i cant think of anything to hold me off better for cheap than a geforce4 4200 unless u guys think i should sell the radeon 8500 and put those 40 bucks towards the new card right before i buy it.

 

[EarthwormJim]

Actually with the newer drivers the 8500 128mb and 4600 are basically dead even. I would not recomend spending even $40 for a near non-existant gain in performance, unless of course you have a 64mb 8500, then by all means get a 4600/4400/4200. In some games the 4600 wins, in others the 8500 wins. Hardocp has an excelent review of the Asus 9800xt that compares it to a 4600 and a 8500. http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTUy

 

[MichaelZ]

if ur from aus, avoid ASUS V9280 VS (video suite Ti4200) they SUCK!

its not the performance but the reliability. i've got it... RMA'd 3 times cause of dodgy fan. right now i have given up and just took off the big ass heatsink and replaced with it TT G4 cooler. AVOID that card!

 

[Gstanfor]

The V9280 VS is based off of a normal (smaller, less pcb layers) 4200 PCB. The V9280S2-TVD-128 is based off of a 4600 PCB it is larger and has more layers which allows for more speed.

The only thing the two cards have in common is the V9280 portion of their names.

 

[CraigRT]

4200 is a great budget card, should hold you over fine for now.

 

[Fern]

I've got a Ti 4200 (Abit Siluro OTES) 64mb. I get good frame rates and hardily recommend it. I think it's one of the best cards to get to hold you over till next year when DoomIII comes out. That's when I plan to upgrade mine. Good Luck

 

[adams828]

why does it seem like all the ti4200s from reliable retailers are still relatively expensive? :frown:

 

[Rogodin2]

My old 8500 with pre cats was just as good a card as my msi g4ti4400 and gainward ti4200 (all three were overclocked but with my 8500 running 325/300-it was an easy choice-I sold the G4s).

I like to use aa and af and with these enabled the G4s Choked.

rogo