Three women plunge into river. They called a friend BEFORE calling 911.

Viper GTS

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While I feel bad for them, that was really fvcking stupid.

In all likelihood though it probably wouldn't have saved them.

They'd have been dead long before a rescue crew got there.

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kaymin

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Not that i've ever been in an accident of that type, but what kept them from opening the windows or door to free themselves? The pressure of the water prevented that?
 

Hammer

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
While I feel bad for them, that was really fvcking stupid.

In all likelihood though it probably wouldn't have saved them.

They'd have been dead long before a rescue crew got there.

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yeah, i don't think it would have made a difference either. i'm guessing they panicked pretty bad and were unable to kick out the rear window.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: kaymin
Not that i've ever been in an accident of that type, but what kept them from opening the windows or door to free themselves? The pressure of the water prevented that?

Good question. Power windows would explain the windows but they should have been able to open the doors once it was submerged. Unless there was damage to the car which kept them from opening them.
 

RMSistight

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Originally posted by: kaymin
Not that i've ever been in an accident of that type, but what kept them from opening the windows or door to free themselves? The pressure of the water prevented that?

I don't know about the door but in most vehicles today the windows are electronically controlled.
 

Descartes

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"I tried and I tried and I tried, but I couldn't do it," Miranda said. "They were conscious. They were screaming, screaming 'Help me, help me!"'

Wow, I would have a really hard time with that.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: RMSistight
If they had a centerpunch they would have been able to break the glass and swim out.

Yeah, but can you guess how many people actually keep those in their car? I know it's been recommended for scenarios such as these, but I've never heard of anyone actually owning one.
 

Actaeon

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Originally posted by: kaymin
Not that i've ever been in an accident of that type, but what kept them from opening the windows or door to free themselves? The pressure of the water prevented that?

I can assume the door had so much pressure, it would be impossible to push open with just our bare strength.

Well, if it was electrical windows, I can imagine it would short circuit and not work. Not sure about manual crank windows though.
 

RMSistight

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Originally posted by: Descartes
"I tried and I tried and I tried, but I couldn't do it," Miranda said. "They were conscious. They were screaming, screaming 'Help me, help me!"'

Wow, I would have a really hard time with that.

I think that's one of the worst feelings in the world...to know you were there to help but there was absolutely nothing you could do but watch...I cringe about it.
 

faenix

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Originally posted by: Descartes
"I tried and I tried and I tried, but I couldn't do it," Miranda said. "They were conscious. They were screaming, screaming 'Help me, help me!"'

Wow, I would have a really hard time with that.

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daniel1113

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I hope everyone that reads this will go out and purchase a centerpunch to keep in the glove compartment. You never know...
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: kaymin
Not that i've ever been in an accident of that type, but what kept them from opening the windows or door to free themselves? The pressure of the water prevented that?

Power windows might not work very well when your car is submerged. I know you can roll down crnk windows underwater w/o a problem (they did it as a Fear Factor stunt), but I doubt that Jeep had crank windows.

Also, it'd be difficult for me (200lb man) to open a car door underwater, even if the pressure was equal on both sides (meaning the car was already full of water). There's no way I could do it if the water was only outside the door, and there's no way a woman with half my strength could do it.
 

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: RMSistight
If they had a centerpunch they would have been able to break the glass and swim out.

Yeah, but can you guess how many people actually keep those in their car? I know it's been recommended for scenarios such as these, but I've never heard of anyone actually owning one.

Gotta prepare for the worst right? I'm always a "just in case" person. But you can't prepare for everything...-_-
 

daniel1113

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Originally posted by: Actaeon
I can assume the door had so much pressure, it would be impossible to push open with just our bare strength.

From what I've read, opening a door that is completely submerged in water shouldn't be too difficult, because the pressure on both sides of the door due to the water will be equal. But then again, I've never been in that situation.
 

Demon-Xanth

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Here's what you do:
#1: TRY the windows. Even covered with water, there's a fairly good chance electric windows will still operate.
#2: If that fails, unbuckle your seatbelt and make sure there's nothing tethering you in.
#3: Wait until pressure equalizes
#4: Open door and get out
 

RMSistight

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Originally posted by: daniel1113
I hope everyone that reads this will go out and purchase a centerpunch to keep in the glove compartment. You never know...

They don't cost much either....$10-$15.
 

rh71

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from what I've heard, it's best to just wait until both sides of the door are submerged, then you can open the door... hell... use your legs... as they are stronger.

I can't swim too well and I've never been completely submerged trying to swim upward, so who knows what would've happened to me regardless of whether I was able to get out of the car or not.

BTW, is it completely impossible to watertight a car on the inside ? I know there are open vents, but maybe there can be some kind of one-time sensor that just locksdown everything. Maybe manufacturers can consider this...