Threadripper 2920x vs the Ryzen 2700x

[Batmeat]

I still don’t understand why threadripper isn’t good for gaming, specifically the 2920x.

comparison

Other than socket type, more pci express lanes, and lower turbo on all cores. I don’t see any difference. Turbo all cores for me will be Irrelevant. I’m planning on a custom water cooled set up and overclocking anyway.

 

[wahdangun]

Because some games will break if there are more than 16 thread and not numa aware.

 

[SPBHM]

you have to look at TR as somewhat similar to a dual CPU setup, there are latency issues with using 2 separate dies which is not the case for the Ryzen (it still have something of a problem with having 2 CCXs but since they are on the same physical piece the connection seems to be faster or low latency enough) and so on.

 

[VirtualLarry]

you have to look at TR as somewhat similar to a dual CPU setup, there are latency issues with using 2 separate dies which is not the case for the Ryzen (it still have something of a problem with having 2 CCXs but since they are on the same physical piece the connection seems to be faster or low latency enough) and so on.

Could that alone be the primary reason that Sandy Bridge and Nehalem were such an advance for gaming over the Core2Quad, which were MCM'ed dual-core dies under the heatspreader?

 

[epsilon84]

Could that alone be the primary reason that Sandy Bridge and Nehalem were such an advance for gaming over the Core2Quad, which were MCM'ed dual-core dies under the heatspreader?

Part of the reason, definitely. And going even further back, why the Athlon 64 was so strong at gaming - it was the first CPU to have an IMC (at least from Intel and AMD)

Latency kills gaming performance, basically.

 

[beginner99]

I still don’t understand why threadripper isn’t good for gaming, specifically the 2920x.

comparison

Other than socket type, more pci express lanes, and lower turbo on all cores. I don’t see any difference. Turbo all cores for me will be Irrelevant. I’m planning on a custom water cooled set up and overclocking anyway.

As other have said because it is 2 dies connected via MCM there are some drawbacks and those manifest themselves very much in gaming. Best case scenario is you get same performance as a 2700x but you will not be getting any better performance so why pay more?

Only reason to get a threadripper is if next to gaming you do a lot of rendering, cpu transcoding and similar heavily multi threaded tasks. Else it is a waste of money. If you have the money, the best cpu for gaming is 8700k for now and the the soon to be released i9 9900k. Both easily beat any threadripper at gaming. For gaming only threadripper is a waste of money.

 

[epsilon84]

As other have said because it is 2 dies connected via MCM there are some drawbacks and those manifest themselves very much in gaming. Bets case scenario is you get same performance as a 2700x but you will not getting any better so why pay more?

Only reason to get a threadripper if next to gaming you do a lot of rendering, cpu transcoding and similar heavily multi threaded tasks. Else it is a waste of money. If you have the money, the best for gaming is 8700k for now and the the soon to be released i9 9900k. Both easily beat any threadripper at gaming. For gaming only threadripper is a waste of money.

Yeah, if gaming is anywhere near high on your list of priorities then TR isn't the answer, even if you play heavily multi-threaded titles - the latency penalty is just too high with the MCM type setup. The upcoming 9900K is probably the best compromise between gaming and decent MT performance, you'll basically get near 2920X MT performance and obviously top gaming performance. The 2700X wouldn't be a bad lower cost option too if you want to stay on the Zen platform.

 

[NTMBK]

Could that alone be the primary reason that Sandy Bridge and Nehalem were such an advance for gaming over the Core2Quad, which were MCM'ed dual-core dies under the heatspreader?

Nehalem also integrated the memory controller into the CPU, which reduced memory latency. Same reason AMD saw such a big boost from the Athlon 64.

 

[TheGiant]

As other have said because it is 2 dies connected via MCM there are some drawbacks and those manifest themselves very much in gaming. Best case scenario is you get same performance as a 2700x but you will not be getting any better performance so why pay more?

Only reason to get a threadripper is if next to gaming you do a lot of rendering, cpu transcoding and similar heavily multi threaded tasks. Else it is a waste of money. If you have the money, the best cpu for gaming is 8700k for now and the the soon to be released i9 9900k. Both easily beat any threadripper at gaming. For gaming only threadripper is a waste of money.

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[guskline]

Very happy with my 2700x/GTX1080 combo listed below.

 

[Batmeat]

Now I understand regarding the interconnect between dies. My build is going to be for gaming, streaming vids from a nas, and some video editing. Will likely stay away from TR and look at a 2700x or I9.