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Thread to list Democratic states disenfranchising white voters

HomerJS

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We all know everything nowadays is #bothsides. Republicans in states across the country are enacting new voter laws that disproportionately disenfranchise people of color like in Georgia where exact match puts white ballots on hold by 2.5%, minority votes on hold by 20-30%.

Since both sides are guilty of everything here is the place you can list states that are run by Democrats that are changing voting rules which disproportionately effect white people. I'm sure the Democrats are up to the same shananigans.
 

HomerJS

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No one is being disenfranchised on either side or any side
Sure that's why North Dakota changed the law that requires street addresses knowing that native Americans who live on reservations don't have them.

Georgia enacted an exact match policy knowing only 2.5% of white ballots are being rejected and 20-30% of minority ballots are.

Other states have been closing polling places in predominately black districts.

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senseamp

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The intellectual basis for conservatism has been exposed as a fraud, trickle down isn't selling, so all the corporatists have left is to peddle racism, rig the courts, steal elections outright, and ramp up "law and order" police state to keep those who are on to their tactics suppressed.
 
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Pohemi420

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Damnit...thanks a lot, HomerJS.

Now I have to replace my Sarcasmeter™.

Also...
No one is being disenfranchised on either side or any side
Nothing like turning a blind eye. It's all molehills-to-mountains until it's Democrats pulling the stunts, of course.
 

SlowSpyder

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Now white people are making it hard for minorities to vote? Geezus fugging kryst. Always, ALWAYS an excuse and a finger to point.
 

woolfe9998

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He also conveniently ignores the fact that it isn't only Republicans that are affected in these election systems. But hey, always the victim, right?
And the fact that no republican who is unable to take at least second place in a primary against two democrats who are splitting the dem vote could possibly have the slightest chance of winning a general election. Won't stop him from whining about it though, over and over again.
 
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Jhhnn

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Now white people are making it hard for minorities to vote? Geezus fugging kryst. Always, ALWAYS an excuse and a finger to point.
That never happened, did it? Certainly not in the land of the great Lost Cause of the Confederacy....
 
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Now white people are making it hard for minorities to vote? Geezus fugging kryst. Always, ALWAYS an excuse and a finger to point.
They passed a law months before an election stating voters could only use ID that had a residential street address on it knowing the native population didn’t use residential street addresses. That means they have nothing with a residential street address. No ID, no bills. Nothing. This isn’t they didn’t want to put it on their ID. they don’t have a residential street address.

Then when it was pointed out that thousands of natives would be unable to vote they said tough shit and fought in court to keep it that way instead of allowing them to use their government issued photo ID they already had.

If that’s not white legislators making it hard for minorities to vote what is it?
 
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HomerJS

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Now white people are making it hard for minorities to vote? Geezus fugging kryst. Always, ALWAYS an excuse and a finger to point.
What da fuck do you call this? GOP attempted to enact new voter ID law claiming fraud but behind closed doors.....

BTW - courts have ruled, yes white people are disenfranchising minority voters. Need more evidence??
A federal appeals court decisively struck down North Carolina’s voter identification law on Friday, saying its provisions deliberately “target African-Americans with almost surgical precision” in an effort to depress black turnout at the polls.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/us/federal-appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolina-voter-id-provision.html
 
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Moonbeam

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The proof is in the "pudding" or the results, the results have been to shut out Republicans from statewide and Federal races. It's just a fancy way of gerrymandering California's votes to Democrats and that's how it works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonpartisan_blanket_primary

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/03/616552009/californias-unusual-primary-system
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-road-map-california-redistricting-supreme-court-20171008-story.html

Sorry to butt in on your altered reality.
 

Paratus

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We all know everything nowadays is #bothsides. Republicans in states across the country are enacting new voter laws that disproportionately disenfranchise people of color like in Georgia where exact match puts white ballots on hold by 2.5%, minority votes on hold by 20-30%.

Since both sides are guilty of everything here is the place you can list states that are run by Democrats that are changing voting rules which disproportionately effect white people. I'm sure the Democrats are up to the same shananigans.
Here you go OP. Georgia is using amateur handwriting analysis to reject voter registrations when someone thinks the signature doesn’t match the one on their ID

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/brian-kemp-voter-mismatch-georgia-stolen-election.html


Edit: oops that’s another republican disenfranchising minorities.

I know bothsidesdoit (TM). Why is it so hard to find democratic states disenfranchising anyone?
 
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Cozarkian

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First, Democrats don't have the same incentive to disenfranchise whites because they don't vote overwhelmingly Republican in the same manner as blacks vote Democratic.

Second, it isn't as easy to disenfranchise a group that is more spread out, tends to have IDs and street addresses and puts more care and effort into registering.

Based on the above two points, you shouldn't expect to find examples of what you are requesting - not because Democratic politicians don't want to manipulate elections in their favor, but because they aren't able to do so.

Nonetheless, the recent story of the Texas DNC attempting to register non citizens is an example of attempted election manipulation, so it does appear that both sides do engage in such behavior.
 

HomerJS

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First, Democrats don't have the same incentive to disenfranchise whites because they don't vote overwhelmingly Republican in the same manner as blacks vote Democratic.

Second, it isn't as easy to disenfranchise a group that is more spread out, tends to have IDs and street addresses and puts more care and effort into registering.

Based on the above two points, you shouldn't expect to find examples of what you are requesting - not because Democratic politicians don't want to manipulate elections in their favor, but because they aren't able to do so.

Nonetheless, the recent story of the Texas DNC attempting to register non citizens is an example of attempted election manipulation, so it does appear that both sides do engage in such behavior.
Any evidence Dems were able to find addresses of non-citizens and ask them to vote? How do you know what address houses a non-citizen?

BTW - The way you could do it is to close polling places that favors White Republicans. GOP did that for black Democrats. Did Dems try it?
 

Greenman

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We all know everything nowadays is #bothsides. Republicans in states across the country are enacting new voter laws that disproportionately disenfranchise people of color like in Georgia where exact match puts white ballots on hold by 2.5%, minority votes on hold by 20-30%.

Since both sides are guilty of everything here is the place you can list states that are run by Democrats that are changing voting rules which disproportionately effect white people. I'm sure the Democrats are up to the same shananigans.
How does that work, and why is it so disproportionately minorities that are affected?
When you say the ballots are "on hold" what does that mean exactly?
Google time...
 

Cozarkian

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Any evidence Dems were able to find addresses of non-citizens and ask them to vote? How do you know what address houses a non-citizen?

BTW - The way you could do it is to close polling places that favors White Republicans. GOP did that for black Democrats. Did Dems try it?
There is no reason to premark the citizenship box if you don't want to encourage illegal refistrations. A mailing targeted to a community where illegals are likely to live with that box premarked is sufficient evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt an intent to promote illegal registrations. In other words, they don't need specific adresses, although they could get that if they had access to certain records like census forms, tax records, school registrations, or have people working for the DNC that would know illegals.

I don't think white people in competitive districts arenl neatly divided into liberal and conservative neighborhoods, so I don't think that plan is as simple as you suggest.
 

Greenman

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How does that work, and why is it so disproportionately minorities that are affected?
When you say the ballots are "on hold" what does that mean exactly?
Google time...
I found the information, and the percentages are nothing close to what you have listed. The spread between minority's and whites appears to be less than 6%. I can't find anything suggesting that democrats are over represented in the held ballots.
I could be seeing biased information, do you have a link to the info you used?
 

HomerJS

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There is no reason to premark the citizenship box if you don't want to encourage illegal refistrations. A mailing targeted to a community where illegals are likely to live with that box premarked is sufficient evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt an intent to promote illegal registrations. In other words, they don't need specific adresses, although they could get that if they had access to certain records like census forms, tax records, school registrations, or have people working for the DNC that would know illegals.

I don't think white people in competitive districts arenl neatly divided into liberal and conservative neighborhoods, so I don't think that plan is as simple as you suggest.
You have evidence mailers were went to an area know to house illegals or are you speculating??

It can be simple to disenfranchise white Republicans. Just close some of their polling places. Republicans did that very thing to black Democrats.
 

Paratus

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You have evidence mailers were went to an area know to house illegals or are you speculating??

It can be simple to disenfranchise white Republicans. Just close some of their polling places. Republicans did that very thing to black Democrats.
How about claiming ‘due to state budget difficulties’ concealed weapons permits will only be available in person on the second Tuesday of the second month of each quarter. This guarantees long lines at state offices during November voting preventing 100s-1000s of white male conservatives from voting.
 
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Jhhnn

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First, Democrats don't have the same incentive to disenfranchise whites because they don't vote overwhelmingly Republican in the same manner as blacks vote Democratic.

Second, it isn't as easy to disenfranchise a group that is more spread out, tends to have IDs and street addresses and puts more care and effort into registering.

Based on the above two points, you shouldn't expect to find examples of what you are requesting - not because Democratic politicians don't want to manipulate elections in their favor, but because they aren't able to do so.

Nonetheless, the recent story of the Texas DNC attempting to register non citizens is an example of attempted election manipulation, so it does appear that both sides do engage in such behavior.
You admit that GOP efforts are an affront to the concept of honest democracy. Sprinkle in a little racial superiority. You then both sides the argument with "they would if they could" projection. Then we get the erroneous trope du jour about registration in Texas.

Small wonder you're so defensive given the bullshit the GOP pulls every two years.

There's an underlying philosophical difference between the Parties. Dems believe the greater the turnout the better their chances of winning. The GOP realizes that exactly the opposite is true for them. They've known it for a long time & act accordingly-

Paul Weyrich - Goo-Goo Syndrome (proper audio/video synchronization) - YouTube
 

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