Thread regarding Worldwide Reactions to the Death of OBL

Infohawk

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China:

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011/05/02/a-hero-lost-chinese-reactions-to-bin-laden-death/

In the hours immediately following U.S. President Barack Obama’s announcement that Osama bin Laden had been killed, Chinese Internet users appeared torn over how to react to the news.

While some celebrated, many others mourned the loss of a “hero.” Still others seized on the terrorist mastermind’s death as an opportunity to offer veiled comment on conditions at home.

Rumors of Mr. bin Laden’s death began to spread on Sina Weibo, China’s most active microblogging service, at least an hour before Mr. Obama’s speech, with messages of shock and disbelief giving way, in many cases, to expressions of regret at the Al Qaeda founder’s passing.

“Deeply mourning Bin Laden,” wrote Weibo user Jiajia Nuwu in comments echoed widely across the site. “Yet another anti-American hero is lost.”

“Is this real? Excellent!” wrote another. “Now the only terrorist left is the United States!”

Uhhh.. I guess all I have to say is fuck you people of China?

I'll add other stories if they're posted to the top.

Palestine:

Bin Laden death good for peace: Palestinian Authority

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/02/us-binladen-palestinians-idUSTRE7411NG20110502
 
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boomerang

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You mean even though we elected our first black President people worldwide still hate us? How could that be?
 

shortylickens

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And there are also a lot of people around the world who think the USA is truly as awful as OBL.

Yeah you gotta remember we have not been the worlds heroes since WW2.
But we've been acting like hot shit ever since even though we fuck things up all over the globe. Right now we may be feeling good but a lot of people who see us as villains now have another really big excuse to hate us.
 

Infohawk

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Right now we may be feeling good but a lot of people who see us as villains now have another really big excuse to hate us.

Well that's a really lame reason to hate us. I mean they're crying over a mass murderer. I'm fine with saying anyone who cries over OBL should be treated like an enemy. China's been asking for trade sanctions for some time.
 

shortylickens

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Well that's a really lame reason to hate us. I mean they're crying over a mass murderer. I'm fine with saying anyone who cries over OBL should be treated like an enemy. China's been asking for trade sanctions for some time.

So what?
Its pretty lame to love or hate a president simply because of his party affiliation, but thats been the norm since at least Nixon. Maybe even further back.

Human beings look for logical reasons to rationalize their emotions, but when they run out of logic they just stop making excuses and say fuck it I do what I want.
 

sMiLeYz

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Yeah there are people in this country that think Obama was born in Kenya, ignorance and resentment is everywhere. Especially when you're a world power, or the president of the United States.

I think the Chinese are still butthurt by us bombing their embassy in Kosovo years ago. There are people that are gonna hate on the US, but the majority probably don't give a shit either way.
 

Karl Agathon

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^^^I certainly dont give a damn, thats for sure! Dont misunderstand me though. in general, I would love to have great relations with many countries around the world. I just dont think America should go to far out of its way in kissing ass and trying to make people like us. Many of them sure as hell dont give a damn about us thats for sure.
 

wuliheron

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Uhhh.. I guess all I have to say is fuck you people of China?

I'll add other stories if they're posted to the top.


Its a bunch of third world wannabes who've only recently crawled out of the slime. Hell, the government just decided TV shows about time travel weren't a good idea and censors everything. Most of them still believe in witches and warlocks. If you're that easily offended I'd forget about leaving the country.
 
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I don't understand what there is to celebrate. I'm glad he's dead, but it's not as though we won some sort of a great victory. He pretty much kicked our asses in terms of the number of Americans his organization killed and the huge amount of economic and social damage it inflicted.

It reminds me of a first person shooter game where you get killed by someone 20 times and then you get lucky and kill him once and start talking it up. You had your ass kicked 20-1. Uh, yeah, "congrats".

I really don't think there's anything to celebrate. I think people should be glad that he's dead, but I don't see how that's worthy of a celebration when you consider the score. The public celebrations strike me as being silly.
 

glutenberg

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China:

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011/05/02/a-hero-lost-chinese-reactions-to-bin-laden-death/



Uhhh.. I guess all I have to say is fuck you people of China?

I'll add other stories if they're posted to the top.

Palestine:

Bin Laden death good for peace: Palestinian Authority

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/02/us-binladen-palestinians-idUSTRE7411NG20110502

Why would you hate the people of China when you selectively quote the article you posted.

Such responses are not entirely surprising in a country where more than a few people cheered the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and where Mr. bin Laden has sometimes been lauded for his willingness to take on the U.S.

Other Weibo commenters, however, appeared happy about Mr. bin Laden’s death, partly because the terrorist leader’s political agenda was said to pose a direct threat to security in China’s northwestern territory of Xinjiang.

“Thank you America for helping us,” wrote user Zhaoling Tongzi, noting Beijing’s assertion that that the Al Qaeda leader had supported a Muslim separatist movement in Xinjiang. “He wasn’t a friend. He was an enemy.”

On Twitter, which is blocked in China and thus tends to be used mostly by tech-savvy Chinese activists and intellectuals willing to circumvent China’s Internet censors, many users parsed news of Mr. bin Laden’s death through the lens of Chinese politics.

“Some countries use 10 years in pursuit of justice while others need 100 years just to discover the definition of justice,” Internet entrepreneur Isaac Mao, often described as China’s first blogger, wrote on his Twitter account in veiled reference to Beijing’s unwillingness to admit its past political mistakes.

In another oblique reference to Chinese politics, a number of Chinese Twitter users passed around a message reading: “Of the ten most evil people in the world, the U.S. has killed one. Now there are nine left.”

Nine is the number of members on the Chinese Communist Party’s ruling Politburo Standing Committee.

One Chinese Twitter user joked that Mr. bin Laden’s death meant the title of world’s top terrorist should go to Fang Binxing, the widely reviled “father” of China’s Great Firewall.

In a more analytical vein, former journalist and prominent political blogger Wen Yunchao argued on his Twitter account that the death of Mr. bin Laden would have consequences for China’s foreign policy.

“In the past, the U.S. needed China to join the fight against terrorism and so made more than a few concessions,” Mr. Wen wrote. “Now that bin Laden is dead, there’s one less constraint. The Free World now has more power to encircle China on the issue of universal values.”

Twitter didn’t have the monopoly on backhanded political commentary. Responding to another user’s repetition of a conspiracy theory popular on Sina that the U.S. long ago captured Mr. bin Laden and chose to announce it only now to manipulate the American electorate in Mr. Obama’s favor, a Weibo user going by the name Xiang Shijie wrote: “That makes sense. Americans appear to have thoroughly studied Chinese tactics.”
 

tvarad

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The Hamas and PA Response:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fgw-bin-laden-hamas-20110501,0,1332635.story


Ismail Haniyeh, prime minister of the Hamas government in the Gaza Strip, on Monday denounced the U.S. killing of Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.

"We condemn the assassination and the killing of an Arab holy warrior," Haniyeh told reporters, according to Reuters. "We regard this as a continuation of the American policy based on oppression and the shedding of Muslim and Arab blood."

His words were likely to do nothing for the reputation of the Islamist party, which popularized suicide bombings against Israel and is considered a terrorist organization by the United States and the European Union. Ironically, Hamas has battled more radical Islamic groups in the Gaza Strip in recent years.

For its part, Hamas' chief rival, the Palestinian Authority, which rules the West Bank, hailed Bin Laden's death.

"Getting rid of Bin Laden is good for the cause of peace worldwide, but what counts is to overcome the discourse and the methods -- the violent methods -- that were created and encouraged by Bin Laden and others in the world," Palestinian Authority spokesman Ghassan Khatib said, according to Reuters.
 

Siddhartha

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^^^I certainly dont give a damn, thats for sure! Dont misunderstand me though. in general, I would love to have great relations with many countries around the world. I just dont think America should go to far out of its way in kissing ass and trying to make people like us. Many of them sure as hell dont give a damn about us thats for sure.

I think the world would be happier if the US stopped invading countries and killing hundreds of thousands to millions of their citizens for their own good, giving them freedom, protecting them from communism, etc.
 

Schadenfroh

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Sounds like comments that would likely be made by certain AT Trolls.

Militant Islamic fundamentalists are no friends of the Chinese government. If militant fundamentalists succeeded in eradicating their primary target groups (Americans, Israelis, select Europeans), I am sure they would move on to taking out an atheist government that oppresses Islam within its borders. If Al-Qaeda had fewer immediate threats, Western China would be the next Chechnya.

There are internet trolls in China too.
Keep in mind the Communists pay their internet trolls.

"We condemn the assassination and the killing of an Arab holy warrior,"
Hamas is a terrorist organization and should be treated as such, sadly Palestinian terrorist organizations are sacred cows. Props to the statement by the Palestinian Authority.

I think the world would be happier if the US stopped invading countries and killing...
Yet they wanted us to help in Libya, screw the hypocrites. Let France or Britain be the world's policeman. We're broke.
 

Jaskalas

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And there are also a lot of people around the world who think the USA is truly as awful as OBL.

Worse. We start wars. We've lost more of our own men in those wars than OBL ever killed. Let alone the enemy and civilian losses. That has an effect on world opinion.
 

dainthomas

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The Hamas and PA Response:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fgw-bin-laden-hamas-20110501,0,1332635.story


Ismail Haniyeh, prime minister of the Hamas government in the Gaza Strip, on Monday denounced the U.S. killing of Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.

"We condemn the assassination and the killing of an Arab holy warrior," Haniyeh told reporters, according to Reuters. "We regard this as a continuation of the American policy based on oppression and the shedding of Muslim and Arab blood."

His words were likely to do nothing for the reputation of the Islamist party, which popularized suicide bombings against Israel and is considered a terrorist organization by the United States and the European Union. Ironically, Hamas has battled more radical Islamic groups in the Gaza Strip in recent years.

How are the Hamas apologists going to spin this statement? I predict Israel will be somehow blamed.
 

ShawnD1

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And there are also a lot of people around the world who think the USA is truly as awful as OBL.

If you didn't know what China was and all you had to go on was our P&N forum, you'd swear China was the worst thing ever in the history of the world.

China and USA both have their fair share of paranoid assholes
 

Hayabusa Rider

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If you didn't know what China was and all you had to go on was our P&N forum, you'd swear China was the worst thing ever in the history of the world.

China and USA both have their fair share of paranoid assholes

As far as killing it's own people I can't think of any nation which has a worse record. If they hadn't learned of the world from Minitrue I might be more critical of the Chinese people. Fact is it's hard to if we're reading what people wrote or if it's s government plant.
 

ShawnD1

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As far as killing it's own people I can't think of any nation which has a worse record.

If China had enough money (and desire) to feed prisoners for 30 years instead of killing them, China would look remarkably similar to the US.
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China has the world's highest execution rate. USA is the world's largest prison state in terms of raw numbers as well as per capita.
 

yllus

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Fars News out of Iran proposes an alternative explanation of everything that happened on Sunday night:

TEHRAN (FNA)- The US has killed the Al-Qaeda leader, Osama Bin Laden, in a bid to prevent any possible leakage of intelligence and information about the US-Al-Qaeda joint terrorist operations, a senior Iranian legislator underscored on Monday.

"The West was fully satisfied with bin Laden's performance during the past years and today… it was obliged to kill him to prevent possible leakage of the priceless intelligence that he had," member of the parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Javad Jahangirzadeh told FNA on Monday.

He mentioned that the West seeks to rebuild its damaged face in the international community, and reiterated that Bin Laden's survival could endanger the interests of the western countries and disclose their past and future clandestine operations.

Jahangirzadeh warned the world countries that the West has hatched a new plot to find new pretexts for invading and occupying the Muslim countries.

Obama announced on Sunday that bin Laden was killed in a US operation in Pakistan.

Obama said he had directed helicopter-borne US armed forces to launch an attack against a heavily fortified compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan on Sunday acting on a lead that first emerged last August.

"A small team of Americans… killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body," Obama said.

Senior US officials said that in addition to bin Laden, three adult males died in the raid, two who were believed to be couriers for the Al-Qaeda leader, and one who was said to be one of his adult sons.

One woman who was being used as a human shield was also killed, the officials said.