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Thoughts on Ubuntu Build

PCHobbiest

Junior Member
1. Web surfing, light programming, testing software, essentially getting my self familiar with Ubuntu (or any Linux OS)

2. $600 max excluding shipping/tax.

3. United States

4. pcpartpicker, mostly likely buying from multiple vendors to keep the cost down.

5. No brand preference as long as it's reliable


7. Everything will be running stock

8. 1080p

9. 2-3 weeks max

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts, open to recommendations. KB/M will be bought locally.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/PCH/saved/4LAT - Edited to reflect recommended changes. $4 to spare lol

Thanks in advance!

PCHobbiest
 
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Have you tried it with your current setup? If so, what was the result? An A10-5800 aught to be quite decent, save maybe for some minor video issues.
 
At the budget you proposed, and considering the OS of choice, why not Intel:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3P062
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3P062/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3P062/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($182.98 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($52.05 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $547.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-22 16:57 EDT-0400)
 
Well of course Intel. Not only that, but don't put a poor spinner in it. An M500 240GB is $105 at Amazon.
 
Will definitely look into the recommendations. I went with the AMD APU series cause of the built in decent gpu..intel seems to favor the Intel HDxxxx which ive had horrid luck with. If a little bit over i'm not to worried as long as it's reliable.

Thanks mvbighead and Cerb.

Swap the 1TB HDD for the M500 240GB SSD? How much faster does Linux boot on an SSD compared to the HDD? I had Ubuntu on my laptop once but had to remove it...boot to considerably longer than a windows boot.
 
Will definitely look into the recommendations. I went with the AMD APU series cause of the built in decent gpu..intel seems to favor the Intel HDxxxx which ive had horrid luck with. If a little bit over i'm not to worried as long as it's reliable.

Thanks mvbighead and Cerb.

Swap the 1TB HDD for the M500 240GB SSD? How much faster does Linux boot on an SSD compared to the HDD? I had Ubuntu on my laptop once but had to remove it...boot to considerably longer than a windows boot.

SSD should provide considerable improvement for any OS.

As for the built in APUs, AMD might have that bit going for them, but you're probably better off just buying a $30-50 GPU if you need more than the Intel HD has to offer.
 
If you're just doing text editing, running basic code/scripting, and trying to familiarize yourself with an OS, just run a VM on your current rig.
 
If you're just doing text editing, running basic code/scripting, and trying to familiarize yourself with an OS, just run a VM on your current rig.


I tried. for some reason my toshiba laptop does like it. Dual booting sadly isn't even possible on my laptop. Idk if it's win 8.1 or the BIOS that's the issue. I'm in college and going to be taking a Linux class that use Ubuntu, but I want to be able to get familiar with it out side of school too. I don't mind building a system for it.
Thanks though Dave.

PCHobbiest
 
Just something else to consider... spending the extra money is nice just to get something better, but if you don't have any plans to put it to work, you may want to consider something far less expensive:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3P6A3
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3P6A3/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3P6A3/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Pentium G3220 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($56.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY XLR8 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($59.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($119.99 Newegg)
Total: $403.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-22 20:06 EDT-0400)

Quality wise, the parts are roughly the same, and it will still be a very snappy rig with an SSD. That all depends on your intended purpose, but this rig here would give you more than enough for what you're looking for. And quite a bit of spare cash for a better GPU should you decide to throw some games on there (I believe the game market is beginning to grow in the Ubuntu realm).
 
I tried. for some reason my toshiba laptop does like it. Dual booting sadly isn't even possible on my laptop. Idk if it's win 8.1 or the BIOS that's the issue. I'm in college and going to be taking a Linux class that use Ubuntu, but I want to be able to get familiar with it out side of school too. I don't mind building a system for it.
Thanks though Dave.

PCHobbiest

does your CPU support hardware accelerated virtualization?
 
At the budget you proposed, and considering the OS of choice, why not Intel:

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($182.98 @ Best Buy)

It's Linux. He doesn't need an i5 to sit there at the CLI typing apt-get.

OP, just pick up a P4 from the side of the road.
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Swap the 1TB HDD for the M500 240GB SSD? How much faster does Linux boot on an SSD compared to the HDD? I had Ubuntu on my laptop once but had to remove it...boot to considerably longer than a windows boot.
Fast, but HDD boot is mostly slow due to being Ubuntu. An SSD is going to be much faster at much more, as well, as Linux doesn't have big DBs like the Registry (well, Gnome does, poor thing), but lots of little files scattered everywhere. Take the lack of a Windows license to be paid for as an excuse to go SSD. Installing packages is blazing fast with an SSD, as is removing them, as is searching files, and so on. A full-drive search of the contents of every file for some pattern is even viable, with an SSD.

PCHobbiest said:
Will definitely look into the recommendations. I went with the AMD APU series cause of the built in decent gpu..intel seems to favor the Intel HDxxxx which ive had horrid luck with. If a little bit over i'm not to worried as long as it's reliable.
Haswell's IGP is a whole different thing. I mean, OK, it's IGP, but it works, and well, including in Windows. In Linux, it had release day support, and has good support, multimonitor too, in any recent distro. IB to Haswell was a very big jump in terms of video driver quality, on Windows and Linux. Up until I started setting up and supporting Haswell boxes, I was all for using AMD for better Radeon drivers (as it turns out, so was Dell--basically every pre-Haswell Optiplex at work has a Radeon 5450 or 6450 in it 🙂).

IMO, an i3-4130 would be a good CPU. It will be about as fast as the i5 at most things, and not too much slower when it's not as fast. Such a machine will have a nice service long life, too.

You could get a used box, and that would do well, on the cheap, just to have another PC. The issue there is that if you start needing to upgrade it, or replace parts, the cost savings go out the window (DDR2 v. DDR3 RAM prices, adding a video card, adding an SSD, replacing fans, replacing PSUs...). An i3-4130 is going to be an overkill CPU for the most part, but if you start having to wait on a compiler or something, it will be better to have than a Pentium, or even slower CPU, and you can more easily do things like video transcoding, gaming, etc.. Going from i3 to i5 is a much smaller improvement, without something known to chew up the cores and/or cache.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($52.05 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy M Arctic White MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg) <- a shiny case makes it go faster 🙂
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $573.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-22 22:40 EDT-0400)

Not going cheap on the case or SSD. Well, not so cheap, anyway. $600 isn't that hard to do with no Windows nor video card, so I went for one that looks nice, and not too expensive (it's hard to argue with the $30 Corsair PSU, though). The RAM is set to Newegg for the combo. Amazon has the case cheaper, but only by buying it backordered. Cheaper would be fine, but that's probably what I would get, in the same situation.

Note that some deals at Newegg are expiring tomorrow, and others Monday. This is a really good week to make a cheap PC from new parts, but it's almost over.

If you're brand new to Linux, and this class is using Ubuntu, try to get away with Kubuntu. It'll have all the bells and whistles, but you can start right off with Unity gone/optional 🙂. While you need it for the class, once you're done with that, know that Ubuntu has become quite the annoying complex monster, now, and while it used to be a good newbie distro, it's not so great at that these days. On the bright side, plain old Debian has been getting a lot more TLC, so between that, Mageia(sp), PCLinuxOS, Arch (good tinkerer distro, but has no installer), Fedora, and various Slack derivatives, you've got options that may turn out better/easier, in the end (oh, and Mint Debian! Almost forgot about that one!).
 
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It's Linux. He doesn't need an i5 to sit there at the CLI typing apt-get.

OP, just pick up a P4 from the side of the road.
1251211972.or.67133.jpg

Scroll up two posts above yours...

My earlier post was more directly in reference to his budget, not need.

However, it all depends on what he wants to do with it. But quite likely, my second build would be more than adequate for 95% of tasks he'd be doing I suspect.

And I do sense some sarcasm based on your gif there, but nonetheless, I agree, an i5 is not needed. It simply fit his proposed budget.
 
IMO, an i3-4130 would be a good CPU. It will be about as fast as the i5 at most things, and not too much slower when it's not as fast. Such a machine will have a nice service long life, too.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($52.05 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy M Arctic White MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg) <- a shiny case makes it go faster 🙂
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $573.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-22 22:40 EDT-0400)
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Nice build Cerb. typical for you 😎

Some bundling helps cut the cost a bit.


Tiger direct bundle $304. AR
  • Intel® Core&#8482; i3-4330 Dual Core Processor - 3.50 GHz, 3MB L3 Cache - BX80646I34330
  • Asus Intel B85M-G Motherboard - uATX, Socket LGA1150, Intel B85 Express Chipset, 1600MHz DDR3, SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 8-Channel Audio, Gigabit LAN, USB 3.0
  • Patriot Viper Xtreme 8GB Desktop Memory Module - DDR3, 1600MHz, PC3-12800, CL 11, 1.5V - PX38G1600C11
  • ENYLE E-Series ATX Mid Tower Case - 3x5.25" Drive Bays, 4x3.5" Drive Bays, 7xExp Slots, 1xUSB 3.0 Port, 1xUSB 2.0 Port, 2xAudio Ports, - ENY-313
  • Thermaltake TR-500 TR2 ATX Power Supply - 500W, 120mm Fan, Active PFC
SSD : PNY XLR8 240gb for $101.- AR

Monitor: Acer 22' for $100 shipped

TOTAL: $505.-

Cuts about $70.-, retains same core components, couple very minor compromises
 
The case and PSU in that TigerDirect bundle are much worse that the part's in Cerb's list. If you wanted to cut costs, I'd take his build and swap the case to the Cooler Master N200 for $40 AR.
 
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