Thoughts on the new FBI nominee

[Fanatical Meat]

This page from CNN is cool has small video clips of answers and questions.

Look for the Lindsey Graham question about what should someone do if a person contacts them about Russia having dirt on their opponent. I do not support most of Lindsey's idea's especially his Military idea's however he appears to be acting perfectly in this exchange.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/12/polit...dbf60b42f89a@livefyre.com&hubRefSrc=permalink

 

[ivwshane]

The parts I did watch, I didn't see anything of concern. Seems like a fine pick.

 

[Maxima1]

The parts I did watch, I didn't see anything of concern. Seems like a fine pick.

He's not the guy!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/senato...ominee-christopher-wrays-confirmation-hearing

 

[FIVR]

Is this the Ultimate Trump Stooge? Or is he an honorable man who will pursue the destruction of Trump? There are only two options.


Bear with me, but I have to say: I think he may be the Ultimate Trump Stooge. What do I mean by that, you say? I mean he is appears to be competent, answers all the questions with the right words to the right people. He seems affable and cuts a handsome figure. He is so disarming, one thinks "how could this man not find Donald Trump disgusting in every way"...


But wait! People need to look closer. Notice that when pressed, he refuses to outright say Trump is involved. He refuses to do as Lindsay Graham asks, and tell the congress to never accept foreign aid for political gain. He always answers his questions with things that sound like the right approach, but are never specific in any sort of recrimination. If you actually watch the testimony and examine the language, he could dismiss the entire investigation on day one, merely because it wasn't "meritorious". He equivocates on everything.


As the Ultimate Trump Stooge, Wray has the ability to appear competent and trustworthy yet be suborned by Trump (and thus Putin). Wray is now the most powerful foreign intelligence asset of the Russian Federation.

I think he has a lot of people fooled, to include (amazingly) Sen. Franken, but not Lindsay Graham. And not me.

 

[Jhhnn]

Is this the Ultimate Trump Stooge? Or is he an honorable man who will pursue the destruction of Trump? There are only two options.


Bear with me, but I have to say: I think he may be the Ultimate Trump Stooge. What do I mean by that, you say? I mean he is appears to be competent, answers all the questions with the right words to the right people. He seems affable and cuts a handsome figure. He is so disarming, one thinks "how could this man not find Donald Trump disgusting in every way"...


But wait! People need to look closer. Notice that when pressed, he refuses to outright say Trump is involved. He refuses to do as Lindsay Graham asks, and tell the congress to never accept foreign aid for political gain. He always answers his questions with things that sound like the right approach, but are never specific in any sort of recrimination. If you actually watch the testimony and examine the language, he could dismiss the entire investigation on day one, merely because it wasn't "meritorious". He equivocates on everything.


As the Ultimate Trump Stooge, Wray has the ability to appear competent and trustworthy yet be suborned by Trump (and thus Putin). Wray is now the most powerful foreign intelligence asset of the Russian Federation.

I think he has a lot of people fooled, to include (amazingly) Sen. Franken, but not Lindsay Graham. And not me.

Wray worked directly for Comey for 2 years. If Comey likes him, I like him.

 

[FIVR]

So I guess he equivocates on everything because he is just personally a wimp, who cannot confront the truth. Maybe he was one of Comey's underlings. He is easily bullied, and afraid. He can't outright say that Trump is involved or that Donald maybe shouldn't have scheduled that meeting (I mean, come on!) because that would be taking a position somewhat askew what his new boss thinks. Wait, we're back where we started again. He is a quintessential stooge. Perhaps, the ultimate stooge.

 

[FIVR]

Wray worked directly for Comey for 2 years. If Comey likes him, I like him.

When did James Comey become some paragon of virtue? Was it when he put Martha Stewart in prison for trading stocks?


Was it when he tried to ban encryption and put backdoors into all our devices?

Was it when he announced he was investigating Clinton again, days before the election?

Oh wait, Trump fired him. So now he's some F-ing hero to everyone, or something?

Bravo.
*Slow clap*
Bravo James Comey

You shall rise like a phoenix from the ashes of a destroyed America. Your masterstroke is yet to come.

 

[Jhhnn]

When did James Comey become some paragon of virtue? Was it when he put Martha Stewart in prison for trading stocks?


Was it when he tried to ban encryption and put backdoors into all our devices?

Was it when he announced he was investigating Clinton again, days before the election?

Oh wait, Trump fired him. So now he's some F-ing hero to everyone, or something?

Bravo.
*Slow clap*
Bravo James Comey

You shall rise like a phoenix from the ashes of a destroyed America. Your masterstroke is yet to come.

It was when he threatened to resign over torture. Right or wrong, Comey is a stand up lawman, not a weasel sell out. Guys like him scare the shit out of DJT, rightfully so. If he could have been bought he wouldn't have been fired.

 

[FIVR]

It was when he threatened to resign over torture. Right or wrong, Comey is a stand up lawman, not a weasel sell out. Guys like him scare the shit out of DJT, rightfully so. If he could have been bought he wouldn't have been fired.

He never threatened to resign over torture. He threatened to resign when they revised his own torture recommendations to include extra torture (combinations of torture Comey already approved).

In 2005, as Deputy Attorney General, Comey endorsed a memorandum approving the use of 13 enhanced interrogation techniques, including waterboarding[40] and sleep deprivation for up to 180 hours, for use by the CIA when interrogating suspects.[51][52] Comey objected to a second memorandum, drafted by Daniel Levin and signed by Steven G. Bradbury, that these techniques could be used in combination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Comey

Does reading the actual historical accounts of your Hero make you question his virtue? The man is despicable. Did you read about his comments on the Holocaust? lol

 

[Victorian Gray]

He never threatened to resign over torture. He threatened to resign when they revised his own torture recommendations to include extra torture (combinations of torture Comey already approved).


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Comey

Does reading the actual historical accounts of your Hero make you question his virtue? The man is despicable. Did you read about his comments on the Holocaust? lol

Such horrid comments as these?

"The Holocaust was, as I said, the most horrific display in world history of inhumanity. But it was also the most horrific display in world history of our humanity, of our capacity for evil and for moral surrender.

And that second significance is the reason I require every new FBI special agent and intelligence analyst to go to the Holocaust Museum. Naturally, I want them to learn about abuse of authority on a breathtaking scale. But I want them to confront something more painful and more dangerous: I want them to see humanity and what we are capable of.

I want them to see that, although this slaughter was led by sick and evil people, those sick and evil leaders were joined by, and followed by, people who loved their families, took soup to a sick neighbor, went to church and gave to charity.

Good people helped murder millions. And that’s the most frightening lesson of all — that our very humanity made us capable of, even susceptible to, surrendering our individual moral authority to the group, where it can be hijacked by evil. Of being so cowed by those in power. Of convincing ourselves of nearly anything.

In their minds, the murderers and accomplices of Germany, and Poland, and Hungary, and so many, many other places didn’t do something evil. They convinced themselves it was the right thing to do, the thing they had to do. That’s what people do. And that should truly frighten us.

That is why I send our agents and our analysts to the Holocaust Museum. I want them to stare at us and realize our capacity for rationalization and moral surrender. I want them to walk out of that great museum treasuring the constraint and oversight of divided government, the restriction of the rule of law, the binding of a free and vibrant press. I want them to understand that all of this is necessary as a check on us because of the way we are. We must build it, we must know it and we must nurture it now, so that it can save us later. That is the only path to the responsible exercise of power."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...c896d379a32_story.html?utm_term=.fc20109e734b


What a "despicable" person to think such thoughts.

 

[FIVR]

Such horrid comments as these?

"The Holocaust was, as I said, the most horrific display in world history of inhumanity. But it was also the most horrific display in world history of our humanity, of our capacity for evil and for moral surrender.

And that second significance is the reason I require every new FBI special agent and intelligence analyst to go to the Holocaust Museum. Naturally, I want them to learn about abuse of authority on a breathtaking scale. But I want them to confront something more painful and more dangerous: I want them to see humanity and what we are capable of.

I want them to see that, although this slaughter was led by sick and evil people, those sick and evil leaders were joined by, and followed by, people who loved their families, took soup to a sick neighbor, went to church and gave to charity.

Good people helped murder millions. And that’s the most frightening lesson of all — that our very humanity made us capable of, even susceptible to, surrendering our individual moral authority to the group, where it can be hijacked by evil. Of being so cowed by those in power. Of convincing ourselves of nearly anything.

In their minds, the murderers and accomplices of Germany, and Poland, and Hungary, and so many, many other places didn’t do something evil. They convinced themselves it was the right thing to do, the thing they had to do. That’s what people do. And that should truly frighten us.

That is why I send our agents and our analysts to the Holocaust Museum. I want them to stare at us and realize our capacity for rationalization and moral surrender. I want them to walk out of that great museum treasuring the constraint and oversight of divided government, the restriction of the rule of law, the binding of a free and vibrant press. I want them to understand that all of this is necessary as a check on us because of the way we are. We must build it, we must know it and we must nurture it now, so that it can save us later. That is the only path to the responsible exercise of power."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...c896d379a32_story.html?utm_term=.fc20109e734b


What a "despicable" person to think such thoughts.

Yes, despicable. Did you read what you posted? He equates Germany with Poland in responsibility for the holocaust. What responsibility did Poland have that was anywhere near equitable to what the Nazis in Germany did? Poland was conquered by the nazis in 1939. Have you ever read a history book? Has he?



Besides that idiotic and insensitive gaffe, the man committed millions of dollars in Justice department funds to persecute (not prosecute) an elderly woman for insider trading. What possible justification would Comey have for spending tens of millions of dollars pursuing the imprisonment of Martha Stewart? What public good did that serve?

More importantly, has everyone forgotten the ridiculous crusade this man went on to put backdoors in all your devices and make everyone in the US less secure? Who knows what the Russians could have done had Comey gotten his imbecilic luddite wishes!


Comey has done nothing of value except be fired and tell the objective truth about Trump. Neither of those things is deserving of the sudden hero worship he has received from the left.


Oh yeah, and don't forget: If it wasn't for James Comey, Donald Trump very well might not be our president and we may have avoided all of this idiocy. Lives would've been saved (i.e. that marine who died in Yemen). Comey has blood on his hands.

 

[Jhhnn]

He never threatened to resign over torture. He threatened to resign when they revised his own torture recommendations to include extra torture (combinations of torture Comey already approved).


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Comey

Does reading the actual historical accounts of your Hero make you question his virtue? The man is despicable. Did you read about his comments on the Holocaust? lol

The complete passage-

In 2005, as Deputy Attorney General, Comey endorsed a memorandum approving the use of 13 enhanced interrogation techniques, including waterboarding[40] and sleep deprivation for up to 180 hours, for use by the CIA when interrogating suspects.[51][52] Comey objected to a second memorandum, drafted by Daniel Levin and signed by Steven G. Bradbury, that these techniques could be used in combination.[51] Comey was one of the few members of the Bush administration who had tried to prevent or limit the use of torture.[53][54][55]

Comey later stated during his 2013 confirmation hearing that even though his personal opinion was that waterboarding is torture,[56] the United Nations Convention against Torture was "very vague" and difficult to interpret as banning the practice.[42] Even though he considered the practice to be legal at the time,[51] he strongly disagreed with the techniques and opposed implementing them on policy grounds,[52][57] objections that were ultimately overruled by the National Security Council.[58]

 

[FIVR]

Thank you, I forgot to include his pathetic excuse for endorsing and facilitating the actual torture of hundreds of American citizens and foreigners alike. It's interesting that all it takes is somebody to be an "enemy" of Trump, for all sins to be absolved.


Care to comment on any of Comey's other exploits? Have people finally stopped insider trading now that Martha Stewart can't vote? Do you think we should be "allowed" to have encryption as a secure basis for communications, as private citizens? Do you think sexting your gf on whatsapp is aiding terrorism?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Yes, despicable. Did you read what you posted? He equates Germany with Poland in responsibility for the holocaust. What responsibility did Poland have that was anywhere near equitable to what the Nazis in Germany did? Poland was conquered by the nazis in 1939. Have you ever read a history book? Has he?



Besides that idiotic and insensitive gaffe, the man committed millions of dollars in Justice department funds to persecute (not prosecute) an elderly woman for insider trading. What possible justification would Comey have for spending tens of millions of dollars pursuing the imprisonment of Martha Stewart? What public good did that serve?

More importantly, has everyone forgotten the ridiculous crusade this man went on to put backdoors in all your devices and make everyone in the US less secure? Who knows what the Russians could have done had Comey gotten his imbecilic luddite wishes!


Comey has done nothing of value except be fired and tell the objective truth about Trump. Neither of those things is deserving of the sudden hero worship he has received from the left.


Oh yeah, and don't forget: If it wasn't for James Comey, Donald Trump very well might not be our president and we may have avoided all of this idiocy. Lives would've been saved (i.e. that marine who died in Yemen). Comey has blood on his hands.

Poles have been killing Jews as long as anyone else in Europe and, while lots of Poles aided the Jews, there were lots of other Poles were only too happy to help the Nazis kill a bunch more. Deal with it.

 

[FIVR]

Poles have been killing Jews as long as anyone else in Europe and, while lots of Poles aided the Jews there were lots of other Poles were only too happy to help the Nazis kill a bunch more. Deal with it.

You heard it here first, folks. History has now been revised for "extra" accuracy. Poland is just as responsible as Nazi Germany for the Holocaust.


Goddamn poland, why did you do it? Why did you invade?


These are the questions we ask ourselves now approaching 80 years since the tragedy of polish aggression. Never forget #PolishHolocaust

 

[Victorian Gray]

You heard it here first, folks. History has now been revised for "extra" accuracy. Poland is just as responsible as Nazi Germany for the Holocaust.


Goddamn poland, why did you do it? Why did you invade?


These are the questions we ask ourselves now approaching 80 years since the tragedy of polish aggression. Never forget #PolishHolocaust

Who made that claim? Wasn't me and it wasn't Comey so just who made that claim, eh bunky? Who?

 

[Jhhnn]

Thank you, I forgot to include his pathetic excuse for endorsing and facilitating the actual torture of hundreds of American citizens and foreigners alike. It's interesting that all it takes is somebody to be an "enemy" of Trump, for all sins to be absolved.


Care to comment on any of Comey's other exploits? Have people finally stopped insider trading now that Martha Stewart can't vote? Do you think we should be "allowed" to have encryption as a secure basis for communications, as private citizens? Do you think sexting your gf on whatsapp is aiding terrorism?

What hundreds of American citizens?

Martha Stewart was prosecuted because nobody lies to the FBI & gets away with it if they can help it. She tried to cover for her broker.

Prosecutors argued that Stewart sold her ImClone stock only after Bacanovic told his assistant to tip her off that ImClone founder Sam Waksal was trying to sell. Stewart and Bacanovic had told investigators they had an arrangement to sell once the stock fell to $60.

Bacanovic was broker to both Stewart and Waksal, who is serving a seven-year prison term after pleading guilty to securities fraud over his family's sale of ImClone shares.

http://money.cnn.com/2004/03/05/news/companies/martha_verdict/

Had she just fessed up to being tipped off, played innocent & showed contrition it never would have been what it was.

" Yes, my broker called me & said Waksal was selling so I should, too. I trusted him. I didn't realize he told me to do something illegal."