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SlitheryDee

Like I said in the initial post, I've never been wild about country music, but I can appreciate some of it. For instance, I do like some Garth Brooks, and I think Johnny Cash's "Boy Named Sue" is a riot. It's the newer stuff that's just disturbingly bad. I don't think that's limited to country, however. Lately it seems like bad music is coming from every genre. Does anyone else think today's punk is awful as well, not to mention the "bounce yo bootie" club rap that's saturating the airwaves.
 

shimsham

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: shimsham
its no better or worse than any other genre. some good, some bad.

I disagree. Its definetely the worst.

I like the OP's statement, it would have been doing the world a favor if those darn nagged terrorists bombed that there nashville center instead of that thar WTC.

I think there is a reason why only people, in one small part (the south) of one country like this kind of music. You can't find good music in a genre where all of the people creating it are the same. From a personality standpoint all the way to what kind of car they drive (F-150).

Of course thats also the way I feel about rap, they discourage anyone who isn't black from making the music and they wonder why it seems so stagnant and gets downright intollerable to listen to.

you could plug any genre into your post and it would be just as valid.

Oh really. OK, then since your obviously just naive or not reading my post entirely.

Name another genre, in the entire world, that is supposed to be a popular genre and yet is only made in one part of one country. Lets take rock for instance. Rock is made in every conutry in the world, or at least anyone of them you can name off hand that isn't a 3rd world country.

AC/DC - Australia and was eveident from the sound of the band
Coldplay and countless others - England
Lacuna Coil - Italy

I could go on and on and on forever. With different cultures creating different kinds of Rock, it gives the genre flavor. The 3 bands I listed above all sound completely different and original for their time, thats because of the cultural and ethnic diversity in the song and lyric writing.

Even if there are people somewhere in another country dumb enough to like country music, and try making it themself. They're still using the recipe that makes it so repulsive to 90% of the worlds population.

Rap is the same too, but not near as bad as country. Even stupid English people who try to rap act like they come out of Compton and live the same life the street thugs in the US do. Even in countries like England where guns are outlawed, you have people talking about pulling a 9 and capping fools. HAHhaha the irony in that.

Or lets take Electronica, as a whole or you can narrow it down by genre. Some of the best Techno came out of Germany, of course it was invented there. Then fools started messing with it in other countries and you get the likes of Ritchie Hawtin, aka Plasticman who is 100% American. Its also evident to anyone who knows Techno that Ritchie is the man, and introduced tons of new idea's to the Techno genre. He changed it because he came at it from a different country, with a different ethnic and cultural background. These things inspire new lines of thought.

Country has nothing like that and never will.


naive is thinking that anyone in any genre or country is doing anything original. its all based on what came before it.

anyway, music taste is like assholes. you choose to put what you like on a pedestal, i choose the view them all just as equally sucky. are you saying there are no german country artists? or japanese? if i obsessed over music like others do, and cared enough to waste 10 mins trying to prove someone on atot that my opinion is right and theirs is wrong, im sure i could find some country artist in some other country that put a different sound into the twang that isnt done in tennessee.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: shimsham
its no better or worse than any other genre. some good, some bad.

I disagree. Its definetely the worst.

I like the OP's statement, it would have been doing the world a favor if those darn nagged terrorists bombed that there nashville center instead of that thar WTC.

I think there is a reason why only people, in one small part (the south) of one country like this kind of music. You can't find good music in a genre where all of the people creating it are the same. From a personality standpoint all the way to what kind of car they drive (F-150).

Of course thats also the way I feel about rap, they discourage anyone who isn't black from making the music and they wonder why it seems so stagnant and gets downright intollerable to listen to.

I'd rather listen to country music for hours on end than hear any 50cent song. And I *hate* country music.

But say what you want, some country music artists actually have talent and music/songwriting abilities.

Oh, and country music is *not* only listened to in the south. Much like marketed and produced rap is listened to by rich preppy kids, so is marketed and produced country liked by you damn yankees and libs. I've seen "line-dancing" crazes go through LA and NY.

"Real" rap is enjoyed by thugs who grew up in the street, much like "real" country is played in hole-in-the-wall bars in the sticks and enjoyed by rednecks and cowboys who'd kick your ass if you aked him to "do-ce-do."

All genuine music is good, regardless of genre. It's the fake, pre-packaged and marketed pop that is the bane of real music aficionados.
 

SacrosanctFiend

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Ask the majority of people in Nashville if they like country and you'll get a resounding "Hell no!" That being said, I can't wait until the day I can get out of this damn state.
 

MisterCornell

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Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Ask the majority of people in Nashville if they like country and you'll get a resounding "Hell no!" That being said, I can't wait until the day I can get out of this damn state.

I find that hard to believe. Nashville is the Mecca of country music. I would imagine there are more than a handful of country music fans there.
 

SacrosanctFiend

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Originally posted by: MisterCornell
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Ask the majority of people in Nashville if they like country and you'll get a resounding "Hell no!" That being said, I can't wait until the day I can get out of this damn state.

I find that hard to believe. Nashville is the Mecca of country music. I would imagine there are more than a handful of country music fans there.

That's great. I've lived in Nashville all my life, barring 4 years for college. I've yet to find someone who actually lived in Nashville (not Hendersonville, Goodletsville, or other surrounding hick towns) that actually could stand country music. I'm not saying there aren't, but they aren't the majority.

Edit: I know a country music exec who can't stand the music. Rather ironic, but money can make you suffer through the worst of it.
 

Gurck

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I don't listen to any of what I consider country (the only genre I really don't like), but I love Skynyrd, the Allman Bros & Jimmy Buffet, which some would consider country, so I guess it depends on individual definition of what is & isn't country.
 
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SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Gurck
I don't listen to any of what I consider country (the only genre I really don't like), but I love Skynyrd, the Allman Bros & Jimmy Buffet, which some would consider country, so I guess it depends on individual definition of what is & isn't country.


I call skynyrd and the Allman brothers southern rock, but I definitely consider Jimmy Buffet to be country. I'm not a big parrot head but I think "Cheeseburger in Paradise" is hilarious.
 

SacrosanctFiend

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Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
Originally posted by: Gurck
I don't listen to any of what I consider country (the only genre I really don't like), but I love Skynyrd, the Allman Bros & Jimmy Buffet, which some would consider country, so I guess it depends on individual definition of what is & isn't country.


I call skynyrd and the Allman brothers southern rock, but I definitely consider Jimmy Buffet to be country. I'm not a big parrot head but I think "Cheeseburger in Paradise" is hilarious.

The closest Buffet comes to Country is Country-Rock, none of his other styles are country at all.
 
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SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: dandruff

I agree ... but only if u r limiting definition of Country to just music from nashville and the hicksville ... but if you broaden it to include country FOLK ... then u will find real good examples all over the developed world ... some of the irish country music is the best ...

What I had in mind when I posted this topic was American country, but anything from other countries that fits the same template (bendy steel guitar, fiddle, rhythmic uncomplicated drum lines, strong emphasis on love and relationships, strong religious appeal, the term "beloved patriot tonk", etc.) would be equally bad.
 

dderidex

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Originally posted by: smc13
Country isn't only made in Nashville. there are canadian country singers, california country singers, texas country singers. Heck, the Van Zandts made a country album.

I think you'd find that Townes Van Zandt, at least, was from Texas. And his style is very much 'folk' and less 'country'.

Folk music is great - and all countries have it. Indeed, US "folk" music ISN'T, it's all imported from European countries with immigrants in decades past.

'County', though....that's something different. Sort of a modernization of folk music.

EDIT TO ADD: Folk music HAS seen something of a revival. You can pick up several modern CDs with great recordings of older folk tunes - the 'Songcatcher' soundtrack and 'Songcatcher II' (sequel to the soundtrack - LOL), 'O, Sister!' and 'O, Sister! 2', the recent 'Cold Mountain' soundtrack (a very, VERY good soundtrack, btw!), etc.

Originally posted by: shimsham
its no better or worse than any other genre. some good, some bad.

I'd rephrase that.

"It's not better or worse than any other genre. 90% of it is crap."

As, after all, 90% of EVERYTHING is crap.

There are some REALLY good country singers. Martina McBride is easily one of best vocalists in pop music. George Strait and Clint Black are both quite good singers, and Clint Black is a VERY talented songwriter.

Still, 90% of everything is crap, and 'country' music does not escape that fact.