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Chess

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I have been talking to YoYo about this the past couple weeks.

I wanted to get everyones opinion on this.


Here are rough estimates...

Length: 220 inches = 18.3 feet

Width : 129 inches = 10.75 feet wide

I do have a French Door, and a window a swell. I can give more specifics where they are at when I get home if needed.

Ceilings are 99 inches

BTW I didn't do the engineering of this basement, the previous home owner, got someone to finish the basement..

There is no drop ceiling which could really suck for hanging a projector and running cables, into the network/av closet"
 

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iirc, viewing distance will be about 14-15 feet?

I don't remember your budget.
 

vshah

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how well will you be able to control light form that door and window? if you can, or if you'll primarily be using it at night, projector all the way.
 

Chess

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iirc, viewing distance will be about 14-15 feet?

I don't remember your budget.

y0y0 yeah you are right... 13-15 feet away from the front wall..

I am going to hopefully do some visio drawings soon, I am just slammed with work the next solid two weeks
 

Chess

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how well will you be able to control light form that door and window? if you can, or if you'll primarily be using it at night, projector all the way.


Right now it does a decent job with me controlling the light... That is one consider.. I do have a window near that door too to the outside, and i have blinds up.. I would be using it mostly at night, and obviously for gatherings when people come over. I am going to pain the room a dark color...

I cant ever remember hanging a projector from a non drop ceiling before...
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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I believe I mentioned this earlier, but if the back of the room will not be a path for walking traffic, you can stand / shelf mount a projector in the back of the room.
 

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Well with $4-5k, I'd say you'd be in good shape with

~$2000 on projector
~$200 on screen
~$500 on receiver
~$500 on subwoofer
~$1000 on 5 speakers
~$200 on miscellaneous stuff

= $4400-ish

If that budget sounds about right to you, then the top ~$2000 projectors seem to be the Panasonic AE4000U and the Epson 8500UB.
 

Chess

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I guess I need to figure out how I am going to mount it on the ceiling if I go that route...

Is it worth dropping the projector down to 1500 and adding 500 to the receiver to have a better receiver autoswitching hdmi etc ?
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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I guess I need to figure out how I am going to mount it on the ceiling if I go that route...

Is it worth dropping the projector down to 1500 and adding 500 to the receiver to have a better receiver autoswitching hdmi etc ?

A good $500 receiver will be able to output all your sources to a single HDMI cable for a projector.

$500 more in the projector budget will give you better black levels. (I'm assuming an Epson 8100 would be a $1500 projector alternative).

A $1000 receiver will be better than a $500 receiver from the same company, but a $500 receiver would have to be missing specific features you wanted for it to be worth it to sacrifice the projector budget in my opinion.
 

Chess

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A good $500 receiver will be able to output all your sources to a single HDMI cable for a projector.

$500 more in the projector budget will give you better black levels. (I'm assuming an Epson 8100 would be a $1500 projector alternative).

A $1000 receiver will be better than a $500 receiver from the same company, but a $500 receiver would have to be missing specific features you wanted for it to be worth it to sacrifice the projector budget in my opinion.

Makes total sense....

I really dont have a budget persay, but I am not going to go over the top when I dont need to.

But I do not and will not cheap out on the speakers, because I want good sound obviously...
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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YOYO:

ONKYO TX-NR807

Whatcha think of this ?

I'm sure there's a huge thread over on AVSforum where you can see if there are any quirks with it.

I have an 876 which is working just fine. If the 807 doesn't have any issues with it, its feature set looks good. I don't know what the best price is on it though. You'd have to compare it to the 607, 707, and 1007 from Onkyo for pricing to figure out what the best deal is.

Denon is probably the closest competitor for also offering Audyssey for a similar pricerange with other similar features.

If you're not in a rush, I'd suggest figuring out which models from these companies meet your needs and then buying when there's a good deal on one of those models.
 

Chess

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I'm sure there's a huge thread over on AVSforum where you can see if there are any quirks with it.

I have an 876 which is working just fine. If the 807 doesn't have any issues with it, its feature set looks good. I don't know what the best price is on it though. You'd have to compare it to the 607, 707, and 1007 from Onkyo for pricing to figure out what the best deal is.

Denon is probably the closest competitor for also offering Audyssey for a similar pricerange with other similar features.

If you're not in a rush, I'd suggest figuring out which models from these companies meet your needs and then buying when there's a good deal on one of those models.

Ive been over at AVS, just not a big fan of the sitemap and layout of that place

I am in NO rush at all
 

vshah

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why are you so set on mounting it on the ceiling? shelf/wall is much much easier, and easier to get it down should you need to for any reason. i know the panasonic has great lens shift and zoom for easy placement

edit: of course you will get more light output placing the projector closer to the screen, which a ceiling mount could accomplish.
 

Chess

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why are you so set on mounting it on the ceiling? shelf/wall is much much easier, and easier to get it down should you need to for any reason. i know the panasonic has great lens shift and zoom for easy placement

edit: of course you will get more light output placing the projector closer to the screen, which a ceiling mount could accomplish.


With how the room is situated... the ceiling mount would be able the only option to be realistic.... If i put it on a shelf or something like that it would interfere every time someone stood up or walked by etc etc....
 

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I had a similar situation (kinda). I'm in an apartment right now and I didn't want to mount anything on the ceiling, but a whole shelf was a bit of an issue. I did find something that worked great, however. It was designed for small TV's to be mounted on the wall (non flat panels), but its great for projectors.

http://img4.imageshack.us/g/20100221001.jpg/

Just a few big bolts into a wall stud, the thing is solid as anything. I have one in silver that I'm not using, if you're interested. Just pay for shipping and its yours :p.
 

Chess

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Chap:

interesting solution... I am not sure Where I would put it.. I am assuming in the far rear of where I would be sitting... I am just curious on how I could get it to work. Usually if your pointing the projector from above you can angle it down. Does that mount allow you to move and adjust the projector and what not ? let me know. I may use it as a possible solution
 

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The three projectors I mentioned above all have very good lens shift options. You'll be able to put the projector pretty much anywhere on the back wall pointing straight ahead and then use lens shift to get the screen where you want it.
 

Chess

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The three projectors I mentioned above all have very good lens shift options. You'll be able to put the projector pretty much anywhere on the back wall pointing straight ahead and then use lens shift to get the screen where you want it.

y0y0

Roger that... Is there one you would suggest over the other though ? I will research both
 

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I believe I mentioned this earlier, but if the back of the room will not be a path for walking traffic, you can stand / shelf mount a projector in the back of the room.

That would be a really long throw, and if brightness is an issue he may want to try to ceiling mount to keep it closer to the screen.
 

Chess

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After consulting and looking the room over again, its going to make sense to go with a Wall Mounted TV...

Now for suggestions....