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Thought: would apple buy nvidia?

With AMD they'd have x86 CPU+GPU chips for low power and low end, discrete CPUs and GPUs for the high end, that would make more sense.
 
Their market is rapidly shrinking, they have to tag themselves onto mobile gadget products. These days it's not about cutting edge performance, it's about head, power draw, efficiency.
 
Astrallite said:
Their market is rapidly shrinking, they have to tag themselves onto mobile gadget products. These days it's not about cutting edge performance, it's about head, power draw, efficiency.
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Apple is making money hand over fist. Shrinking market?
OCGuy said:
An AMD buyout is more likely, especially if BD doesnt deliver marketshare in addition to performance.
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What are you basing this on? (Of course, what are we basing this entire thread on. LOL)





I think with only 2 major players in the GPU field and 2 in the CPU field, even though one player is in both fields, the FTC would look long and hard at any buy out of any of the three companies. Unless it was do or die, the company was going to go out of business if it didn't happen, the Feds wouldn't allow the market competition to shrink. Apple buying either one of these companies would do that, IMO. Seeing as how they like to keep their stuff proprietary.

Besides, Apple buying these components from someone else is working fine for them. They look at what's the best deal for them and buy it. Why compete with the likes of AMD, Intel, or nVidia when you can just take advantage of their places in the market?
 
bunnyfubbles said:
they'd have to outbid intel first
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As of today, May 19, 2011:

INTC market cap: $124.81 billion

AAPL market cap: $313.72 billion

Also consider:

INTC: As of March 27, 2011: $4.188 billion in cash and cash equivalents, with another $3.536 billion in short-term investments.

AAPL: As of March 26, 2011: $15.978 billion in cash and cash equivalents, with another $13.256 billion in short-term marketable securities.

http://intc.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=950123-11-47498
http://investor.apple.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=1193125-11-104388&CIK=320193

AAPL is the largest tech company in the world now, in case you haven't heard.
 
blastingcap said:
AAPL is the largest tech company in the world now, in case you haven't heard.
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OT a bit, but this is mind boggling. It's amusing to me because Microsoft basically stole Apple's OS concepts (which Apple robbed Xerox of) and greatly outdid Apple for so many years. But Jobs got his "revenge" on Microsoft to say the least, Apple is a market leader in several devices that Microsoft has utterly failed to compete in. Microsoft for far too long thought all they needed was Windows, quite a big blunder.

On topic, I don't see Apple buying Nvidia, they don't need to. They can sit back and let Intel, AMD, and Nvidia slog it out, and reap the benefits and use whatever tech best suits them.
 
AnandThenMan said:
On topic, I don't see Apple buying Nvidia, they don't need to. They can sit back and let Intel, AMD, and Nvidia slog it out, and reap the benefits and use whatever tech best suits them.
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Yeah, this is how I see it playing out as well.

Btw, these are the biggest U.S. IT companies by market capitalization in $billions, along with a few other companies and countries that I threw in to give you a better sense of scale:

2010 GDP of U.S. 14720 (est.)
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2010 GDP of Canada 1335 (est.)
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Exxon Mobil 408
2010 GDP of Belgium 397 (est.)
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2010 GDP of Switzerland 327 (est.)
Apple 314
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General Electric 212
Microsoft 208.42
IBM 208.04
Wal-Mart 194
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Google 171
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Intel 125
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Qualcomm 96
Cisco 92
Siemens 86
HP 78
TSMC (makes Nvidia and AMD GPUs) 70
Kraft Foods 62
Boeing 58
Facebook 50 (implicitly estimated by Goldman Sachs, if it were a public company)
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2010 GDP of Luxembourg 41 (est.)
Oracle 35
Nintendo 33
Sony 27
Hitachi 26
Toshiba 22
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Activision Blizzard 13.39
2010 GDP of Haiti 11.53 (est.)
Fujitsu 10.70
Nvidia 10.58
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Electronic Arts 7.95
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AMD 5.94
2010 GDP of Somalia 5.90 (est.)


Source: finance.google.com and other such sites, calculating market cap as of May 19, 2011. Also the CIA World Factbook.
 
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Unlikely, CPU+GPU on one die is the future for 99% of Apple users and AMD/Intel can deliver better than Nvidia.
 
gevorg said:
Unlikely, CPU+GPU on one die is the future for 99% of Apple users and AMD/Intel can deliver better than Nvidia.
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CPU+GPU is no more than future than CPU+IGP is.
(hint: APU is just PR for IGP)

PR has created expectations reality cannot cash in.
 
Apple and Nvidia are two of the douchiest companies out there. If Apple bought Nvidia the world would end.
 
Actually if Jobs dies then Jen-Hsun Huang is in some ways an obvious replacement. Apple would merge with nvidia, JHH gets CEO, apple gets the nvidia hardware and software expertise - ARM soc's, gpu compute, etc are all of interest to apple.

No one would buy AMD - all that means is you become a weak x86 competitor with Intel, a company that no one wants to go up against in x86 due to Intel's foundry advantages and massive budget.
 
blastingcap said:
Yeah, this is how I see it playing out as well.

Btw, these are the biggest U.S. IT companies by market capitalization in $billions, along with a few other companies and countries that I threw in to give you a better sense of scale:

2010 GDP of U.S. 14720 (est.)
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.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
2010 GDP of Canada 1335 (est.)
.
.
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Exxon Mobil 408
2010 GDP of Belgium 397 (est.)
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2010 GDP of Switzerland 327 (est.)
Apple 314
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.
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.
General Electric 212
Microsoft 208.42
IBM 208.04
Wal-Mart 194
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Google 171
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Intel 125
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Qualcomm 96
Cisco 92
Siemens 86
HP 78
TSMC (makes Nvidia and AMD GPUs) 70
Kraft Foods 62
Boeing 58
Facebook 50 (implicitly estimated by Goldman Sachs, if it were a public company)
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2010 GDP of Luxembourg 41 (est.)
Oracle 35
Nintendo 33
Sony 27
Hitachi 26
Toshiba 22
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Activision Blizzard 13.39
2010 GDP of Haiti 11.53 (est.)
Fujitsu 10.70
Nvidia 10.58
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Electronic Arts 7.95
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AMD 5.94
2010 GDP of Somalia 5.90 (est.)


Source: finance.google.com and other such sites, calculating market cap as of May 19, 2011. Also the CIA World Factbook.
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Wow. very informative post, thanks...

Really AMD only at 5,94 is surprise to me, i knew they are far smaller company than Intel, but seriously never expected such a big difference. Under these circumstances i would say that MAD is doing very very well.

And Qualcomm almost on par with Intel, what? I heard about that company 1 year ago for the first time... ARM is clearly on the rise...

And LOL at Apple and Facebook, they numbers just show whats wrong with this world, people just love to buy overpriced stuff and post their s***t on the site with the worst navigation ever...

Anyway i do not think Apple would want to buy any HW company, not to mention Nvidia is in the moment more oriented on the professional market, while Apple sells mostly consumer stuff. They already have their ARM and they do not need Nvidias GPUs in their tablets and mac airs... and i reckon mac pros or only a small part of their business, not big enough to make them do such a big investment.
 
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blastingcap said:
Yeah, this is how I see it playing out as well.

Btw, these are the biggest U.S. IT companies by market capitalization in $billions, along with a few other companies and countries that I threw in to give you a better sense of scale:

2010 GDP of U.S. 14720 (est.)
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AMD 5.94
2010 GDP of Somalia 5.90 (est.)


Source: finance.google.com and other such sites, calculating market cap as of May 19, 2011. Also the CIA World Factbook.
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You really can't make a meaningful comparison here by rank-sorting the GDP of nations and the market-cap of business.

That's like comparing the annual salary of your brother to the net asset value of yourself...two totally different metrics.

If you want to compare nations to businesses in terms of the business's market cap then you need to be showing the net value of the nation, not its annual GDP.

Or vice versa, if you want to compare businesses to a nation's GDP then you need to be comparing the annual revenue of the business, not its market-cap.
 
I don't think Apple would lock themselves into chip development like that. Why expose yourself to the risk of low level design when you can cherry pick whatever fits the package you're developing?
 
I really hope that nvidia stays its own company. They're better than intel (okay, but not as good nvidia), AMD (products straight-up suck), and Apple (products suck, poor labor standards).
 
Anarchist420 said:
I really hope that nvidia stays its own company. They're better than intel (okay, but not as good nvidia), AMD (products straight-up suck), and Apple (products suck, poor labor standards).
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Wow....how do AMD products straight up suck?I've been using their products since December 2008 and I have no complaints.
 
Idontcare said:
You really can't make a meaningful comparison here by rank-sorting the GDP of nations and the market-cap of business.

That's like comparing the annual salary of your brother to the net asset value of yourself...two totally different metrics.

If you want to compare nations to businesses in terms of the business's market cap then you need to be showing the net value of the nation, not its annual GDP.

Or vice versa, if you want to compare businesses to a nation's GDP then you need to be comparing the annual revenue of the business, not its market-cap.
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I know the difference, thanks. They are not meant to be direct analogs, else I would have used company size by revenue. (There is no "net value of a nation" metric easily available.) It does say something to say that the financial market values AMD more than an entire year's economic activity by Somalia, for instance.

Btw, I did in fact start a list of highest-valed tech companies by revenue, but I felt it was not a good list because many of those companies were big on revenue and smaller on profits. Ingram Micro for instance. Apple's market cap is so huge because it's huge PROFITABLE not because it has more employees and revenues than everyone else. And profits are what matter at the end of the day.
 
LOL would apple buy Nvidia?

Nvidia :
Avg Vol: 20,036,000

Apple:
Avg Vol: 14,549,000

Although apple could split and double the shares and still be higher, apple has less volume.

If they did buy nvidia, there stocks would split so bad that it wouldnt be a smart move for apple.

Financially apple would pull a AMD with ATI and be in trouble, yet not have the resources AMD had to pull themselves out.
 
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