Thought i was getting Marshmallow.

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I'm not happy hearing that the Note 3 isn't getting Marshmallow. Fuck Android if they're going to keep this shitty update that is going to cause serious problems because they neglected security for years and simply don't care.

And on top of it some Google shithead is comparing Windows 10 to XP (WTF?) when Android has been like a shitty limited mobile version of XP for the past 5 years, complete with atrocious security.

http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/03/matias-duarte-windows-10/
 

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Platypus

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I'm not happy hearing that the Note 3 isn't getting Marshmallow. Fuck Android if they're going to keep this shitty update that is going to cause serious problems because they neglected security for years and simply don't care.

And on top of it some Google shithead is comparing Windows 10 to XP (WTF?) when Android has been like a shitty limited mobile version of XP for the past 5 years, complete with atrocious security.

http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/03/matias-duarte-windows-10/

It's not Google's fault that Samsung isn't releasing an update. Google is certainly not blameless for the security problems Android has, but it's a very nuanced problem that goes beyond simply blaming a single party for the state of security on the platform. Samsung is far more to blame in this case for tons of reasons.

I could go on and on about this topic as it's a huge part of my job... but I'll spare you unless you're actually interested.
 

Amol S.

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Wait, now marshmallow, first ice cream, then butterscotch, then jelly bean, now marshmallow? Any way whom ever has marshmallow, can they upload a video of how the easter egg on it looks like.

To view the Easter egg on every android, go to device info, keep tapping on the os version number, eventually you will go onto the Easter egg.
 

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DesiPower

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6/5 dont ship with M, for that you need the newer 6P/5X, that's the marketing strategy, even OTA is not available yet. However you can flash/upgrade it yourself, rom is available on developers.google.com for free. The battery life in itself makes it totally worth upgrading.
 

Platypus

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6/5 dont ship with M, for that you need the newer 6P/5X, that's the marketing strategy, even OTA is not available yet. However you can flash/upgrade it yourself, rom is available on developers.google.com for free. The battery life in itself makes it totally worth upgrading.

http://www.androidcentral.com/android-60-marshmallow-ota-links-are-starting-arrive-here-they-are (posted oct 18th)

Google supports all their devices for 18 months historically. The OTA is rolled out in stages, it's not available for everyone immediately. This is how they've always released updates.
 
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DesiPower

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http://www.androidcentral.com/android-60-marshmallow-ota-links-are-starting-arrive-here-they-are (posted oct 18th)

Google supports all their devices for 18 months historically. The OTA is rolled out in stages, it's not available for everyone immediately. This is how they've always released updates.

Good info, but I upgraded the 1st week it came out with the help of some fine folks in MD&G, I was impatient! btw "fi" is working great for me, I had TMo to begin with...
 

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6/5 dont ship with M, for that you need the newer 6P/5X, that's the marketing strategy, even OTA is not available yet. However you can flash/upgrade it yourself, rom is available on developers.google.com for free. The battery life in itself makes it totally worth upgrading.

Yeah, doze by itself has left me quite happy with Marshmallow. And, it may be little, I do like when you highlight stuff it just says 'copy|paste' etc instead of the symbols that I could never remember.
 

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Yeah, doze by itself has left me quite happy with Marshmallow. And, it may be little, I do like when you highlight stuff it just says 'copy|paste' etc instead of the symbols that I could never remember.

Finally! I hope my ancient One M7 gets it.
 
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It's not Google's fault that Samsung isn't releasing an update. Google is certainly not blameless for the security problems Android has, but it's a very nuanced problem that goes beyond simply blaming a single party for the state of security on the platform. Samsung is far more to blame in this case for tons of reasons.

I could go on and on about this topic as it's a huge part of my job... but I'll spare you unless you're actually interested.

No it absolutely is Google's fault. They have control and could have and should have mandated update guidelines. Likewise, yes, the carriers fuck things up but again that is Google's fault for letting them do that.

And no Samsung isn't blameless, but Google absolutely could have made this a non-issue years ago but decided they'd rather make Android a total clusterfuck instead.

Plus they've constantly harangued Microsoft over security and yet Android is a total fucking joke in that regard. And we're getting the same bullshit we've gotten with Android updates in general (funny how every other year they say how they've resolved performance and made it smooth?), so anyone expecting there will be anything meaningful actually done to fix this stuff longterm is just delusional at this point. But we'll get a lot of talk about how they totally fixed it with this next major release, just make sure you buy the latest phones so you can enjoy those perks! Until the next update fucks it up again. I'm not an Apple fanboy either, but if it wasn't for them we very probably would not be getting the quality fingerprint sensors (that still took Android what 2 years to get to that level?).

Security should have been a major integral focus in Android development. Google is responsible for the state it is in. Yet we get "no its Samsung's fault!" "no, no it is Verizon/AT&T's!". They're all culpable, but Google needs to take charge and resolve this.

What is also dumb is Microsoft is getting trashed for not playing ball to appease the carriers which would end up putting them in the same position as Google, compromising end user control and security.

Damn! Was really hoping the Note 3 would get it.

This is bullshit.

I know, especially after I believe Google came out and said they were pushing for devices 3 years old to get the latest version. And several of the OEMs said they were working to make that happen. The Note 3 is barely 2 years old.
 

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No it absolutely is Google's fault. They have control and could have and should have mandated update guidelines. Likewise, yes, the carriers fuck things up but again that is Google's fault for letting them do that...

LOL...how is life under the bridge?

-KeithP
 

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No it absolutely is Google's fault. They have control and could have and should have mandated update guidelines. Likewise, yes, the carriers fuck things up but again that is Google's fault for letting them do that.

Agreed. If Microsoft can provide security updates and new OSs for all the PC manufactures, Google should be able to do the same on their mobile phones.
 

ControlD

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Agreed. If Microsoft can provide security updates and new OSs for all the PC manufactures, Google should be able to do the same on their mobile phones.

Google does. They provide monthly security updates for "their" phones. It's great. The problem is, in the rush to get Android into the market Google gave the carriers and OEMs way too much freedom on how they would implement and send out those updates.

If you want an up-to-date Android device, get a Nexus or get a device that you can root/unlock the bootloader. I don't think this is news and at this point when you go buy a shiny new Samsung/LG/etc. phone you know updates are going to be an issue at some point.
 

Rakehellion

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Hey, guys! I hear that iPhones as far back as 4 years old are all able to download the latest version of the operating system. Isn't that cool?
 

CZroe

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I was looking to update my old Note 3 for its new owner a couple weeks ago and saw that the 5.1.1 update would be available soon and the 6.x update had yet to be announced. I saw where a few sites speculated that it wasn't getting it and where Samsung did not include it in the first wave of devices getting the upgrade, but that has never meant that the phone wasn't getting it (the Note II eventually got Kit-Kat, after all).

I think people in this thread are acting silly. Why is everyone suddenly so sure that the Note 3 isn't ever officially getting Android 6.x Marshmallow?