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Thou Shalt Not Steal

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Roflmouth said:
Meanwhile, here are some textbook Muslims:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/03/149-dead-so-far-in-ramadan-attacks/
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LOL, if only you had been born with enough sense of irony to understand what a complete fucktard you look like when you resort to that childish "but Muslims are assholes too!!" excuse to defend Christians being assholes. People who believe in invisible men in the sky are all idiots and Muslim being violent criminals does not mitigate Christians being violent criminals. Try to come up with a more intelligent counter argument which, quite frankly, is ANY counter argument. You couldn't possibly come up with one worse than that.
 
MomentsofSanity said:
They were warned by experts to be very careful on determining origin, verifying documents etc... They received the shipments labelled as "ceramics" and "tiles". They didn't seem to be overly concerned with ensuring these items were legitimately obtained.

The other side of this is the fact that HL potentially contributed to the funding of groups like ISIL who have been marketing stolen artifacts for years.
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Based on what I've read it's really pretty cut and dried that HL knew, or should have known that the artifacts were stolen or looted. They chose to buy them anyway, which is why they have to give up the artifacts and pay a fine. They are clearly in the wrong here.
 
GagHalfrunt said:
LOL, if only you had been born with enough sense of irony to understand what a complete fucktard you look like when you resort to that childish "but Muslims are assholes too!!" excuse to defend Christians being assholes. People who believe in invisible men in the sky are all idiots and Muslim being violent criminals does not mitigate Christians being violent criminals. Try to come up with a more intelligent counter argument which, quite frankly, is ANY counter argument. You couldn't possibly come up with one worse than that.
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Thanks for admitting that this completely destroyed you. But continue assuming anyone takes your hilarious Christian-bashing seriously 🙂
 
Roflmouth said:
Thanks for admitting that this completely destroyed you. But continue assuming anyone takes your hilarious Christian-bashing seriously 🙂
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Bashing? Because it's Christianity? How is it better or righter than any other religion? Yet you have a problem with Muslims? Stop being a zealot long enough to look around you. At best you get to say Christianity is what resonates with you. Opt to be a decent human being first <--- it's what God would want you to do... Promise!
 
Roflmouth said:
Thanks for admitting that this completely destroyed you. But continue assuming anyone takes your hilarious Christian-bashing seriously 🙂
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There's the problem with idiots like you. You assume that telling the truth = bashing. When people notice that Christianity is the worst virus to ever infect mankind they're not anti-Christian, they're merely perceptive.

But tell ya what. When you're praying to your invisible mass murderer in the sky tonight, ask him to get me to stop noticing. See if that works.
 
Double Trouble said:
No need to re-litigate that case, it was already decided (in their favor), they were fully within their rights to not be forced to pay for contraceptives for others. If someone doesn't like that policy, then they don't need to work there. Apparently forcing others to accept your view of what they should pay for is fine, but them not wanting to be forced to pay for contraceptives for people because of their religion is bigoted. That's illogical and hypocritical.



Apparently fighting for their rights (which were affirmed in court) not to have to be forced to pay for contraception for someone else is "forcing their ignorant beliefs on others". I'm sorry, but I might point out to you that your disdain for them shows far more bigotry on your part than theirs. Bigot: One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

Regardless, it has nothing to do with trying to smuggle artifacts out Iraq. Apparently they crossed the line on that and will be facing the consequences for it.
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Paying for employee's contraceptives is bunk. Whether the employees' healthcare service included contraceptives or not the price Hobbylobby paid remained the same.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
I'm torn on this, Hobby Lobby is the Ass Clown of corporations however they walk the walk and talk the talk kind of like Chick-fil-A does. Just not as well.
They were attempting to preserve artifacts that were going to get stolen or damaged, they thought they were using the right channels to obtain them (however I do not know how much vetting they put into this), they have apologized for being wrong.

I'm just not sure.
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You can read the civil complaint (https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/press-release/file/978096/download)

Hobby Lobby's own expert stated that importing the objects incurred considerable risk. They decided not to heed the expert's advice.

They worked with the importer to circumvent customs requirements for import antiquities. They mislabeled the contents, misstated the value, and misstated the origin as Turkey or Israel.

HL also lied about paying the original owner. In fact, the payments were structured in a way that the "original owner" never received payment.

As a side note, I like how the seized antiquities are listed as the defendant in this case.

HL doesn't have clean hands.
 
Younigue said:
My rule of thumb has always been, the loudest voices (verbally or by actions) are the voices I distrust the most. They are so rarely capable of standing up to any amount of scrutiny.
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That goes hand in glove with my wrecked version of the old adage "the weaker your argument is, the more loudly you need to express it." 😉
 
MomentsofSanity said:
Wonder if now Hobby Lobby cashiers will be asking if you want to donate a dollar to ISIS at check out. Cut out the middle man.

Kids can write their name on a little black flag to hang on the wall.
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If not, the idea should at least be put in their suggestion box.
 
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