Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

[her209]

They suck

 

[dakels]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: gopunk


this arises from the fact that professors are hired to DO RESEARCH,

that is one of the biggest problems with colleges today.

no, the biggest problem is that most students just view universities as a necessary step to a job, instead of a higher-learning institution.

I agree with that but thats also what society and business teaches us. Many HR people could give a flying fvck about how much real world and applicable knowledge a person has and pay more attention to some paper degrees. Education is not exactly for the sake of higher learning nowadays. Its for prepatory knowledge in a certain work related field. Most people that learn for the sake of learning don't do it at school. They do it with their free time.

On the subject. I think teaching and doing are 2 different things and one doesn't qualify a person for the other. We all know someone may be amazing at doing something, yet may be horrible in the guidance of others. Then there are teachers who may not have cut it in the work force, or don't want to, yet may be quite good at instructing others. Now of course most cases, it helps greatly to be proficient at both. Being able to apply your knowledge and conveying that knowledge to your students. But anyone, or even anything, can lecture a lesson. Whether it's a really good teacher, or a great lesson guide on a CD rom. It will usually help to have better instruction, but alot has to do with what your student makes of that instruction as well. One would hope the students would eventually surpass the teacher. I'm not defending this teacher though, he may deserve a pink slip, he may not, but I'm not one to call it. All I know about java is that I like a strong pot of it in the morning 😉

And as far as the pay, who cares. Most teachers dont get into teaching for the money.

-just my 2 pennies

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: pyonir
a lot of my Criminal Justice profs in college were retired from their field and very knowledgable about the field and realized that we didn't want to learn nothing but theory from some book.

There were a couple though that had never been outside a classroom and had no clue what the were teaching, other than what it said in the text. It is very frustrating.

 

[xuanman]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: gopunk


this arises from the fact that professors are hired to DO RESEARCH,

that is one of the biggest problems with colleges today.

no, the biggest problem is that most students just view universities as a necessary step to a job, instead of a higher-learning institution.

those students aren't completely unjustified in thinking that way. the bottom line is that higher education is a big business and as consumers of education, students need to expect some return.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

I hope the students that I teach in high school (in 3 years when I get my degree) don't hate me THIS much (I figure they will hate me a bit no matter what happens).

 

[Lager]

Originally posted by: DeathByAnts
I hope the students that I teach in high school (in 3 years when I get my degree) don't hate me THIS much (I figure they will hate me a bit no matter what happens).

What subject will you be teaching?

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: coldcut

Originally posted by: DeathByAnts
I hope the students that I teach in high school (in 3 years when I get my degree) don't hate me THIS much (I figure they will hate me a bit no matter what happens).

What subject will you be teaching?

It's lookin like History

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: gopunk


this arises from the fact that professors are hired to DO RESEARCH,

that is one of the biggest problems with colleges today.

no, the biggest problem is that most students just view universities as a necessary step to a job, instead of a higher-learning institution.

I never said it was THE biggest problem. I said it was one of the biggest problems.

ok i guess i was just taking issue with calling it a problem at all... i mean, basic, fundamental research is what drives our economy in the long run. in my opinion, research is what universities should be doing... because we can't expect corporations or the government to do fund the type of research that is most important... the basic research that is high risk and won't show results for possibly decades to come.

 

[Schadenfreude]

I think it really depends on the type of person you are as well . . . just because someone's a math teacher doesn't mean that everyone'll hate them . . ..