Those insensitive and racist Happy Meals.

OCGuy

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:music: Please mister Custer
I dont wanna go
The beloved patriot's waitin at the door :music:
 

rivan

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Originally posted by: techs
wtf were they thinking with a Custer doll anyway?

Next up: Famous Spanish Inquisitors, followed by a limited series of Serial Killer Bobbleheads.
 

hanoverphist

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im offended that they are offended. custer is part of my family tree, and the lakotas are responsible for killing not only him, but countless other soldiers. *





*lol this is as ridiculous as them getting twisted panties about the doll. if their school system isnt teaching this stuff in their schools, they can change that. tribal schools control their own curriculum, they can teach whatever they want. those who dont learn from history are doomed to repeat it.


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i didnt mean to come off as supporting the toy, i think its a dumb idea overall, not just on the rez. definitely pertinent in a history class, not in a happy meal.
 

AreaCode707

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I'm not the PC police by any means but I think I side with the offended parties on this one. This was unnecessary and could have been avoided by McD's marketing department reading a few Wiki articles and projecting possible public response. It's what they get paid for.

Whose kids get excited about a Custer doll anyway. "I think I'll have a Big Mac... Wait, mom, they have a CUSTER doll! I want a happy meal!"
 

Crono

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Is there some weird movie out now with Custer on a motorcycle that I don't know about? If not, why would anyone consider that as an acceptable toy, and how did that even make it into Happy Meals at McDonald's?
 

Miramonti

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McDonald's including a Custer doll in their Happy Meals???

Wtf, the guy was a terrorist! :p
 

Cogman

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lol, yeah, because every kid that gets a custer doll is instantly going to know that his troops got massacred. Heck, how would you even know it was custer and not some old time prospector?

I sue McDonalds for elevinty billion dollars because they sell toys, and that makes me think the world is going to be filled with fun and games!
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: Crono
Is there some weird movie out now with Custer on a motorcycle that I don't know about? If not, why would anyone consider that as an acceptable toy, and how did that even make it into Happy Meals at McDonald's?

night at the museum smithsonian is the only thing i can think of
 
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I personally don't see the problem here. No one forced the parents to buy the happy meal. My kids go to McDonalds, and the Happy Meal toy is always advertised on posters.

Are the Lakota/ Indians so out of touch that they think McD's did this to spit them? If anything it would teach their children, which by their own admission don't know, about their own history.

I'm sick and tired of hearing about people whine that we need to be sensative to everyone and that they were displaced, blah blah blah. Almost every offshoot of humans has been displaced or has displaced someone else. That's how the world works. Get over it.
The Indians aren't immune to this either as they were continually at war with each other and also killed white women and children.

This is what chaps my hide the most :
He added, ?Most advertising agencies are in the East and the people who put the ads and fliers together have absolutely no idea about the demographics out here in Indian country. We Lakota never see an Indian in the fliers of Kohl?s, J.C. Penney?s or Wal-Mart. They never stop to consider that our Lakota children never see people like themselves in the fliers and ads they send out here, and yet you can go to Chicago or San Francisco and see ads with African-Americans and Asian-Americans.?

Maybe your people should stop living on the reservation and go do something with your lives other than drink firewater and eat McDonalds.

 

Crono

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Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: Crono
Is there some weird movie out now with Custer on a motorcycle that I don't know about? If not, why would anyone consider that as an acceptable toy, and how did that even make it into Happy Meals at McDonald's?

night at the museum smithsonian is the only thing i can think of

Oh ok, that explains it. I think people ought to realize that all historical figures are viewed positively or negatively depending on perspective, particularly military leaders. This looked more like an innocent oversight by McDonald's rather than an attempt to be racist or provoke anger. Besides, action figures are action figures, you can play them to be the good guys or the bad guys. Just get your kids some Native American action figures and have them kick Custer's ass. You can teach history that way, too, instead of just pretending it didn't happen.
 

AreaCode707

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
I personally don't see the problem here. No one forced the parents to buy the happy meal. My kids go to McDonalds, and the Happy Meal toy is always advertised on posters.

Are the Lakota/ Indians so out of touch that they think McD's did this to spit them? If anything it would teach their children, which by their own admission don't know, about their own history.

I'm sick and tired of hearing about people whine that we need to be sensative to everyone and that they were displaced, blah blah blah. Almost every offshoot of humans has been displaced or has displaced someone else. That's how the world works. Get over it.
The Indians aren't immune to this either as they were continually at war with each other and also killed white women and children.

This is what chaps my hide the most :
He added, ?Most advertising agencies are in the East and the people who put the ads and fliers together have absolutely no idea about the demographics out here in Indian country. We Lakota never see an Indian in the fliers of Kohl?s, J.C. Penney?s or Wal-Mart. They never stop to consider that our Lakota children never see people like themselves in the fliers and ads they send out here, and yet you can go to Chicago or San Francisco and see ads with African-Americans and Asian-Americans.?

Maybe your people should stop living on the reservation and go do something with your lives other than drink firewater and eat McDonalds.
Wow, I would have given you a pass on the rest of the rant because it's usually how I feel, but that bolded statement is pretty "us and them."

I think the difference here is that the MOST memorable thing Custer did (in the general American memory) involved war against their race. If it was just a side story in an otherwise remarkable life then I'd be more inclined to sympathize with McD's. Since it's primarily what he's known for though, well, I can see how they view it as a modern-day slight intending to recall a painful point in history for them.
 

badkarma1399

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
I personally don't see the problem here. No one forced the parents to buy the happy meal. My kids go to McDonalds, and the Happy Meal toy is always advertised on posters.

Are the Lakota/ Indians so out of touch that they think McD's did this to spit them? If anything it would teach their children, which by their own admission don't know, about their own history.

I'm sick and tired of hearing about people whine that we need to be sensative to everyone and that they were displaced, blah blah blah. Almost every offshoot of humans has been displaced or has displaced someone else. That's how the world works. Get over it.
The Indians aren't immune to this either as they were continually at war with each other and also killed white women and children.

This is what chaps my hide the most :
He added, ?Most advertising agencies are in the East and the people who put the ads and fliers together have absolutely no idea about the demographics out here in Indian country. We Lakota never see an Indian in the fliers of Kohl?s, J.C. Penney?s or Wal-Mart. They never stop to consider that our Lakota children never see people like themselves in the fliers and ads they send out here, and yet you can go to Chicago or San Francisco and see ads with African-Americans and Asian-Americans.?

Maybe your people should stop living on the reservation and go do something with your lives other than drink firewater and eat McDonalds.
Wow, I would have given you a pass on the rest of the rant because it's usually how I feel, but that bolded statement is pretty "us and them."

I think the difference here is that the MOST memorable thing Custer did (in the general American memory) involved war against their race. If it was just a side story in an otherwise remarkable life then I'd be more inclined to sympathize with McD's. Since it's primarily what he's known for though, well, I can see how they view it as a modern-day slight intending to recall a painful point in history for them.

I'd say it was more painful for Custer than it was for them.

 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
I think the difference here is that the MOST memorable thing Custer did (in the general American memory) involved war against their race. If it was just a side story in an otherwise remarkable life then I'd be more inclined to sympathize with McD's. Since it's primarily what he's known for though, well, I can see how they view it as a modern-day slight intending to recall a painful point in history for them.

I think the most memorable thing he did was get killed by Indians.
 
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Originally posted by: Crono
Is there some weird movie out now with Custer on a motorcycle that I don't know about? If not, why would anyone consider that as an acceptable toy, and how did that even make it into Happy Meals at McDonald's?

Night at the Museum 2. That said, I can understand doing cross-promotions with Happy Meal toys, but they're usually cartoons like Ice Age or Toy Story. Using a movie like Night at the Museum means you will be making toys of actual historical figures, and that just sets you up for stuff like this because virtually every historic figure did something bad to some group at some point. If it's a cartoon, no one can complain, because Woody was never involved in genocide against the Indians. So I have to think McDonald's was pretty damn short-sighted to not see how this promotion could backfire. And I'm further bothered that McDonald's actually distributed toys that said "George Armstrong Custer who lead his troops into the battle at Little Big Horn." Bullshit. He led them. Between the spelling error and the general lapse of common sense, I'm going against McDonald's here.
 

geno

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Originally posted by: techs
wtf were they thinking with a Custer doll anyway?

I guess he's in "Night at the Museum 2" that's coming out / came out...

The story in the OP is vomit-inducing.
 

judasmachine

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I still have relatives that live on Pine Ridge, I bet they're peeved. I'll have to send them an IM. I was taught that Custer and Columbus were practically Anti-Christs as a child, not heroes.