Those crazy Frenchmen: Paris court rules that disabled children can sue doctors for not having aborted them

glenn1

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Last week France's highest appeals court ruled that children with Down syndrome have a legal right never to have been born and could sue doctors that attended the pregnancy. For parents like Forest, the ruling demonstrates a view, which she says is widespread in French society, that a disabled life is not worth living.

The judgment, which confirmed a previous ruling in a similar case, has caused a furor in France, sparking a national debate on a whole host of ethical issues. In their Nov. 28 ruling, three judges said that a doctor had negligently failed to warn an expectant mother that pre-natal scans showed that her baby had the symptoms of Down syndrome. The baby, who was only identified as Lionel, was born in 1995. His mother argued that she would have aborted if she had been given a correct pre-natal diagnosis.

Although most in France agree that the parents should receive financial aid for Lionel's specialized care, many are offended by the nature of the mother's grievance: that her son had been allowed to be born.

The judges in Lionel's case decided that the doctor was "100 percent" liable for the cost of the care needed for the child, since the diagnostic error meant that the mother was not given the chance to abort. The court had already awarded damages of around $100,000, five years earlier. Last week's ruling ordered the sum to be substantially increased. The exact amount is to be announced at the end of January.



 

rufruf44

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Next thing you know, they'll sue their own parent for letting them being born......crazy world...:(
 

Emos

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<< What better way to raise your self esteem then to say, "I should have been aborted." >>


Yeah, those French are so upbeat! :p
 

AaronP

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the term Eurotrash is an oldie, but it is still very apprioate for today.
 

notfred

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While I think the lawsuit was stupid, I actually agree with the mother in many ways. People like that are a burden on society. I see then all the time. SOme 30 year old guy in a wheelchair who's never thought an intelligent thought in his life, with three perfectly healthy, able bodied people wasting thier lives by trying to keep him alive cause he can't feed himself.
I do beleive it would have been better off if he had naver been born. I don't blame it on him, it's not his fault, but the fact remains that he's a burden, and he will never be able to take care of himself.

Call me mean, insensitive, an ass hole, whatever you want. It's the way I feel. I'm glad I wasn't born that way, and I widh those people weren't born that way, but the fact that they're a burden remains.
 

DAM

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hold on, did you all read the article? it says that the court allowed the parents to sue the doctor for not letting them know that their child had down syndrome. That means that the doctor did not give the parents to make a discion on wheter to abort or not. so i see nothing wrong with the court order.






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jjones

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i really don't understand this ruling; there is something very odd about it. i understand, and in my view it is correct, that the mother should have been told about about the down syndrome and she should have a right to sue, given the ambiguous term limit for abortions upon babies with serious defects in france.

but how can you give a baby a right not to be born and exactly how is the baby supposed to exercise that right?

a baby can't exercise the right prior to birth, unless doctors have the baby's power of attorney and start killing all babies with serious birth defects, and after birth, it's a little too late to exercise that right.

i would have to assume that these rights are actually exercisable by the parents. so why didn't they word the ruling that way? what if the baby is born because the parents decided they wanted it but then at some point later, the child decides it really shouldn't have been born. does the child sue both, the doctors and the parents?
 

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This lawsuit is pretty horrible, but I kinda agree with notfred on this one. Not entirely, though. Yes, people with severe disablilities are a burden on society. But if there are people that are strong enough to care for them, that is a wonderful thing. It'll be a pretty sad day for humanity when we turn our backs on people who can't make it on their own.
 

AreaCode707

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<< but how can you give a baby a right not to be born and exactly how is the baby supposed to exercise that right? >>



My first thought here is that if an unborn baby has a right not to be born, as is apparently ruled by these courts, than does that mean they have a right *to be born* as well? Too bad unborn children don't have a way to exercise these 'rights'. I wonder how many aborted babies would sue.

No flaming please, pure speculation.