Thoroughbred how close? and what are the advantages

[WageSlave]

How close are we to the Thoroughbred and what are its advantages over the XP?

 

[AndyHui]

Q2 seems to be the timeframe for the Thoroughbred.

The only advantages are higher clock speeds and lower temperatures....it seems that the only change is a move to the .13 micron process.

No word of any architectural changes or enhancements.

 

[CStroman]

I'm hoping they don't lock them, or just make it as easy to unlock as a TBird.

Thouroughbred and Thunderbird have the same initials.

 

[nippyjun]

They should be cheaper to produce for AMD. They should scale better.

 

[WageSlave]

So I wont miss out on any new features?

 

[MadRat]

If its the last of the K7 cores then expect a fairly straight-forward design. AMD will garner all of the performance they need from the Hammer cores when they come out. The Thoroughbred should be the equivalent to the P!!!-T, mainly too little too late and shifted to the laptop market.

 

[dew042]

<< I'm hoping they don't lock them, or just make it as easy to unlock as a TBird.

Thouroughbred and Thunderbird have the same initials. >>



maybe for short we can call it a TBred?



dew.

 

[Freejack2]

Can we call it bread and butter?
Even if they do nothing but shrink the xp to .13 micron and call it a Tbred, they will be able to ramp this chip way the heck up and keep on giving Intel a run for their money. If this thing is unlockable even like the xp's are, it will have some serious overclocking potential. Say it comes out in a 2200+ speed (1800mhz) I'm willing to bet people will get it up to low to mid 2000's in mhz. This chip will probably keep AMD competing with Intel well into the 3ghz speeds of the p4.

 

[MadRat]

If it ramps 25% more speed than the XP it will be profitable. However, it will be far more profitable in the laptop market early on because of its lower thermal disipation over the Athlon4, the lower voltage draw at all performance levels while using advanced PowerNOW!, and just because of plain raw performance.

 

[Athlon4all]

Yea, we would love for T-Bred to have 512 L2 cache like NW, and have a 166fsb but all evidence points to that it's just a die shrink which is fine none the less. T-bred should compete with NW easily until Hammer comes at the end of the year. All roadmaps for NW point to that the highest we'll see by Q4'02 is 2.53GHz and a 1.9GHz T-Bred should compete easily with a 2.53 NW. Not to mention in the mobile arena as well, since NW it seems will be coming into the mobile market as well very soon.

 

[Swanny]

<< If its the last of the K7 cores then expect a fairly straight-forward design. >>



Barton will be coming out after Thoroughbred.

 

[x86]

<< How close are we to the Thoroughbred and what are its advantages over the XP? >>



There are no architectural enhancements whatsoever except for the 130 nm process.